wardialer
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OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 1:08 pm

A few months ago the Palestinians killed dozens and dozens of innocent people and children by strapping themselves with C-4. WHY IRAQ AND NOT THE PALESTINIANS??? I would wish to have some expert to answer this question please. I dont get it, were supposed to fight terror and we just ignore the Palestinians??
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 1:28 pm

It's all a guilt thing as to why we don't fight the Palestinians.
Great Britian had quite a hand in establishing Israel and not doing anything about the Jews herding the Palestinians out. Most western countries feel that Israel has proven its legitimacy by trying several solutions to the problem; and we admire the Israelis for not allowing themselves to be driven into the sea when all their neighbors would seem to be happy to destroy them. However we don't want to fight the Palestinians becuase we feel sorry for them. I don't think the soulution they want is feasable; and I don't think their methods of resistance are noble; but I do recognize that they have a valid gripe. This makes moral judgement very hard. Also the Palestinians are a people; a group. We recognize that individuals in the group may not like the violence any more than we do. We recognize that not everyone there is filled with hatred. Also they are a minority group; we have been brainwashed by the liberal agenda (for better or worse in this case) to believe that it is not acceptable to hate a group of people. American's will not judge those who believe in Radical Islam the same way we judged the Germans or Japanese in WWII. It's not politically correct; however smart it may be from a self defense standpoint.

Saddam, however is an individual. Although it is often actually hard to hate an individual whom you know personally; it is quite easy to hate an individual that is demonized so thouroughly. Saddam Hussein is compared with Adolph Hitler; and not without reason. He kills his political opponents. He tests weapons on ethnic minorities in his country; He shot his own son. He already tried to take over Kuwait; He already tried to take over Iran. We know he is trying to import weapons grade Plutonium. We know he is not above using "Weapons of Mass Destruction". By all accounts he really has no redeeming qualities; therefore we don't feel bad in launching a war against him.
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 3:09 pm

I agree, Palestinian terror is absymal and should be desroyed.

However, the Palestinians are Israel's problem and Israel is cleaning up the mess. Iraq is the world's problem, so naturally the US will conduct the dirty work on that one.

lastly, you said "....a few months ago..." refferring to Palestinian suicide bombing. Were you not familiar with the attack just one week ago, where a Hamas Palestinian terrorist blew up a city bus in downtown Tel Aviv, murdering 6 innocent civilians, include a visiting Scottish student - murdered just because he was Jewish.













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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 3:45 pm

Amazingly, the family of the Scottish student donated his organs to save the life of a seven year old Palestinian girl.
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 4:05 pm

The Palestinians are in the same position as the Kurds or the Shia (Marsh Arabs). They are being occupied by a brutal oppressor, and like the Resistance fighting the Nazis during the Second World War - or the people that rose up against the Soviets in 1956 and 1968 - they have a legitimate right to try to secure their freedom.

Rather, a better question would have been given:

* Israel ignores UN resolutions against it
* Israel prohibits entry to UN Inspectors
* Israel has between 200 and 500 nuclear warheads
* Israel has biological weapons, including an 'ethnic bomb' jointly developed with their close friends, apartheid South Africa; and has used cholera and typhoid in Palestinian refugee camps (mainly in Lebanon)
* Israel has chemical weapons
* Israel has attacked a US warship, killing and wounding US servicemen
* Israel has used spies in the United States to steal its most sensitive secrets - and promptly given them to the Soviets, resulting in the deaths of US agents
* Israel denies people under its control basic human rights, including the right to education, freedom of movement, medical facilities etc

... why is it OK to attack Saddam but not Israel?
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 4:57 pm

yeah except the resistance fighting the nazis stooped so low that it bombed childrens nightclubs, and family pizza parlors.

something to think about. the palestinians actions influence the world's view of the palestinians.

hard to feel sorry for people who blow up pizza places, school buses, and bar mitzvahs.  Insane
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 4:59 pm

In fact the problem with Israel should be worse than with Iraq, because in Iraq the world is faced with a president ruling his country as a pure and very brutal dictator, so there's a problem with the leadership of Iraq, but not with its people.

However, Israel has a democratically elected government ignoring several UN resolutions, massively violating the non-proliferation agreements and even going as far as using weapons of mass destruction against innocent people under their occupation, so the world (except the US) has a problem with the people of Israel and not only with their leadership.

 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 5:33 pm

if any democracy was faced with the terror Israel is now, they would react the same way.

tnnh
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 6:44 pm

Democracies tend not to be born from terrorism, murder and ethnic cleansing, Russell.  Insane
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 6:47 pm

TNNH,

It's highly hypocritical to be calling the Palestinians names when in the last 12 months or so we've seen behaviour just as bad (if not worse because it's state sanctioned) from the Israelis.







VH-ADG

 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 7:19 pm

Its action like this by the Israelis (and the US) that reduces the effectiveness of the UN ... http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/international.cfm?id=1095422002

ISRAEL yesterday brushed aside Prime Minister Tony Blair’s call for it to implement UN resolutions and enter into peace negotiations with the Palestinians.

An Israeli government official stressed that Mr Blair’s remarks were received as an effort to spur UN diplomacy against Iraq, and not as a serious rebuke to Israel. But in dismissing Mr Blair’s call, the official added: "All UN resolutions intended to undermine Israel’s security are irrelevant."

Mr Blair’s call for a resumption of talks and a peace deal based on 1967 borders to create a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip is at direct loggerheads with the policy of the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon.

Mr Sharon has said he envisages most of the West Bank remaining in Israeli hands.

Officials of Mr Arafat’s Fatah movement, meanwhile, said that in the wake of the Israeli siege of his offices, Fatah had decided to stop pressing Mr Arafat to appoint a prime minister, previously a central demand of reformers.
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 8:10 pm

"Israel has biological weapons, including an 'ethnic bomb' jointly developed with their close friends, apartheid South Africa; and has used cholera and typhoid in Palestinian refugee camps (mainly in Lebanon)"

For crying out loud... Here we go again with the same BS, just as baseless and ridiculous (and proven wrong) as it was in the other threads where identical accusations were made.

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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 9:40 pm

israel has never ethnically cleansed anyone. thats horseshit.
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 10:08 pm

...even going as far as using weapons of mass destruction against innocent people under their occupation...

What the hell are you talking about?
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Thu Oct 03, 2002 11:33 pm

OK, Russell ... then perhaps you prefer "the Zionist terrorist groups (who included two subsequent Israeli Prime Ministers who carried out ethnic cleansing attacks on Palestinian villages"? And we could also mention Israeli laws which were identical to the apartheid Group Areas Act which prohibited Palestinians/Arabs from living in certain areas?  Insane  Insane

LY744 - actually, it is correct ... there were even demonstrations about the use of these weapons in Israel back in the late 1980s.
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 12:52 am

A proof that Israel can sometimes be a dangerous country?
Just remember the Sabra and Chatila massacre (september 1982)... (between 2750 and 3000 people killed)

 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 2:54 am

However, Israel has a democratically elected government ignoring several UN resolutions, massively violating the non-proliferation agreements and even going as far as using weapons of mass destruction against innocent people under their occupation, so the world (except the US) has a problem with the people of Israel and not only with their leadership.

You should be proud SAS, you have another one of your supporters. Care to say anything else about how glorious Palestinian suicide bombers are while you're at it?

This is a crock of shit.
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 3:23 am

It would be useless for the US to militarily strike the Palestinians because the terrorist networks in the region are "underground" and intermingled with the general Palestinian population to the point that you'd just have to practice genocide to completely eliminate Palestinian terror. Genocide is something that no democratic country, including Israel, should be willing to practice even for the sake of their own national security. This is why Yasser Arafat's competence is SO IMPORTANT. It is the responsibility of the Palestinian leadership to rid their people of the extremist "destroy Israel" ideology. As long as even a significant minority of Palestinians passionately support the absolute destruction of Israel regardless of weather or not the IDF pulls out of the Occupied Territories, suicide bombing style attacks will continue. What incentive do the Israelis have to end their oppression of the Palestinians if allowing Palestine to create its own state only grants them more power with which to attack Israel? How can the Palestinian Leadership quell extremist ideology? Is this an impossible task? These are all important questions with no easy answers, proving once again just how complex conflict in this region will be to resolve.
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 5:51 am

"A few months ago the Palestinians killed dozens and dozens of innocent people and children by strapping themselves with C-4. WHY IRAQ AND NOT THE PALESTINIANS??? I would wish to have some expert to answer this question please. I don't get it, were supposed to fight terror and we just ignore the Palestinians??"


Wardialer, exactly how naive are you? If this was a "War on Terror (for the sake of freedom)" then YES we should have already gone after anyone who terrorized another... BUT the US government doesn't give a hooping funt for peoples lives; those Palestinian terrorists are not even going directly after American targets.

Another logical reason, there are too many civilians everywhere to get an accurate strike, which is bull because we all witnessed the power of the Israeli Air force.  Yeah sure

The US military and governmental politicians run on MONEY, Saddam has become a larger and larger target in the past year, there is a greater spending opportunity there than say a few dozen per day Palestinian extremists. The United States will never help or back away from Israel, this simply makes any "opposition forces" more angry at the US and they may take steps to change that. I am sure we would prefer to get attacked rather than go after someone while the world complains about our altertior motives, it is better to defend ones' self in the 21st. century. A "reactionary attack" is fueled by revegist anger where no one will ask why.

Sadly, if anything, the current US Admin WILL let another 9/11-type incident happen to the US only (they could not care less for the world). Compare the reactions in the world and their leaders while we were about to go after Saddam and the weeks after 9/11/01 -- there is an enormous difference.

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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 7:11 am

The Palestinians are in the same position as the Kurds or the Shia (Marsh Arabs).

And the Assyrians.. The Assyrians are the natives of mesopatamia, not the Arabs and not the Kurds. Yet no one cares about us. Let's not forget how much our ancient civilization contributed to this world, and that we still speak Jesus' language to this day, aramaic.
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 7:16 am

SAS23:
And we could also mention Israeli laws which were identical to the apartheid Group Areas Act which prohibited Palestinians/Arabs from living in certain areas?

What laws?

Name one!
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 7:17 am

and has used cholera and typhoid in Palestinian refugee camps (mainly in Lebanon)



sas23,

You continue to spread your monstruous and TYPICALLY ANTI-SEMITIC lies on these forums...

At least you are showing your true face to all those who haven't yet found out who you are...
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 10:03 am

Israel has used all kinds of chemical weapons. The Dutch gov't announced (with Israeli tacit agreement) that the 747 that crashed in a housing estate in Amsterdam was carrying Sarin ingredients from the US, and a cancer cluster exists in the area to this day.

I think UN resolutions against Iraq and Israel should be enforced, and a completely free and independent Palestine should be recognised immediately in 100% of the West Bank and Gaza, with Jerusalem an international city for the Jews, Muslims and Christians (and Armenians) of the world to enjoy equally. And we'll all enjoy ten thousand years of peace and prosperity for the entire Middle East including an Israel free of the terrible violence that is giving Judaism the bad name it otherwise does not deserve.
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 7:38 pm

Israel has used all kinds of chemical weapons.




Please elaborate...and tell the audience WHICH gas gave been used, WHEN, WHERE against which targets...

This is once more a BS accusation, a pure a simple lie aimed at insulting the people of Israel.




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including an Israel free of the terrible violence that is giving Judaism the bad name it otherwise does not deserve.



Shame and indifference have no limits, I see...well coming from somebody who write that "Israel has used all kinds of chemical weapons" , it's really not astonishing...

The terrible violence AGAINST Israel is not worth being mentionned...it is just OK to hide it....Well, more than 620 citizen killed in horrific suicide bombings and other terror attacks is a mere detail in your eyes. This monstruous terrorism is not what you call "the terrible violence"...

And of course...these blind and indiscriminate killings are NOT giving Islam the bad name... ...
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 7:55 pm

Toda, I'm also talking about the phosphorous bombs dropped on Beirut in Israel's air raids that killed 17,000 Lebanese (not Palestinian, not PLO, not terrorist) civilians. Do you know what happens to human flesh when pieces of phosporous touch it?

You can clutch the 620 dead Israelis to your heart and hold them up as proof that Palestinians should never be given any of their land back, but you ignore the tens of thousands of others killed by Israeli weapons since 1948. ALL the killing in Israel & Palestine gives Judaism AND Islam a bad name. I think Judaism suffers more because the Jews aren't living under occupation, and if they weren't so greedy in wanting all of the West Bank and Gaza, they could end the fighting tomorrow.
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 8:04 pm

and if they weren't so greedy in wanting all of the West Bank and Gaza, they could end the fighting tomorrow.


- ...very interesting to find over and over the same good old anti-Semitic vocabulary....really illustrative...


- the previous Israeli gvt gave the Palestinians the WB and Gaza....and this offer, combined with the withdrawal from south Lebanon, RESULTED in the unending Palestinian terror campaign which has claimed so far 624 Israeli lives.


Your bright little sentence could also be put this way :

"and if they [the Palestinians...] weren't so greedy in wanting all of Israel, they could end the fighting tomorrow.... - if they hadn't started them, in the first place...
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 8:21 pm

"and a cancer cluster exists in the area to this day."

The Dutch medical community never acknowledged that.

"and Armenians"

 Laugh out loud Armenians?

"And we'll all enjoy ten thousand years of peace and prosperity for the entire Middle East including an Israel free of the terrible violence that is giving Judaism the bad name it otherwise does not deserve."

What world do you live in?

"Do you know what happens to human flesh when pieces of phosporous touch it?"

Do you know what happens to the human mind when it comes in contact with propoganda? Of course you do. Search for "Phosphorus bombs" and look what kind of websites pop right up...

"and if they weren't so greedy in wanting all of the West Bank and Gaza, they could end the fighting tomorrow."

That's just retarded, 95% of Israelis (and even more Jews) do not want to have anything to do with that crap hole. If it wasn't for decades of terrorism originating from there they wouldn't be there for crying out loud.

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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 8:40 pm

we shouldnt attack the palestinians, we should deal with the palestinian terrorists just as palestinians should focus on the israeli army rather than walking into universities and killing israeli and forgein students.
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Fri Oct 04, 2002 11:18 pm

we shouldnt attack the palestinians, we should deal with the palestinian terrorists


It's precisely what Israel is trying to do...

But the Palestinian terror organizations are willfully operating in densely populated civilian areas, just like the Hezbollah in southern Lebanon; and it is because of these coward tactics that the Israeli army has lost dozens of young soldiers, in order to prevent as much as possible civilian casualties on the Palestinian side.
But of course, this isn't sufficient for Israel's "moral high ground" as some say on these forums....Israel's wars must be 100% "safe", with NO collateral damages at all. Such a degree of efficiency, which is of course impossible to attain, is not "requiered" from ANY other army in the world...nor from the US in Afghanistan (...), neither from the NATO in Yugoslavia or from any other armed force.
Strange...
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sat Oct 05, 2002 4:16 am

Without reading the other posts, my comment on the topic is that the correct topic should have been: OK to Attack Saddam,But not Israel. Iraq has been attacked and even this probable war will be justified because Iraq does not implement the UN resolutions. WHAT THE GOD DAMN HELL ABOUT ISRAEL????
Has Israel EVER implemented those FEW resolutions that are passed demanding the end to this or that occupation????? (Few because the US vetos most of them which would otherwise be passed with huge votes)
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:34 am

Why should heavily biased, uninformed people be discussing this anyway?

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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 5:48 am

Bravo, thanks to heavily biased zionist lobbies, the US government is under the control of these lobbies which like terrorist groups, must be destroyed. Israel is the 51st state not a seperate country.
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LY744
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 6:20 am

Using the classic arguments, such as Jews poisoning stuff, Jews being greedy, Jews taking control over countries in which they are a minority etc. makes it somewhat hard to blame members for using such terms as "anti-semitism" to describe these people.  Sleepy

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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 6:22 am

thanks to heavily biased zionist lobbies, the US government is under the control of these lobbies which like terrorist groups, must be destroyed.


David B. doesn't like to be labelled an anti-Semite...but he's constantly using the most typical anti-Semitic stereotypes...Here he come again with the old domination theory : the Jews control the world...and must therefore be "destroyed"...........


David B.'s profile page is worth a visit...And I was "pleased" to find among his "respected users" quite all the members with whom I always disagree...:

Sonic,

SAS23,

FSpilot747,

777236ER,

Ryanb741,

Hepkat,

ADG,

BA,

we're nuts.


I hope they all feel greatly honored to be fully appreciated by David B. And I know that some of them share his anti-Semitic hatred.

But I also hope from those who don't share these "opinions" to say it loudly...


 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 9:17 am

Toda,Reisinger it looks like you are one of those people. The lobby is so strong, it has hijacked the US government. That is the truth, and it can be helped. They influence our government into doing things it doesnt like. Just like you call for the destruction of Islam and arabs, I call for the destruction of lobbies who are destroying our government. I didn't say that they agreeded with me but i sure know that they dont agree with you.
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 9:40 am

I hope they all feel greatly honored to be fully appreciated by David B. And I know that some of them share his anti-Semitic hatred.

But I also hope from those who don't share these "opinions" to say it loudly...


I hope they all feel greatly honored to be fully appreciated by David B. Toda,Reisinger And I know that some of them share his anti-Semitic anti-arab/Islam hatred.

But I also hope from those who don't share these "opinions" to say it loudly...
Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
 
LY744
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 10:23 am

BTW, how is Toda accusing you of anti-semitism different from you accusing him of Arab-hating? Seems very hypocritical to me.

LY744.
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:13 am

Just like you call for the destruction of Islam and arabs





 Wow!  Wow!  Wow!  Wow!





. . .  Nuts


 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:49 am

when I express my opinion on this forum, it seems as though they magically disappear. I wonder how...
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 4:41 am

Where I might disagree with David here is that it is AMERICA that is not a separate country, and a part of Israel.
Sharon has ON THE RECORD said something like (perhaps while discussing about the operations into Jenin, the operation defensive shield) "You guys tell me that America is going to do this and that, let me tell you one thing, we control America and the Americans know it."
I had lost the link to this news, however her is something that ONLY ISRAEL says int he entire world:
"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."
The link is http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1241000/1241371.stm
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 4:53 am

As I have said before, Ariel Sharon (and Binyamin Netanyahu) pose a far greater threat to world peace than Saddam Hussein. Hopefully, the civilised will do something about these people before it is too late...
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:19 am

"You guys tell me that America is going to do this and that, let me tell you one thing, we control America and the Americans know it."
I had lost the link to this news...


Ooh...seriously, you had lost the link? ... the link could only lead somewhere into your own head...or to sas23 & Co...



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Ariel Sharon (and Binyamin Netanyahu) pose a far greater threat to world peace than Saddam Hussein.


To kill thousands of innocent civilians with chemical weapons is nothing more than an unsignificant detail...

To launch an 8 year-long war against his neighbor which resulted in a million dead, using chemical weapons, is also nothing more than a mere detail...

To occupy and annex another neighboring country is also a small play...

Saddam has taken all these evil actions as a bloody dictator...BUT, of course, he is still an insignificant danger compared to an elected Prime Minister in Israel...

And of course, this insane "reasoning" is in NO way inspired by any kind of anti-Israeli sentiments...no no no...it is a purely FACTUAL analysis......


You really belong to David B's respected users list...you're proving it once more, brilliantly



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Hopefully, the civilised will do something about these people before it is too late...


...yes, let's hope Sharon and Netanyahu are put out of the game before they send the next wave of suicide bombers to the United States....or before they launch the nuclear bomb on Washington...you're right, the danger is great!


 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:30 am

SAS23,

you have my full support, I couldn't agree more.


Regards
Udo


P.S.: Some of you guys wouldn't have a problem with a large scale attack on Palestinian civilians, right?
You blame the Palestinian side for terrorism, but ignore the terror of Israeli military against civilians...bombing children with F-16s just for blind retaliation is nothing else than terrorism. But some of you are totally brainwashed...
I guess some people in Israel (and elsewhere) would love to see an attack on Saddam, with all its consequences (like raging masses of people on the streets in the Arabic world). In such a case Sharon and Co could justify a reckless large attack on Palestinian targets...damn, that makes me sick.
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:33 am

Toda, your a member of THI.....so I dont know what you are saying. Those things were done by your lovely country of Israel by nor PM Sharon. Boy you must be proud of all those people he killed. Camt handle the truth? You can bash Islam but we cant talk about Israel? You belong to TNNH's RU list........and man.........you share his views like you say I share SAS's. Israel is making it harder for the US to take on Iraq. It is making it harder to nogociate peace especially with 24x7 curfews.....how are people suppose to get food. But to you that doesn't matter as long as they worship Israel. Sharon is a great threat.......................and what is your religion BTW?
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:42 am


bombing children with F-16s just for blind retaliation is nothing else than terrorism. But some of you are totally brainwashed...


bombing children with F-16s just for blind retaliation

bombing children with F-16s just for blind retaliation

bombing children with F-16s just for blind retaliation

bombing children with F-16s just for blind retaliation



And  NutsYOU Nuts speak of  Nutsbrainwashing Nuts...? Nuts Nuts Nuts Nuts?



 Laugh out loud



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Toda, your a member of THI.....


I'm sure you're convinced it exists...
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:54 am

We are already brainwashed Toda. By your ZHI.............wonder why we only hear from the Isreali side. Do zionists believe in freedom of speech?
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 8:07 am

"Ariel Sharon (and Binyamin Netanyahu) pose a far greater threat to world peace than Saddam Hussein. Hopefully, the civilised will do something about these people before it is too late..."

Guess what, Sharon is going to be out of office soon anyways, Saddam won't.

"I guess some people in Israel (and elsewhere) would love to see an attack on Saddam,"

People in Israel would hate to see an attack on Iraq because they are terrified at the thought of another Iraqi attack on Israel(i civilians).

"Israel is making it harder for the US to take on Iraq."

Waaaaait, I thought the attack on Iraq was a(nother evil) zionist conspiracy?

P.S. right on Toda!

LY744.
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Bryan Becker
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 12:42 pm

its all about the oil..
 
Udo
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:04 pm

Toda,

ever watched the news? Or what kind of news do they show in Switzerland?

Nice faces in your posting, you like paintings, don't you?


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Udo
Me & You & a Plane Named Blue...
 
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RE: OK To Attack Saddam, But Not Palestinians?

Mon Oct 07, 2002 6:22 pm

"You guys tell me that America is going to do this and that, let me tell you one thing, we control America and the Americans know it."
I had lost the link to this news...


Not a surprise. No one has been able to provide any kind of credible link confirming this quote was said.

It's most likely anti-semitic Arab propaganda similar to the oft-repeated rumor that 4,000 Israelis were warned to stay away from the WTC on 9/11. Where was that baby conured up? The Egyptian state press: Al Ahram.

bombing children with F-16s just for blind retaliation is nothing else than terrorism.

This is bullshit. There was no "blind retaliation" with F-16s deliberately targetting children. This is bullshit. In a complex and pre-planned attack, an Israeli F-16 bombed a Gaza City apartment building to (sucessfully) destroy a wanted and dangerous Palestinian terrorist leader who had been responsilble for the death or injury of hundreds and hundreds of Israeli civilians. Sadly some children living nearby were accidentally killed in the attack. Any belief that they, and not Shahada, the Hamas leader, were the intended targets is a stunning and frightening display of naivette and hate.

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