yka
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Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 6:58 pm

After spending some time in Poland I noticed that almost everyone here drives cars with standard transmitions. This is the total oppisite of north america where almost everyone dirves automatics. We happen to have a renault 19 with an autmatic gearbox but it was bought in in germany, where I recon there are more automatics. But wherever you look in Europe the standard seems to dominate.

Personaly I preffer automatics, though its also fun to jump in a standard once in a while but I wouldn't want one for every day use.

Which do you perfer?
 
f.pier
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 7:45 pm

Standard of course, I don't like the automatic, it reduces the driving pleasure!!!

I have 2 cars, both standard, 5 gears, and I'm happy of them, very happy!!

I would never buy an automatic car.
 
racko
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 8:27 pm

Manual of course. I hate it if the car shifts for me, I want to have as much control as possible.
 
Staffan
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 8:39 pm

Manual is a pain when you sit in the slow moving queues that occur twice every day, AKA rushhour traffic. These are the times you really want an automatic.
However when driving generally I prefer a manual.

Staffan
 
KRIC777
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 9:35 pm

Manual transmission all the way  Smile

...No better way to suck the fun out of a vehicle than to equip it with a slushbox. Anything that makes people pay even LESS attention while driving than they already do is a bad thing in my book.
 
POSITIVE RATE
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 9:36 pm

I prefer manual! It's too boring driving an auto and takes the plaesure out of the driving(especially in a sports car) 5 speed manual is the only way to go. Performance wise manuals are also slightly quicker- about 0.5-1 sec faster than the same type car auto due to the manual having more torque.
 
portcolumbus
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 9:38 pm

Automatic because it's just plain easier. Manual of course when I start driving semis.
 
NJTurnpike
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 9:54 pm

Manual. If you're going to drive, _drive_  Big grin

Want a comprimise? Buy something with a Tiptronic gearbox and let it take the strain for you in city driving. Then let rip on the open road.
 
Klaus
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 10:01 pm

Manual, of course!  Big thumbs up
 
victech
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sat Aug 10, 2002 10:08 pm

I'm paranoid: I prefer the auto for my daily driving--it gives me a better chance to put both hands on the wheel and focus on the situation around me. The less I have to worry about the car's internals, the more I can concentrate on the idiot that's about to rear-end me.

The manual is great if you want to have fun, though...
 
racko
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sun Aug 11, 2002 12:21 am

The best solution is probably BMWs SMG - you can either shift on the steering wheel, by pulling/pushing the gear stick without a clutch-pedal, or let it shift automatically.
 
flyf15
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sun Aug 11, 2002 1:40 am

Definately manual. I can't stand the lack of control in automatics.
 
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sun Aug 11, 2002 1:57 am



Gotta love SMG.
Your bone's got a little machine
 
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RayChuang
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sun Aug 11, 2002 1:00 pm

Actually, with computer controls, the line between manual and automatic transmissions is starting to blur.

The Ferrari F1 system first found on the F355 sports car is the beginning of the development of transmissions that look like manual transmissions physically but have automatic clutch engagement. This even allows full automatic operation; the F1 and BMW's SMG system works this way also.

As for automatics, CVT systems are finally capable of handling far more power than in the past. Audi's Multitronic CVT that uses a drive chain instead of a metal belt can handle 220 bhp easily; Nissan has produced a CVT based on series of toroidal rollers in a variable-viscosity fluid first on Cedric/Gloria models for the Japanese market (the Infiniti M45, which is based on the Nissan Cedric/Gloria, may have this transmission after the first model year in the USA), and now on the Nissan Murano SUV will definitely have this new CVT.

Yes, the CVT does take some getting used to due to the slipping clutch feel, but it makes it up by being incredibly smooth during acceleration, even more so than the advanced five-speed conventional automatics found on high-end luxury cars nowadays.
 
VonRichtofen
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sun Aug 11, 2002 1:33 pm

How long were you in Poland for? I haven't seen you in the forums for ages.

My truck is Manual, I'm not sure if my next one will be manual or automatic.
 
IB6400
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sun Aug 11, 2002 4:27 pm

Hi!

Manual... 5 speed... And can't wait to drive a Volkswagen Jetta 1.8T with 6 speeds...!

Manuals aren't that fun in peak hours, though...

Joaquín  Smile
Mexico City
Yo soy yo más mis circunstancias - J. Ortega y Gasset
 
yka
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Sun Aug 11, 2002 6:29 pm

VonRichtofen, I've been in Poland since december. My computer maninbored fuged up so I cant get any modem to work so I cant use the net from home. The only net acess I have is from an internet cafe which is why i haven't been much at a.net. I'm going to kamloops in october to finish some classes though and I'll try for my ATPL.

p.s It's nice to see some of you old users still around.
 
B777
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Mon Aug 12, 2002 10:41 am

I prefer automatic for daily drives simply because there is one thing less to worry about and I can focus my attention of what's going on around me (very important because I live in a state with one of the highest auto accidents in the US). Plus I haven't yet driven a standard (lame I know but I grew up on automatics).

However, for high performance cars, I would prefer manual. Guess I just have to wait till I have the money for a Ferrari (I wish) before I learn to drive a standard tranny.

 
chepos
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Mon Aug 12, 2002 10:52 am

Automatic all the way.
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flyf15
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Mon Aug 12, 2002 10:58 am

For all those who prefer automatics, I just must ask if you're proficient at driving a manual, let alone have ever driven one.
 
mls515
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Mon Aug 12, 2002 11:39 am

When I'm driving this big bad boy I'm thankfull for it's automatic transmission, especially while fighting selfish single-occupant cars in rush hour traffic.



Out of circumstance, I've never had to drive a manual car on a regular basis. It's pretty sloppy and nasty, but I can get one going though.
 
TWAL1011
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Mon Aug 12, 2002 12:42 pm

For power and control, go with the manual.

If you commute to work, go with the automatic.

I'm a commuter and a bracket drag racer. I prefer the automatic for ease of commute and consistency at the track.
 
Mr AirNZ
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RE: Automatic Or Standard(manual) Transmition?

Mon Aug 12, 2002 3:12 pm

Manual of-course. Driving an automatic, there's just nothing to do.

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