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GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 9:57 am

Is the GM Suburban available in a Diesel yet? I heard something a while ago that they were going to have it available with the Duramax Diesel (engine on select Sierra and Silverado pick-ups) to compete with Ford's Excursion which is available with the Ford Powerstroke Diesel engine (engine on F-250 and F-350) or gasoline engine.

Anyone know if this is true?

If so, when will it be available or is it available already?

I'm not a big fan of big giant SUVs, but I was just curious to see if GM will counter Ford.

And yes, I do know that Ford will be discontinueing the Excursion after 2004.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sat Aug 31, 2002 12:14 pm

My friend has a 2000 Suburban with the 6.5 diesel engine, and loves it. I remember reading that the Duramax was to be offered with the Suburban but derated to 250 hp, because the Aliston transmission wouldn't fit in the Suburban. However, it has been a really long time, and am now wondering if GM still plans on bringing it out. All I know is that the 6.5 Subs hold their value exceedingly well, which shows that there is some demand for this type of vehicle.
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RE: GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sun Sep 01, 2002 11:31 am

BA-

GM was having trouble fitting the Allison trans. underneath the Yukon/Suburban, so that's why there's no diesel.

GM 2500 Suburbans with the 8.1L V8 can tow up to 12,000 pounds, two tons more than an Excursion, with this type of towing power from a big V8, the only advantage of the diesel is slightly better fuel mileage.
 
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RE: GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 9:16 am

The diesel engine was availible in the suburbans from 1977 till 1996.
GM used a 6.2 liter V8, then a 6.5 liter V8 and now they have this new Duramax diesel engine.

300 horsepower at 3100 rpm and 520 lb.-ft. of torque at 1800 rpm.

I don't have MPG figures but I am sure it's close to 20 mpg.

Gas engines don't even come close to this.
I think all full size trucks should come standard with diesel engines.

BA, the duramax diesel Suburbans will be out in January 2003.  Smile
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RE: GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 10:34 am

Wow, that's great news.

If only more regular cars had diesel.

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RE: GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 12:18 pm

Superfly, GM sold Subs with diesels beyond 95, as my friend has a 2000 Suburban 6.5 Turbodiesel.
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RE: GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 12:25 pm

Thanks Captaingomes.

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RE: GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 1:13 pm

Funny how I have never seen a Diesel Suburban. All the Suburbans I've seen have the quiet gasoline engine sound and not the diesel engine sound.

Or is this Suburban Diesel extremely quiet?

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RE: GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sat Sep 07, 2002 1:52 pm

BA:
Most idiots that buy these things get the el cheapo version with the smallest availible engine and 2X4 drive.

People that actually NEED these SUVs go for the diesel and or 4X4 option.

Usually you have to go with the heavy duty version (3500) to get the diesel engine. Yuppies that go out and buy these to haul around there kids only go for looks and get the 1500, lighter weight version that dosen't come with diesel.

Most lots have more gas version than diesel versions.
Also, the salesmen just wants to make a sale and get them off the lot.
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RE: GM Suburban Available In A Diesel Yet?

Sun Sep 08, 2002 3:27 am

You can tell the diesel versions of the old style Suburban, made until 2000 or so, and the pickups of that era too, because they have openings in the bumpers, right by the license plates. Kind of hard to visualize right now, but if you see it, you'll know what I mean. And no, the 6.5 isn't quiet at all, sounds like a school bus, but the older 6.2's were actually very quiet.
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