Rai
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Why Live In Israel?

Tue Aug 13, 2002 2:54 am

High taxes, security issues, worldwide scorn, shaky economy, not as much opportunity as other western countries, to name a few drawbacks. Those are enough reasons for me not to live there.

A friend of mine, who's Jewish, lived there for about a year. This was before the current mess of a situation. He liked the culture and the weather, but said it wasn't worth living there unless you truly believed in a Jewish state. His assessment was based on economic factors alone, disregarding security concerns, which weren't that bad at the time.

Based on his conclusion, it seems to me that the only reason people would live there would be to live in a Jewish state. To me, that just isn't good enough of a reason to haul up and move, like many Jews in North America, Russia and Europe seem to be doing.

Take this as you like; I'm making an honest judgment. Nowhere do I mention anything about Israel vs. Palestine. I really have no opinion on the issue one way or the other. If anyone makes this into an argument, it’s others, not me.
 
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RE: Why Live In Israel?

Tue Aug 13, 2002 3:23 am

how high are the taxes over there? How about restrictions (such as registration, VAT, etc..), on the ownership of automobiles?
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Rai
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RE: Why Live In Israel?

Tue Aug 13, 2002 3:42 am

Check this site out. It has a good synopsis of the Israeli tax code. Tax code is more similar to Europe than to the U.S. And people say that Israel is an extention of the U.S.? Seems more like a European society to me.
 
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RE: Why Live In Israel?

Tue Aug 13, 2002 3:55 am

The german embassy in Israel reports a drastic increase in israelis requesting german passports during the past months.

There is a special regulation that formerly german holocaust survivors or their offspring cannot be denied a german passport. And it seems that during the recent escalation, more and more israelis are looking for a way out, even if only as a precaution. Others use Germany as a mere transit base to the European Union.

Security concerns and economic factors appear to be the main factors.
 
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RE: Why Live In Israel?

Tue Aug 13, 2002 4:07 am

Why not? every country has its problems,look at the palestinains...you cant convience them not to live in the west bank and gaza and you cant convience israelis to leave israel.

a number of jews are acually moving to israel in support of their brothers so its swings and roundabouts.

ps-i pray this doesnt tun into an israel vs palestine thread.
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RE: Why Live In Israel?

Tue Aug 13, 2002 4:31 am

Right now, security and economic factors obviously deter people from moving to Israel. DUH. It's just like Argentina...the economy's a mess, and there's a not unnoticeable amount of civil unrest. You don't see anyone flocking to Buenos Aires, do you?

But let's imagine for a minute that we're back in the 1990s, when there was no intifada, and the economy was booming. Much of Israel quite honestly resembled a cross between Europe and America. And even if tax codes were like those in Europe, Israel would still have been an attractive place to live. I mean, you don't see an exodus from Belgium if the economy there is in good shape.

In other words, while Israel is not the most attractive place in the world to live, there are still many attractive things about it, at least when the economy's doing well. It's a first-world country, after all. If the economic impetus is there, you'll see more people moving to Israel. Right now it isn't, so that's the biggest reason (probably even bigger than security issues) why you see a lot of people leaving. When the economy picks up again, the trend will reverse.

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RE: Why Live In Israel?

Tue Aug 13, 2002 4:37 am

You are right.

The security situation is shitty. Everytime I get on a bus, I don't know if it will be the last time I get on a bus.

The taxes are high and the economy is very bad but I will stay here until the day I die for 1 reason.

6 million jews (including my great-grandparents on both sides) died in the holocaust to give us the right to freely walk with pride as jews.

Not to mention the solders who died (and are still dieing) to protect Israel.

We will stay here because, and I am being honest. HOME SWEET HOME

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