Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 7:01 am

I am thinking about transferring out of ORD to LAX,SNA,or BUR in the next few years(once I get the money saved up). I have noticed that a lot of you live in that area. What, in your opinion is the best area to live in that's not to long of a drive to the airport and is in a descent neighborhood. Also, I know its expensive so whets the rent like out there for lets say a one or two bedroom apartment.

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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:44 am

Its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than be in the air wishing you were on the ground. Fly safe!
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:49 am

Two more airports you may want to consider are LGB & ONT. Personally if I wanted to moved back into southern CA, I'll go with ONT. Just because I like the area. Real estate there is going up, but still cheaper than anything closer to LAX. Just my opinion. Regards.
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:54 am

I lived near LAX while going to college..
there are a lot of places that are nice to live around LAX
If you want near the beach,
1. Marina del Rey
2 El Segundo
3. Manhattan Beach
4. Venice Beach

If not,
Culver City

Hope this helps...
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 12:06 pm

Of the areas you described, I'd choose south Orange County, near SNA. Spend the extra $$$ to live in a place close by, maybe Newport Beach or Laguna Beach, enjoy the lifestyle.

Whichever base you choose, DO NOT fall for the foolish idea of living any significant distance from the place where you work. The commute and traffic will kill you.

I would not live there again, but I liked it while I was there.
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 1:33 pm

Well if u like military aviation theres alot here at PMD in North LA county. The only thing commercial here is SR Technics upgrading DC-10s to MD-10s plus your near to EDW but it still is a long drive down to the basin to get to BUR, LAX, etc.
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 2:15 pm

Hmmm...I've lived in Los Angeles all 17 years of my life and have mixed feelings about this city really. Really, it is a failed experiment in urbanism (or lack there of) that yielded some pretty amazing results. My favorite areas of the city aren't that close to LA (although it really depends what you consider close, people routinely make commutes that are over an hour long but I couldn't handle that).

Having said that I'd recomend anything north of Santa Monica Blvd from Doheny (the Beverly Hills/W Hollywood border) east to Fairfax. Then anything north of sunset from there all the way east to the 5 freeway in Los Feliz/Silver Lake (all south of Mulholland or what not). This basically encompases the communities of W. Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood Hills, Cahuenga Pass, Los Feliz and Silver Lake. To me these neighborhoods represent the most of what LA is fabeled to be (old Hollywood - not trendy W. LA/Beverly Hills which is rather gross in my opinion). There are lots of palm trees, Spanish revival style houses, and as much of an urban feel as you can get in LA really.

The draw backs are these neighborhoods are probably on the pricier end, some (namely, silver lake, ugh!) are becoming tragically hip. Also these area aren't really close to LAX. They are, but the freeway situation isn't that great, you'd be spending a lot of time on La Cienega, which can get backed up. However, if you worked at BUR and lived in one of these areas you'd be driving to BUR against traffic and coming home against traffic more or less (drive time couldn't be more than half an hour).

OK, well obviously since you're not from LA this probably means nothing, but just trying to help. Umm, Laguna/Newport can be nice and close to SNA...but I couldn't live behind the orange curtain. Santa Monica/Venice are close to LAX but very over-priced. Hermose/Manhattan, etc beaches are closer to LAX and less money...but I would feel too far south of LA.
just my two cents...good luck

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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 2:37 pm

I live in OC. It is a great place to live, but also expensive. After checking out that other link it makes me realize how much greener the grass seems to be on the other side. I for one can't wait until I can move somewhere where the trees naturally grow, where it actually rains once in a while, and where the air isn't pure smog. To be honest, I almost feel trapped in a sea of concrete and cookie cutter houses.

Don't get me wrong, OC is freakin awesome! There's always something to do, including lots and lots of pretty girls; we have a whole ocean less than 20 min away from pretty much anywhere in OC. But some of OC's best points are also some of its worst. I mean the reason we have so many pretty girls is because of the sheer density of the population; the traffic is terrible, and the air is almost never clean unless you live right next to the ocean, in which case corrosion from the salty air is a problem.

All in all, it's a great place to visit and even stay for a few weeks, but living here has it's major downsides. However, I am glad I had the opportunity to grow up in a place like this!
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 4:52 pm

There are a few very nice neighborhoods around LAX, El Segundo is great, and under rated I heard, My Grandpa lives in Westchester, a nice area between the north side of LAX and Loyola University. Anything East slowly becomes gangsterville Big grin There are also some nice new appartment buildings right next to the north runways, so if you really like planes, you might consider an apartment there.  Smile
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sat Oct 12, 2002 5:16 pm

I live now in Argentina since 10 years ago... Born in Santa Monica, and lived most of my adult life in the Los Angeles area, years 1971-1991...
I was JFK based but I commuted from LAX -
One thing I did was quickly move away from the "city" to the suburbs, there you have basically 2 choices - Orange Co. (see above threads) and - Ventura Co... I moved to Thousand Oaks, Ventura Co. Distances are about the equal, to LAX... Took me nearly an hour to drive to LAX as an average... We used to refer "1000 Oaks" as - "1000 Pilots"... in the street, we had basically a pilot respresentative of each airline with operations at LAX...
One community that is quite affordable near Thousand Oaks is the Simi Valley and Moorpark areas (the best kept secret around Los Angeles), lots of condo rentals and apartments there... I would imagine that prices for rentals are about $800 for a 1 bedroom in Simi Valley nowadays, $750 in Moorpark... I am still in touch with friends from that area, they still like it a lot...
A nice statistic about Thousand Oaks and Simi Valley, are listed about the lowest crime communities in the USA... (Lots of LAPD officers reside in... Simi Valley)...
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sun Oct 13, 2002 2:32 am

Thanks to all who replied. Is there anything else I should know about the area?


RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sun Oct 13, 2002 2:58 am

El Segundo, Marina Del Rey or Santa Monica are three charming cities to consider if you want to live near LAX, not to mention Westchester or Playa Del Rey. Try to avoid living directly in Los Angeles, if possible--to much traffic, spread out, and overcrowded. By the way, I'm sick and tired of hearing about smog in Los Angeles. The smog problem here isn't as bad as it used to be, not too mention it's no worse than any other large city. The city has it's share amount of haze that may resemble smog, but it isn't.

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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:22 am

Don't forget these L.A. neighborhoods: Watts, South Central, Echo Park, and Boyle Heights.
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:18 am

While Simi and Moorpark may be a "safe" communities, there is nothing going on there at all. Nothing against the two towns, but if you are younger, those would be among the last two places to locate out here. They are just too far away from everything going on.

Some people mentioned El Segundo--great choice, especially if you want to be right next to LAX. And it's a nice town, too.

I live in Burbank and recommend it highly. It's a great city, clean, safe--with plenty to do. And just over the hill is Hwood, Sunset Strip, West LA.

Burbank's rents vary. I pay 1100 for a one bedroom in the Media Center, there are many places that are less upscale but still perfectly nice around town, some very reasonable apts in the foothills above Burbank. All within a few miles of BUR.

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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:31 am


I agree, I was going to suggest transferring to either BUR or ONT. One, because I love the mountains. I've lived in La Canada, right in the mountains, for many years and love it. Burbank is a great city with a lot to do, relatively clean and low crime rate. Its a great central location, close to Pasadena, Glendale, Downtown L.A., Hollywood, and Santa Monica.

The worst thing about Burbank though is Interstate 5 at rush hour.
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sun Oct 13, 2002 8:25 am

Burbank is really nice too. KBUR is a fun little airport to spend lazy Sunday afternoons at, and the Hills border Burbank to the south and north.
La is a great city, no matter what anyone says, mainly for its variety. You guys can bash all you want. I still have hometown pride.

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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Sun Oct 13, 2002 9:10 am

My vote goes to San Juan Capistrano or Dominguez Hills.

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RE: To Live And Die In L.A.

Mon Oct 14, 2002 7:58 am

Ahhh…Los Angeles, California. I don’t live in L.A. and never have lived in L.A. I can only give you comments from an outside point of view and from someone who has visited and has some family and friends in the area.

To me, Los Angeles represents the absolute best and absolute worst that the United States has to offer. On one hand, it has stunning and diverse scenery (i.e. beaches, mountains, etc.), great weather, diverse culture, beautiful women (I think L.A. has the best-looking girls of any), nice architecture, LAX (in my opinion, THE best airport in the world for the combination of diversity, frequency of movement and spotting) plenty to do and lots and lots of other things that make it worth while. On the flipside, L.A. is home to incredible poverty (I read that it had one of the widest poverty gaps in the nation), horrible traffic, lousy public transportation, racial tension that’s more apparent there than in other major cities, urban sprawl, pollution, lack of community spirit, shallow/superficial attitudes (I don’t know of many other places where an 18 year old girl will date a 32 year old guy…well, actually, I can think of a few more now, but we’re talking about L.A. here), among other things.

The thing about L.A. is that because it is so vast and so diverse, that you can be in part of the city and never really get to experience the bad things of it. You don’t HAVE to go to or through Watts, Echo Park and other not so nice neighborhoods and probably avoid the problems of these neighborhoods altogether. Take that how you’d like; it may be good or bad, depending on your point of view. Good in the sense that you don’t see the ills, but bad in that you’re probably rarely aware that they exist.

L.A. is, in my opinion, the most ethnically diverse city in the country, if not the world. There was another post on here that outlined the ethnic tensions of the city. This is true and they are more pronounced there than in other cities, BUT be aware that L.A. has the highest interracial marriage rate of any western city. That itself is not a bad thing.

People were talking about how expensive L.A. is, and judging by the figures people have been posting up, I’d probably agree with them. It seems to be about as expensive as NYC now, maybe a bit more.

Overall, I like L.A. I wouldn’t move there now, but I’d much prefer to live there than the vast majority of cities of the U.S., or even the world. One thing that really strikes me is the lack of community spirit in general. Maybe it has to do with the fact that there are a thousand cities within the metropolitan area and it is simply too vast. But still...Also, the fact that the NFL doesn’t have a team there is disturbing.

RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Thu Oct 17, 2002 11:33 am

Rai -
You pretty much summed this up! Everything you wrote about LA was right on target.

RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Thu Oct 17, 2002 12:45 pm

Agree with you guys who criticize Simi Valley and Moorpark areas, is just that they are affordable + safe communitites (sleeping quarters) within reach of downtown LA - as everyone lives on the freeways there.
Los Angeles is super good and super bad - lots of things to do - but personally, being a pilot, I love airplanes, but I feel no need to live near an airport... When I lived in LA - went to Thousand Oaks some 40 miles away from LAX because I wanted a quiet safe place - and speaking the truth, I hated the freeways, but I only had to drive to LAX twice or three times monthly... If you work each day this may be a different story...
Whoever moves to LA, welcome - I loved it there, great weather, the smog people talk about does not really exist and, you will sure enjoy... It is a very big city like NYC, but its nature is different - miles and miles and miles...
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Thu Oct 17, 2002 12:49 pm

The smog in L.A. is no worse than it is at any other major city in the United States, and is getting much better with all the clean air and clean emissions laws constantly being passed in CA.
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RE: Living In Los Angeles/ Orange County

Fri Oct 18, 2002 5:01 am

Why on earth would anyone want to live in Cluver City? I hear their new slogan to attract tourism is "We're not just for taggers anymore." I mean, in Culver City if you're out after dark, you should go ahead and spray paint a giant target on your chest.

Don't forget Inglewood or Little Saigon (Westmenster). Both are lovely places to live...

The freeways aren't that bad, the commute sucks, but in all honesty, where can you drive 80 mph on a 7 lane freeway in bumper to bumper traffic?

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