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Need Medical Help - Kinda Urgent.

Sun Sep 29, 2002 10:04 pm

Hi guys,

This morning I played football, I tired myself out quite a bit, alot of running on quite a hot sunny day. Well I took in lots of water, was ok and rode home. I've been sitting here for about an hour and went to the shops to get a drink. Once I got home I opened a bottle of coke, but once I'd just took a little bit I had a huge pain in my chest and blacked out.

I got up again after about 30 seconds but now the pain has gone but I have a huge headache. I'm pretty hot, maybe that was part of the problem?

Well whatever it was, It made me burp a hell of alot, and I feel really bad...  Sad.

Any ideas? I might go get a small glass of water and maybe take some anadin extra or something...

regards

Dan
 
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Sun Sep 29, 2002 10:06 pm

Help/advice, whatever. I phoned the doctors but there was nobody there.. bloody typical...

blagh!!! I had a similar incident last week but alot less violent.
 
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Sun Sep 29, 2002 10:12 pm

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Sun Sep 29, 2002 10:21 pm

phoned the doctors but there was nobody there

Typical nationalized health care system.

It could be several things, it sounds like you where hydrated though, so I, who does not have the medical background to squeeze a pimple, would guess that maybe it is some sort of chemical imbalance that was egravated by the exhertion.

I say get to the doc's and have some tests done.
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Sun Sep 29, 2002 10:23 pm

I felt like that the other day after riding my bike on the uphill trek to school. I hadn't eaten that morning, and I had a sweater on and my 30 pound backpack even though it was 30 celsius out! When I got to English class we started watching "Legends of the Fall" with french subtitles. :/ I was feeling all light headed and tired, so I asked to go get a drink of water, and when I got up I fell down again  Laugh out loud Total blackout man. I woke up outside in the hall, where some of my friends had carried me. The teacher thought that the "War scenes" had shocked me. LMAO. Legends of the Fall. LOL.

I suggest getting some rest and drinking lots of water (No coke) Also, sugars are important after that kind of exercise.

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Sun Sep 29, 2002 10:26 pm

Might have had something to do with the oxygen bubbles in my coca-cola?

777236ER - No chance, I rang for ages and ages but no dice, busy  Sad.

anyways I drank alot of water with my steak (mmmmm steak). muahaha Big grin
 
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Sun Sep 29, 2002 10:41 pm

Er, well your town/city should have an emergency surgery that's open on sundays/banks holidays etc. You don't know what it is? Ring around, someone will know where it is and what the number is. Failing that, why not go down to the A&E? Bear in mind that if you phone your GP tomorrow you're unlikely to get an appointment for a couple of days and if its serious he or she will just refer you to the hospital anyway. Sunday afternoons aren't going to be busy for the A&E, so go down.
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:09 am

777236ER - I live in a town about 12 miles from Bristol, there are two A & E wards there but I have no way of getting there. My parents are in Germany so, its not urgent enough to call on anyone else, the doctors in the town are closed..

Guess thats one of the bad points about living in a small town  Sad.

regards

Dan
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:16 am

EGGD: After strenuous exercise, youre not supposed to drink a lot of water or fluids right afterwards. You should drink a small amount of water, then wait sometime, like go take a shower, then come back and drink however much you want. Drinking a lot right after hard exercise can cause really bad aches. But you passed out, which isn't really that typical if you know what I mean. Do you have any doctor friends or anyone you can ask? Try WebMd?

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Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:20 am

FSPilot747 - I did drink alot of water, I've done it before and I know its a bit of a mistake but I was so damn hot...

When I actually got the pain etc was about 1 hour after the game, maybe a little more. I assume its something to do with oxygen but whatever it was hurt like hell!!!

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Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:25 am

It does help to drink certain sports drinks like Gatorade or Powerade when excersing outside under the Sun in hot conditions, also make sure to eat something about two hours before you excersise (nothing big though).
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:40 am

Were you sweating? If you were, it was probably just heat exhaustion, and any number of things could have caused you to go into psychogenic shock and black out, which is not that dangerous.

If you were not sweating than it would be something more serious but you would not be talking to us right now. Just take it easy for a bit and ask your doctor when you get a chance. Doesn't sound like an emergency to me.

The best way to prevent this is to drink throughout your exercising. If you get so hot and dehydrated that your body loses too much water to continue sweating, then you will lose the ability for your body to cool itself and heat stroke will set in.

Also, don't drink coke. Caffeine dehydrates you more and the carbonation isn't that good for you in that state.
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:44 am

lol AZO, well I wasn't sweating at all, which was kinda odd... But I guess I wouldnt' be talking right now if I had heat stroke...

Coke I know is bad, but I thought It'd been long enough since I was playing football that I would have recovered...

Well, I drank some water, ate some mars bars and had a lie down, and i'm feeling a bit better now so...

thanks for all the information guys, appreciated  Smile.

Regards

Dan
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:51 am

Not necessarily, i suppose it is possible to recover from heat stroke on your own, though it could have been much much worse. If you were not sweating and were really hot, then it no doubt was heat stroke. Next time put water on your face, it will act as artificial sweat. And try to get a fan or a breeze going over it to evaporate the heat off your skin. Also if you can, put cold packs under your armpits. Should do the trick real nice-like.
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 12:53 am

AZO - I put a wet flannel on my head straight away, as I could feel the heat coming off it. Maybe that helped? I've found it can cool me down in the past...

Oh well, its over now and you know what they say, learn from your mistakes  Smile.

Regards

Dan
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 1:24 am

It may be nothing more than a little heat stress, but blackouts are worth investigating further. Please make an appointment with your doctor and get a full check-up.
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 4:13 am

Actually Dan, I do think you were dehydrated.

You probably didn't drink anything from the time you woke up to the time you played football, right? If you did, it probably wasn't much.

If you weren't sweating while you were playing, that's really bad! It means you're dehydrated.

It sounds like you were really thirsty after you were done playing. You should be a little thirsty, but not that thirsty.

I run 5K races for cross country so I need to be very very well hydrated. If I'm not, bad stuff happens. Anyways, after the race I'm not even thirsty until about a half hour later. That's 5K, 3.1 miles, mind you! Not even thirsty.

It could also be caused by doing it in the morning, when you haven't eaten a lot. Your body is running on fumes, and you're asking for a blackout/headache!

So I think you were dehydrated, and you did too much too early in the morning, that's all.

My humble, quite educated guess  Big grin

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Mon Sep 30, 2002 4:30 am

Doesn't help that i'm not a morning person. Dehydrated is probably about it, heat stroke is a little more serious Big grin. Problem is I felt perfectly fine until I drank something at home...

I used to do cross country too (2-4 miles normally), but I never drank anything. But then again I never drink anything anyway, I usually take re-hydration tablets. I had a couple of glasses of water this morning, along with a selection of citrus fruits (apples and oranges hehehe). Blefg I might just give up the football anyway, I've been kicked out of the academy a record (probably) 5 times now. Whats the point!!!

Regards

Dan Big grin
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 4:36 am

Don't worry, I suffer from frequent blackouts and my dad, who is a doctor, is not at all worried and puts it down to adolescence. It has improved a lot since when I drink coffee, so maybe it would be worth trying that.
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 4:43 am

Turbolet - I'm pretty sure thats called 'tiredness'  Big thumbs up
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 4:57 am

EGGD, you're probably correct. Tiredness is something I get a lot of, hehe.
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 5:22 am

EGGD,

I have a different guess than the rest of the people here. I think you might have an esophageal ulcer, that is, an ulcer in your espohagus. Caffeinated drinks can serious irritate an already inflamed espohagus. Esophageal irritation is usually caused by gastric reflux, that is, stomach acid that passes through the upper muscle that's supposed to close off your stomach. If you have been involved in heavy exercise, especially while lying on your back or doing push-ups, you might have irritated your esophagus, and then you added the caffeine to that, causing extreme pain.

The vagus nerve which controls blood pressure is also very close to your esophagus and can be affected by stomach pressure. So you might have had a combined reaction to esophageal irritation and vagus nerve stimulation, causing the blackout.

You should probably see a doctor even if you are feeling better. Aside from my theory and those of the others who have posted, you could be experiencing mild symptoms that are related to a more serious medical problem.

Good luck,
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 5:47 am

Hi redngold - Thanks for the information, to be honest I didn't really think about anything like that. I'll research about esophageal ulcers and consult a doctor, hopefully it'll be nothing that serious but its better safe than sorry.

Thanks for all the suggestions and tips etc, much appreciated!

regards

Dan
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:15 am

EGGD- How much did you eat/drink before you played?

As Shawn said, your body is usually running on fumes in the morning.

When I have morning cross country meets, I usually eat cerial such as Frosted Flakes and have a glass of orange juice and another glass of Gatorade and I keep sipping water until about 15 minutes before the race. That way, I get hydrated, but because I am taking the water over time and not in huge gulps, I don't cramp up.

Also, try having a bottle of Gatorade after you play football, after I finish a race, it is a great cool down drink for me.

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Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:28 am

probably about 300mls of water.

probably...
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:55 am

Yeah, you needed to have much more than 300mls of water. It's definetly dehydration. We've had tons of kids pass out on our cross country team - the coach bitches about drinking more water and that's the end of it!

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Mon Sep 30, 2002 2:05 pm

EGGD:
If it recurs, or you have further poroblems, it's a bit late to start wishing you had done something about it. And, from what I have read, and with no offence to anyone, there's not a lot of what you might call informed medical opinion on this thread (including mine!!)

See a doctor. If that's impossible, at least see a pharmacist. Don't self-diagnose on the net. If you are young and healthy and reasonably fit, it probably shouldn't happen to you, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is or isn't serious. So talk to someone who can give help, no matter how difficult it may be. Don't put it off. That's just plain silly - which you generally aren't - so don't start now. Hope all is well and you are OK.
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Mon Sep 30, 2002 5:02 pm

The same thing happened to me about three years ago and has happened twice since then.

If it doesn't happen regularly and just happened out of the blue then go to your doctor and/or hospital. The told me it could be Diabetes. (spelt right??)

Strange!

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