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Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 2:31 am

Take note, this is how not to get your message across to people, and have them take you seriously.

http://www.canada.com/montreal/story.asp?id={130F079E-2467-412F-B895-620A0F557305}

An absolute disgusting display.

"I am happy today," said Ayad Qasem, an electrical-engineering student at Concordia. "We have proved that we can achieve our national goals if we are united - even if it is something symbolic like a lecture by the war criminal Netanyahu."

All they proved is that they are violent, dangerous, and criminals themselves. I sure hope they study up on the principles of a "peaceful protest" while earning they're degrees. Maybe then someone with listen to them.

Some people better get expelled over this.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 2:32 am

That should be spelled "Netanyahu". Sorry for the mistake
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 2:55 am

I think its rather disgusting that they had to resort to violence like this. This really shines a great light on the Arab community in Canada.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 3:55 am

Frankly, Netanyahu should never have been permitted to speak. Other racist agitators such as Louis Farrakhan and Georg Haider are prohibited from entering the UK because of their views ... the same should apply to all of the senior members of Likud.
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 4:17 am

reflects very poorly on the arab canadian community acting like thugs. condonsing censorship now are we neil? lovely!

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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:01 am

whats sauce for the goose sas23, surely then those who supports the terror attacks such as the islamic group in north london should also be banned?

i agree, ben net isnt a man who i like.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:10 am

Go Canada! - absolutely, anyone who incites racial hatred whether directed at the Anglo Saxons, Scots, Jews, Arabs, Africans, Indians, Pakistanis, Kosovans, Eskimoes or whatever - should not be allowed to stir up such sentiments. It's protected in the States - which I really think is taking things too far; at least here in the UK there are legal sanctions against it.
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:21 am

If that was true, SAS then TNNH would be the first on..............he is very forthcoming with his hatred for all things Arab. JUst like the things going on in the world reflects very poorly on Jews around the world........making Jews look like thugs.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 7:42 am

Not at all David B well except maybe just to you. Most Jews, such as myself have nothing to do with Israeli policy, what Israel does as a political body is seperate from the religion that is Judaism.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:01 am

"the war criminal Netanyahu" ha ha ha...and they're all dancing in the streets in support for non-criminal Saddam...!

In the conceptions of most Arabs today, Israelis or Jews -they use the word "Jews" in Arabic- is synonymous with "war criminal". Curiously though, Arab and Islamic political leaders seem to be more specialised in this field (Syria, Irak, Iran, Sudan, Algeria...to name just a few); and even more curiously, the bloodiest these leaders are, the more popular they get in the "Arab world"...


anyone who incites racial hatred

give us some quotations of Netanyahu's racial hatred incitement...and in the meantime you could also list ALL his war crimes; that would be interesting to illustrate this empty discussion...
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:32 am

Jesus Christ people!! Why are you taking this thread completely off topic? Stop with the pointing of fingers, and the insults to other users. Absolutely ridiculous, your comment was completely out of place David B. All TNNH was saying is that the Arab's who participated in the riots and the violence were indeed acting like thugs, and it reflects very poorly on the rest of the Arab community in Canada.

This discussion is completely empty thanks to the pointless comments of SAS and David B. Let's stick to the topic.

By the way, whatever happened to free speech? As much as I don't like certain people's views here in the States, I respect their right to voice them. And they respect my right to peacefully protest their voice. But when it turns into violence, it takes their original intent, turns it into squat, and instead makes the rioters look like fools.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:06 am

SAS23, I bet if it were Yassar Arafat or Louis Farrahkhan was speaking you'd be the first one in the auditorium. Because they go with your beliefs, the Jews are wrong 100% of the time and they are the reason for all the ills in the world. Ben Netenyahu is an Israeli who wants to protect Israeli interests and he is totally justified in calling the PLO an "Islamic Terrorist Organization." This really looks good for Concordia, what a joke, I bet that kid was in the country on a Canadian visa, I respect free speech, but I respect all of it. Not just from one point view or the other. If this kid doesnt like the fact that some people are pro-Netanyahu in the world, maybe he should return to his cave in the middle east.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:17 am

whatever none of us need to say anything. its all been said already by people far more important than us.

the arabs riot in canada and tear apart a university and

Rector Frederick Lowy says:
"..shameful.."

Mayor Gérald Tremblay:
"..a bad day for democracy..."

"....and make sure it never happens again."

but

Arab Ayad Qasem:
"...I am happy today..."

Looks like the Arabs screwed up real bad!  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:17 am

I'm quite familiar with the Arab-Canadian community as I had a lot of friends in it when I was living in Canada. This does not surprise me at all. They are more insular that the community here in the States, if that's even possible. A lot of them seem to be “activists” too. A Muslim friend of mine in Canada told me that a lot Arabs up there were celebrating after the 9-11 terrorist attacks. Knowing how some of these people think, I am not surprised in the slightest bit. These are people (born and raised in Canada) who are convinced that the Jews killed JFK. Whatever.

As far as Netanyahu is concerned, I cannot stand the man. He is a sleaze in every sense of the word and no friend of America. He was so eager to strike an arms deal with China selling U.S. weapons. This is a man who claims that the Arabs hate Israel “because it is an extension of the U.S.” What planet’s he from? He was part of the problem.

SAS23 and others constantly call for the removal of Sharon. Sharon may not be an angel, but would you rather have this loon in power?
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:59 am

Sharon sucks

These are people (born and raised in Canada) who are convinced that the Jews killed JFK

OF COURSE NOT!!! The CIA did  Big thumbs up
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 7:22 pm

Well the papers have some more info today. There were about 200 protestors at the event, who of course blame the police for starting the riot. About 5 people were arrested, and the University placed a temporary moratorium bannig Middle Eastern related activities until until a plan to ease tensions can be set up. The student's union is fighting this, calling for the resignation of the dean of students and the school's security director, and also vowing to fight the expulsion of any of the 5 people arrested should they turn out to be students (what the hell?!).

The protestors/rioters are proud they stopped the speech, meanwhile they are being frowned apon as forcibly denying others the basic freedoms Canadian are supposed to freely enjoy. The Prime Minister's office had expressed that "democracy is not served when people are not allowed the right to speak.'' and some in the media have likened the strong-arm tactics of these protestors to Hitler's brownshirts.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:35 pm

"I am happy today," said Ayad Qasem, an electrical-engineering student at Concordia. "We have proved that we can achieve our national goals if we are united

What a stupid man. What did they achieve?
Instead of speaking in front of about 1000 people, Netanyahu spoke in every TV channel in front of millions of Canadians and said what he wanted to say.
Actually he should send flowers to these people. They gave him a huge public relation for free  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:42 pm

again it proves how arabs are prone to violence. when ever they attempt to do something they do it violently then they use the same old addage "we were oppressed and we didnt start it THEY started it"
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 8:59 pm

sas23 is silent, strange.hes been quite vocal so far on september 11th.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Wed Sep 11, 2002 11:10 pm

The RCMP is investigating the situation. I have nothing against peaceful protests but what these people (the majority of whom were Arabs) did is disgraceful. The irony of it all is that they're supposedly fighting for peace, yet they do not practise what they preach. Netanyahu was denouncing the extremists and terrorists, so why where they offended? They're implying by their actions that they're extremists! Hypocrits. There's no place for this kind of violence in Canada, and I hope that the RCMP opens a big can of whoop ass and cracks down on these thugs.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 12:10 am

Go Canada! - remarkably hypocritical comment there on your part given all the pleas you have made for peace and tranquiity today!  Insane Still, nothing we haven't come to expect from you ...
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 12:25 am

again it proves how arabs are prone to violence. when ever they attempt to do something they do it violently then they use the same old addage "we were oppressed and we didnt start it THEY started it

I know a group in israel that are exectly the same.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 12:52 am

Looks like the Arabs screwed up real bad

Your Jews screw up all the time.  Big thumbs up
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 1:27 am

how nice sas23, a good little dig by yourself, couldnt resist could you?

its true and highlighting the issues, your attacking in one set yet on another were you cant really carry on with your views you go quite, and yes you have been vocal on sept 11, more so than most.

pity you felt the need to attack me in 2 threads about this comment.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 1:55 am

Your Jews screw up all the time.

I'm not so sure about that David!  Laugh out loud

Jews are among the wealthiest most succesful Americans, Jewish students as a group score the highest on the SAT, and Jews are the largest "minority" in the Ivy Leagues. Jews continue to break into politics, big business, medecine, and media. The Jewish state, Israel, has won every war foisted upon it, and developed one of the world's most high tech economies with one of the world's highest standards of living in 50 years from a land that was once dessert. No matter how they did it, they did do it, something their 1 billion Arab neighbors ca not claim in any form.

So, Jews may screw up every now and then, like all of the world's people, but by all acounts, and you'd be blind or just dumb, not to see this, the Jewish people have done extraorindarily well for themselves, practically making themselves the country's most prosperous and well-educated citizens.

I'm not saying this to bolster my ego, its a fact pal.

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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 6:02 am

I find it amazing that some people can take a protest that has gone violent in a university and use it to attempt to convince us that all arabs are violent.

That's ludicrous... look at protests all over the world .. they get violent far more than they should and you will not find arabs behind it. I'm not aware of this one, but i'll bet behind the arab protestors you will find a bunch of rent-a-rabble-rouser who instigated the violence which happens in most protests.

Anyway, violence under these circumstances are wrong, stopping someone from speaking is wrong. However, may I point out that it was only last year when many of the zionist lobby were telling us that they would stop others such as David Irvine from speaking?

Be very careful what you complain about lest you be caught in a contradiction.

...and TWA .. wealth can buy many things ... but a small inaccuracy in your statement. Israel cannot realistically claim to have won any wars because behind their army stands the worlds superpower! It would be more appropriate to say they were on the winning side!





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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 6:45 am

Twaneedsnohelp:

"one billion Arab neighbours"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but since when are one sixth of the people on this earth Arab? Probably even one hundred million would be an exaggeration!
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 6:57 am

im sorry, there are one billion muslims, about 60% of whom are arab.

so 600 million, excuse me.
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:25 am

Your Jews screw up in Lebanon. They help the malitia kill over 2000 people. The Israelis bomb innocent civilians. They are low like the terrorists. They are violent and start wars. They never lost a war thanks to my tax dollars and 3 billion dollars a year of american money. The media is controlled by Jewish people and they mode our minds to everything Israeli.

I'm not saying this to bolster my ego, its a fact pal.

Yes its a ego bolster, and the fact is that you are a racist ara, muslim hater. So I advice you remove Islam and Arabic from your list of hobbies because, you do not like those things. Personally I think your worst then SAS23. Next time if someone saids something bad about your Jews dont complain. Hate for Hate........
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:36 am

Looks like you have a stalker, Russ!
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:38 am

So the jist of this thread is Arabs: bad, Jews: good.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:43 am

Imagine what it would be if it was Jews: bad, Arabs: good


Arabs hatre us because of Israel. Thats a fact
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:46 am

Is this arab bad? I hope so  Big thumbs up

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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:47 am

Twaneedsnohelp,

This is what it says in my almanac:

Algeria pop 30 million
Morocco pop 30 million
Tunisia pop 9 million
Libya pop 6 million
Egypt pop 65 million
Syria pop 16 million
Lebanon pop 4 million
Jordan pop 4 million
Iraq pop 22 million
Saudi Arabia pop 2 million
Qatar pop 1 million
Bahrain pop 1 million
UAE pop 2 million
Oman pop 2 million
Yemen pop 14 million

Total estimated population of "Arab" nations: 208 million people... a far cry from 600 million, or 60% of the Muslim population. Even after you factor in Arabs living abroad it doesn't make that big a dent. And, you have to factor in the fact that not all the citizens of these Arab nations are Muslim; Lebanon and the UAE are two prime examples. So, in actual fact, you'd be lucky if 20% of the Muslim population was Arab. By far, the largest numbers of Muslims are in South Asia and Southeast Asia.
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:48 am

Most muslims are Asian. Not arab. TNNH only believes his hate.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:52 am

WV: I thought Saudi Arabia's population was around 15 million? How come only 2 million are Arab?
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 7:57 am

Rai,

Yeah, I thought so too. I'm just following my almanac. If there are 15 million or so, I wonder whether or not they're all citizens (like in the UAE).
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:00 am

Wow, what has this thread turned into? David B. and SAS, take your name calling somewhere else.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:08 am

NO Tbar........TNNH is the name caller. Im just giving him a taste of his own medicine. Nothing wrong with that. DO you agree with what he said? DO you agree that all arab and muslims are evil. If so I can say the same about Jews.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:18 am

worldvoyager...

yeah dude, i dont know where you got that almanac, but those numbers are COMPLETELY WRONG. way way way off.

Saudi has over 22,000,000, not 2,000,000!!!  Nuts


 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:22 am

hey rai...

Looks like you have a stalker, Russ!

I know dude! Look at this creep. What should i do, he's getting a little weird. Dude, stalking can't healthy right?? Crazy friggin world out there

seeya pal,
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:23 am

David B.,

No, I do not agree that all Arabs or Muslims are evil, and have never said that. I do not agree that he is saying that all Arabs or Muslims are evil.

Yet, I also do not agree with your logic of "If he said that, then I can say this". Just because you think that he said that all Arab's are evil, do you really think that it is the best thing for you to say that all Jews are evil? You ever heard of the golden rule? Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself. Just beceause he says one thing doesn't mean you should go off and spewthe same thing.

Do you see where I'm getting at David B.? Do you really hate all Jews and think that they are evil? Would you really ever say that?
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 9:03 am

Yeah, even I don't think that 2 million is the correct population of Saudi Arabia! About 20 million is probably right.

Yet are you going to dispute the rest of the figures and continue to claim that 60% of Muslims are Arabs? Such a claim makes absolutely no sense, especially when you realize that Indonesia (230 million), India (100 million), Pakistan (150 million), Bangladesh (130 million) and Iran (66 million) already are home to 676 million (or close to 70%) of the world's Muslim population.
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 9:06 am

no i dont. I also dont think there should be a double standard. So if he saids something offensive about a group, I will say something offensive about his group. Eye for a eye. He doesnt like it, he should stop it.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 9:12 am

David,

I think it has nothing to do with a double standard. For example, if somebody says something racist to me (I'm Jewish), I'm not going to stoop to their level and resort to racist comments and name calling.

If somebody says something that you dislike, and its an ignorant comment, you should not stoop to their level and say comments that are similar. Its degrading to the people you are insulting, but most of all to yourself, as you lose credibility to those around you.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 9:14 am

BTW, except for Saudi Arabia and some minor discrepancies with Egypt and Yemen, the stats of my almanac are quite similar to the stats of the CIA World Fact Book. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/
 
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 9:14 am

Perfect example, the Arabs that rioted were against the violence that the Israeli army is using against Palestinians, so what do they go and do? Ironic isn't it, that they choose to be violent themselves. Were they succesful in shining a good light on themselves to the rest of the world? Instead, they are now seen as the bad guys. Didn't work did it.

Do you see where I'm going Davd B.?
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Thu Sep 12, 2002 12:05 pm

David B, change your tactic. From a spectator's point of view, you are just another intolerant fool. If we listed bigots on this site, you'd be right there.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Fri Sep 13, 2002 11:05 pm

Rai,

To answer your question, in the Gulf most of the population of a country (like UAE, Saudi, Qatar) is made up of expats (especially Indians, Pakistani's and Filipino's) and also Arabs (Syrians, Palestinians, etc). So even though Saudi's population is 15M that doesn't mean they're all Arabs, a good amount is probably made up of Indians and other Asians.

The Arab population is closer to 250 Million people.

What happened at Concordia was DISGRACEFUL. This is Canada and it's a peaceful country. They could have demonstrated peacefully yet they chose to turn to violence. Thank God so many of these thugs have been expelled.
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RE: Riot Halts Netenyahu Speech In Montreal

Sat Sep 14, 2002 12:12 am

TNNH and you would also be up there. You are just as hateful as SAS23 and TNNH. No different.
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