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Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Mon Aug 12, 2002 12:28 am

Iran has handed over 16 al-Qaeda fighters to Saudi Arabia in an apparent attempt to co-operate with the US war on terror, the Saudi Foreign Minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal has said.

Iran detained the militants who sought refuge there after fleeing from Afghanistan Prince Saud told The Washington Post newspaper

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2186142.stm

A postive step in the middle east, its the right way to go, hand over terrorists, dont back them.
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Mon Aug 12, 2002 8:05 am

So not quite a fully paid-up member of the 'Axis Of Evil' then.
Iran is a complex place, undergoing transition, slowly, sometimes with steps backwards, but increasingly unlikely to revert to the paranoid, tyrannical theorocracy of 20 years ago, unless the US acts very clumsily towards them.
While I understand the political reasons why Bush made that speech in January, and the emotions and concerns behind it, I fear those words may come back to haunt him.
A great shame that so much genuine goodwill has been lost since then, the restraint and then targeted action after Sept 11th was good statesmanship, but maybe in future that speech will be identified as the point the War On Terrorism started to unravel, I hope not.
 
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Mon Aug 12, 2002 9:33 am

Iran is a complex place, undergoing transition, slowly, sometimes with steps backwards, but increasingly unlikely to revert to the paranoid, tyrannical theorocracy of 20 years ago, unless the US acts very clumsily towards them.

This is what I meant when I told 777236ER that his idea that the U.S. is more responsible for the world was not smart-this is just another "blame the U.S." paragraph.

While I understand the political reasons why Bush made that speech in January, and the emotions and concerns behind it, I fear those words may come back to haunt him.

ROTFL. How will it "haunt" him? If Iran starts cooperating with the international community in this effort, then the words may have had a desired effect
 
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Mon Aug 12, 2002 10:59 pm

Iran should be helped to reform, the reformers in iran need to be backed.
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Tue Aug 13, 2002 1:42 am

It will haunt Bush if this obsession with Iraq leads to the pressure coming off Al-Queda allowing them to stage another US attack, and/or massive civilian casualties in Iraq breeds a whole new, bigger generation of potential terrorists.
 
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Tue Aug 13, 2002 1:52 am

Bush will be served his words and his ass for lunch. This handing over so called terrorists is only a media blitz in an attempt to kiss Mr Bush's ass. Although I don't agree with the methods used (hijacked airliners), the US by and large got what it deserved. Rather than fight these clandestine and bullshit "wars on terror", the US should do what it should have done long ago: dump billions and billions of dollars in cash, food, goods and services into the Middle Eastern Bloc so that those people can enjoy the same standard of living as us here in the US and Europe and Japan and Israel. I mean how would you feel if someone kept holding you back with sanctions and embargoes and keeping your land locked in the stone age while spoon feeding your enemy-in this case-Israel? you'd lash out like an agitated rattle snake too. Israel is like driving up in a Rolls Royce eating caviar by the spoonful-on skid row while the homeless are rummaging through garbage pails looking for scraps to subsist on. That's how the Middle East sees us. The US and the West is the Rolls Royce and Iran, Iraq et al is the deprived homeless. Wouldn't you fireball the Rolls the first chance you got? If we want to end this blood bath, lets bring the middle east to our level. We don't have to stop aid to Israel, but lets share some wealth with Syria, Lebanon, Iran, and so on.
 
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Wed Aug 14, 2002 7:18 am

Please don't use the words USA, International comunity and cooperation in the same sentance. It just doesn't work.
 
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Wed Aug 14, 2002 8:08 am

Wow Matt D, that's certainly food for thought!
I had you down as an isolationist, not someone who would advocate a 21st Century Marshall Plan!
Wonder if I'm the only one surprised?
But I've a feeling that suggesting the attacks in September were a form of 'blowback' from foreign policy, is going to upset more than a few people here, that's for sure.
Personally, I think it's a lot more complex than that, but hey, no one can say you are not thinking out of the box.
Still, that's the ultimate purpose of these forums.
 
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Wed Aug 14, 2002 8:12 am

Hey Matt D, could you email me at the address in my profile please?
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:04 am

MATT D:

Why don't you just say what you really feel "I agree with the hijackers methods". Also your comment "the US got what it deserved" should be "my country got what it deserved". The last I checked there was no one named "US" in the world.

Using you logic the world should be overrun with terrorists from sub-saharan Africa. The main reason being of course that part of the world is much worse condition than the "Middle East Bloc". If you think throwing money at a problem will solve it you are mistaken. How much has the "US" distributed in economic aid in the world over the past 50 years? Don't forget, OBL is/was a multi-millionaire. He didn't grow up in refugee camps, he grew up in wealth and privilege. The terrorists who hijacked those planes came from middle class families.

Iran and Iraq are sitting on billions of dollars worth of oil. To call then "deprived homeless" is a bit much. Actually none of the terrorists involved in the attack were from Iran or Iraq.
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Wed Aug 14, 2002 5:09 pm

I like some of your statements Matt D.

I find this whole US (I never write "our" when it comes to american affairs/ to be fully honest I cannot and will not say anything nearing "I'm proud to be American" b/c I am really not proud at all, many times even ashamed) war on terrorism to be ridiculous.
 
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RE: Iran Hands Over Al-Qaeda Terrorists

Thu Aug 15, 2002 10:56 am

Many people feel that the war on terrorism is not what it should be because it's not making major headlines every night. During the Gulf War, there were updates of battles, victories, casualties every night. And since the US and our allies were so decisive in the Guf War, not hearing about victories is a disappointment. Don't forget people, we are fighting an enemy that hides. I for one think it's working. Maybe not remarkably, but working.

MattD,

I agree with your overall statement, but saying 3,000+ people deserved getting murdered for something they had no decision making on whatsoever is a bit harsh. Otherwise, like I said, I agree. Bush including Iran in the "Axis of evil" was shooting himself in the foot. Iran turning over Al-Queda members, allowing the U.S. to use thier territory in the event of a military emergency, even expressing simpathies for 9/11: that sure doesn't sound like actions of an "evil axis".
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