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MLB Baseball-RIP Born 1876 Died Aug 30 2002

Fri Aug 30, 2002 12:34 pm

It died after the last strike IMHO... This is when I stopped watching it.

This is sick.
 
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RE: MLB Baseball-RIP Born 1876 Died Aug 30 2002

Fri Aug 30, 2002 12:43 pm

I think baseball was grieviously injured by the 1994 strike, but I don't think it died the-it may die now, no matter if there is a deal or there's a strike. ESPN is reporting that the Players Association told members tonight in a teleconference that progress is being made, and a deal could be struck. But a deal, as it looks now, will not save the game, and will not institute the drastic overhauls needed to save the game from the greedy owners and players. Yet at the same time, a strike, if it happens, could drag out for more than a season, I believe, and if that's the case, baseball, when it comes back, will look nothing like MLB as it now exists.

Either way, neither side seems to grasp the fact that they're destroying a great game.
 
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RE: MLB Baseball-RIP Born 1876 Died Aug 30 2002

Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:05 pm

I think MLB is totally forgetting that baseball has pretty much been left in the dust when it comes to favorite sports in the USA.

Right now, the #1 sports pastime has become American football at the high school, college and NFL levels. Fans have extraordinary passion for their favorite high school, college and pro teams that far exceeds that of baseball.

Secondly, one form of auto racing--NASCAR Winston Cup--has really zoomed up in popularity to rival the major sports in popularity. The new television contracts has given the sport massively more exposure, and the sport has truly become an advertiser's dream come true (since each team has its car painted in a livery designed by the main commercial sponsor of the car).

Finally, the 12-34 crowd isn't much into baseball nowadays. They have a lot more interest in football or basketball, or in the new class of extreme sports such as rollerblading, skateboarding, street luge, snowboarding (the stuff you see on ESPN's X-Games).

Small wonder why baseball is in trouble.
 
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RE: MLB Baseball-RIP Born 1876 Died Aug 30 2002

Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:44 pm

The trouble is that the owners and players don't fear any serious reprisals from the fans. Sure, people will be angry and some will stay away from the ballparks or choose not to watch the games on TV, but eventually the fans will return (especially if their home team is doing well). A conscious, coordinated effort by the fans, in which virtually everyone stayed away from the games for an extended amount of time, now THAT would send a message.

Personally, I don't care if they strike. Football is upon us (and no, I don't mean that yawnfest that the Euros call "football").  Big thumbs up
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RE: MLB Baseball-RIP Born 1876 Died Aug 30 2002

Fri Aug 30, 2002 2:27 pm

So, the other day, I'm reading and posting in another thread about Baseball and the upcoming strike. I made some remarks about having a minor-league team nearby, how inexpensive and fun it was to go watch a game played by people who's number one priority isn't how many millions of dollars they make.

Just within the last few days, the stadium owners and team owners got into a money argument over insurance payments, etc. The owner has forfeited the remainder of the season and put the team up for sale. There goes my baseball fix.

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Fri Aug 30, 2002 6:33 pm

I love baseball, but I am bitter this time. Both sides are to blame, but the owners had to take a hard line stance. The players have always won, and always gotten their way. If that continued, they would suck every last dollar out of baseball. I will go back to my beloved game soon enough, as will most people in time. I'm really glad I have Met's at Philly's tickets for next weekend. Fuckers.
 
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Fri Aug 30, 2002 8:40 pm

I stopped watching baseball after the last strike which was really a shame. I have so many great memories of going to the old County Stadium and watching Molitor, Yount and Higuera play for the Brewers, every weekend during the summer my parents would take me and a couple of friends to the games. I always thought that if I ever had kids I would do the same with them

......that has all changed! Now in the new Miller Park, ticket prices increased by 50% along with the prices of sodas, nachos, hot dogs and everything else and season ticket prices are a joke and no where near affordable for the average Joe. I would much rather take my kids to see an MLS, NBA or NHL game instead, although NBA and NHL tickets are getting very pricey as well. Professional sports in general nead a reality check and they need to get back to the basics of playing the game for the love of the sport, not the money!!!

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RE: MLB Baseball-RIP Born 1876 Died Aug 30 2002

Fri Aug 30, 2002 8:42 pm

Teddy Higuera played long enough for you to have a great memory of him???

lol  Big grin
 
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Fri Aug 30, 2002 8:48 pm

Higuera! I haven't heard that name in a while. He was a great young pitcher, but if I'm not mistaken, injuries wrecked his career. The story of many a young pitcher.

Hey, he remembers Teddy Higuera, I still remember Cleveland's 2nd to last Rookie of The Year-Joe Charboneau.  Big thumbs up
 
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Fri Aug 30, 2002 9:02 pm

whether no strike, or post-strike, it's time for a concerted, well-organized sustained nation-wide boycott.....to bring the owners and the players to their knees.

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RE: MLB Baseball-RIP Born 1876 Died Aug 30 2002

Fri Aug 30, 2002 9:47 pm

Higuera was such a great memory because the only thing I remember is that the Brewers paid so much money for him that every time he threw a ball or the other team got a hit every single person in the stands (that season average attendance was about 7,000 per game) would talk about what a worthless overpriced piece of crap pitcher he was.

Compared to today he made half as much money and he still played better than a lot of these guys now.


Another note on the Brewers......

The movie Major League was originally supposed to be about the Brewers and was filmed in Milwaukee County Stadium (used in the movie as the Indians home field) but since the Brewers were playing better by the time they started filming they decided to make it about the Indians who were breaking all of the MLB's lowest attendance records and had the worst record in the majors for three years straight. If you look closely at the people in the stands you will see a lot of University of Wisconsin, Green Bay packers and Brewers shirts.

I also remember going to Cleveland for a Brewers vs. Indians series at the giant old Municipal Stadium, the second game was on a beautiful Saturday afternoon and brought in a whopping attendance of................550!!!!!! The stadium was huge and it felt like we were the only ones watching the game...BTW we paid $6 for upper grandstand seats, try that at Jacobs Field!  Smile
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RE: MLB Baseball-RIP Born 1876 Died Aug 30 2002

Fri Aug 30, 2002 9:58 pm

LOL NUAir. I was a Brewers guy back when they sucked, lol. One of the guys I was stationed with, was from Wisconsin, and is a huge Brewer fan. I used to dog him all the time about Higuera. 1 - 20 win season, big contract, every other start...injured. Even in 2002 I mess with him about that, lol. I guess he can say Mo Vaughn and shut me up though now.....
 
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RE: MLB Baseball-RIP Born 1876 Died Aug 30 2002

Sun Sep 01, 2002 9:22 am

2 words-
Minor League

that's where its at. I've been to a Paw Sox (pawtucket red sox) game and it was much different than the MLB games i've seen, in a good way.

the yankees have been killing baseball with their merchandise and their winning.

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