You STILL miss my point! Learning about religion from inside the church is like learning about communist Russia back in 50s America!
But we live in a secular society so as soon as we leave the Church we're confronted with people like you, so you're example is incorrect.
Or about Nazi Germany in 40s Britain. The view is biased. Will the church EVER admit to its failings?! Not to the level that someone independant will.
It's not about the "Church". The Church is made up of people, and those are the components of the Church. People make mistakes. People are not perfect and some are perverse and ruin the message.
You just dismissing it as garbage straight off it pretty telling if you ask me...
Telling of what? Lubcha claimed that it was because of Jesus that Jews were killed. I replied by saying we are not taught that kind of crap in Church. You're not making any sense.
Fair enough, but that's not the point I'm making. The church as a whole will never admit that Christianity (whatever that may be) has made mistakes in the past.
The Catholic Church apologized to the Jews. Everyone apologized to the Jews. We Christians admit (just like I am now) that some of us have given us a bad name but that is not what Christianity is about.
Will you ever admit that Christianity and the church has been wrong in these discussions?
Not Christianity, churches have made mistakes but thats because they followed their own agenda, not God's. One of the commandments is "thou shalt not kill". That explains itself.
I doubt that you will. Do you discuss how many people have died as a DIRECT result of the birth of Christ/Jesus?
But Christ came to save us, so that we wouldn't have to face eternal separation and whether you're willing to admit it, His sacrifice was and still is an awesome gesture.
And what's the conclusion? I'm guessing its that these people are not TRUE followers of Christ, or those that killed mis-read what was written in the Bible, right?
If you're suggesting that it's in the Bible, back up your accusations with facts, not just hot air. (It's ironic to see you accusing Christianity of preaching hatred, and not while ago you were defending Islam (not that I have anything against Muslims)). My question to you is why do you defend every religion and only mock Christianity?
Maybe I am biased, I'm looking at it from what is (in my eyes) and objective point of view.
But I thought you implied I was biased and you weren't...so according to your logic your wrong...
You can't really claim that my point of view is clouded when you're analysing Christianity and religion in general from WITHIN the church.
You're putting too much emphasis on the Church. Christianity isn't about the church, it's a lifestyle which you choose and Church is just a once-a-week thing. It's a time of worship and fellowship but it's not necessarily the only thing Christianity is about. Please explain your point of view because I'm not sure I understand what you're going on about.
You're not biased?
Will you even admit that "religion" has caused lots and lots of suffering?
Which is why religion means nothing to me. To me it's not about religion or being religious, I have a Christian lifestyle and a relationship with God. I don't view it as a set of rules or a religion. I believe in Christ and God only. Religion has caused alot of deaths over the years but that still doesn't mean it's bad. Religion has saved millions from starving. Religion has given hope to millions. Religion has given us morals and laws (yes I know, you don't think so, but I do).
Will you admit that as a DIRECT result of the birth of Jesus, lots and lots of people have died and suffered?
And till this day every year 150,000 Christians are killed because they believe in Him. A Biblical prophesy (by the way). Till this day millions are starving in Southern Sudan because they believe in Jesus. They are persecuted in China, India, Indonesia, etc...
What's ironic is Jesus came to prevent bloodshed, to promote peace and human values. Now people like you are claiming that it's because of Him that people suffer. It just goes to show how the devil has taken control, eh?
Good night triple seven