777236ER
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I-Drive

Sat Aug 10, 2002 8:19 am

Well, finally a BMW thread has started.

Anyway, has anyone actually driven the 7 with i-Drive? What's it like? Superficially, it doesn't seem that different. From what I've seen and read just imagine the gear stick being circular and the on board computer controls being circular too. I can't see the big revolution BMW is on about. I dunno, maybe it's very different to drive.

Anyone know?
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racko
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RE: I-Drive

Sat Aug 10, 2002 9:41 am

Well, I haven't driven the new 7er, but I tested the I-Drive at the dealer. Actually, I-Drive is only used for the things you use not that often, there are still other buttons for the functions you use very often (e.g. on the steering wheel) while you drive, like rising or lowering the volume of the radio. And of course you have voice control for some functions, say "Play CD" and it plays your cd. With the I-Drive you have vertical menus, push the i-drive into the direction of the menu you want, press it, then select/change the things you want by pushing into their direction and press it again. The display of the I-Drive is also in a very good position, very high, so that you can look at it easily.

Here's a picture of one of those menus:



I think having I-Drive is better than having hundreds of different buttons.
The worst thing about I-Drive is that you don't have a gear stick anymore, just that damn automatic-stick behind the steering wheel  Sad
 
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RE: I-Drive

Sat Aug 10, 2002 9:42 am

So the I-Drive is like the 777236ER of men.....NO STICK.

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RE: I-Drive

Sat Aug 10, 2002 10:47 am

Ok 777236ER, since you like to post this stuff in our American car threads, this is for you:



















I hope you enjoyed it.  Smile

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RE: I-Drive

Sat Aug 10, 2002 1:14 pm

I used to work for BMW north america--I've got friends who still work there--there is a 24/7 call center devoted to supporting just iDrive. It's quite a bear I heard--just a bit too confusing for the average individual to deal with. Future BMW products will have less complex iDrive systems.
 
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RE: I-Drive

Sat Aug 10, 2002 5:38 pm

I-Drive is probably too complex for the older people, they are used to just get instructed which button they have to press for the functions they need regularly, and don't use the rest of the features of a car. Still I don't understand how they don't get the point of Idrive. Just push/turn the I-Drive in the direction of your menu, press it, select the function, press it again and you're done. It doesn't get much easier than that.
 
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RE: I-Drive

Sat Aug 10, 2002 7:55 pm

KROC, it may be stick-less, but it has one giant knob.

Racko, I think I can alter your statement by saying that I-Drive is probably too complex for the average American Big grin. Just look at what they like to drive Sad
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RE: I-Drive

Sat Aug 10, 2002 11:18 pm

Nothing better than a driver talking on their cell phone speeding down the highway and navigating through a menu on a screen on the dashboard while they adjust the settings of the climate control. Like I've said before, the ultimate driving machine is now the ultimate interfacing machine. How sad.
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racko
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RE: I-Drive

Sun Aug 11, 2002 12:24 am

You can rise/lower the temperature of the climate control on the steering wheel or via voice activation, and you have of course a free-speech system for your cell phone. Again, the I-Drive is not for the functions you use all the time, but rather to control some settings you change just once in a while.
 
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RE: I-Drive

Sun Aug 11, 2002 12:33 am

And I still don't know why some people think this car is so ugly, just compare it with the crap nwa posted...


And that's just a simple photo and not a manufacturer picture.

 
planelover
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RE: I-Drive

Mon Aug 12, 2002 11:40 am

From what I've seen and read just imagine the gear stick being circular and the on board computer controls being circular too.

If I remember correctly the gear stick is much like a turn signal switch, located on the right side of the steering column. I don't think it was exactly like this, but here is an example of what the operation of the gear selection appeared to me: drive was in the upper position, park was in the center position, and reverse was in the lower position. Neurtral was a button on the end of the stock. The I-control button is circular mounted on the arm rest.
That was the setup last time I saw a picture and read an article about it, so maybe it has been changed since then.

I think I read somewhere that the new 5 series may have I-drive as an option.

Anyways, from what I've seen, I-drive looks really cool. I agree though, it may be harder for older folks to operate. Cool gadget though.

Well, have fun.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: I-Drive

Mon Aug 12, 2002 11:24 pm

That's right planelover

The 2004 5 series will have a simplified versiosn of the Idrive aboard. As for the system in its current itteration, it's a little intimidating at first, but most of the stuff on it becomes very intuitive after you get used to it.

Captinagomes,

You are right too, but I would guess that most auto manufactorers will head in somewhere like that direction in the next 15 years or so.
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RE: I-Drive

Tue Aug 13, 2002 12:25 am

I liked the headline of a Mercedes advertisement in the local paper at one point which read:

"I-Drive? No, you drive!"

On a side note, BMW's have been very reliable cars lately, but I've heard some bad stories about the new 7 series already. They are pushing the boundaries too far with respect to comlexity and as a result, user-friendliness and reliability suffer. Hardly what I would consider a high-end experience.
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racko
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RE: I-Drive

Tue Aug 13, 2002 12:31 am

The problem is that they used Windows CE for it. They should have programmed a system or base it on linux...

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