JETPILOT
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My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:36 am

Quoted text from my post "how to catch a sniper" 10/15/2002....

QUOTE "I would think that someone like this would be relatively easy to close in on.

This guy was trained somewhere. He's proffesional and to confident to have never done this before.

He must use special equipment that he purchased somewhere.

My guess is that he's using an AR15. My reasoning? They sell some pretty insane customized AR15 varmint guns that are scary in accuracy. Flash suppressors which are illegal now were readilly available. If he's ever cornered he's got a fully automatic asault weapon to outgun police with.

See :www.bushmaster.com

There are few AR15 customizers. Pay a visit to every person on the customizers lists." END QUOTE

Well it turns out this guy was using a Bushmaster XM-15 Rifle A-3. They traced this guy through the purchase of the weapon.

He was a military trained expert marksman.

You guys have to give me credit for calling this......  Big thumbs up

JET
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:39 am

It is pretty impressive. Maybe a career change is in order - how does FBI chief sound? Big grin
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:41 am

I could of swore CNN said he wasn't trained as a sniper
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:43 am

JET, nice work.. FBI cheif hmm...

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:43 am

Not really, he was never trained in sniping. He did have M16 training though.


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JETPILOT
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:45 am

He wasn't a sniper.... he was an "expert marksman"

I think the term sniper has been thrown around loosley as he wasn't actually a sniper but stalked his prey in the same manner as a sniper would have.

JET
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:55 am

Reports I see indicate that he was caught by a fingerprint and shooting his mouth off a bit about stuff that wasn't released. But then I got this off Fox News and they aren't really all that interested in facts from what I have seen.

But in all honesty Jetpilot, I see a few Generalisations which are correct from you but the other facts no where close  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Maybe you could get a show like Crossing over with John Edwards

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:45 am

The XM-15 is the civilian version of the M16. So it is obvious to make a connection between Army gun training, and the sniper.
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:53 am

 
JETPILOT
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:13 am

Flyguy1... how was I supposed to know he was trained in the military when I posted my assumtions? So how can a connection be drawn?

My assumtion he was using an AR15 was the fact that itwas a .223 caliber can be customized to be very accurate.

JET
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:44 am

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy why would we need a purpose for a civilianised M16 ?
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:47 am

They are simply fun little guns to shoot.

I wish I could afford one. They are not cheap.
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:51 am

OH I just want to remind everybody to make sure that they celebrate National Ammunition Day Nov 19th.

All you have to do is make sure that you pick up a box of ammo.

Support your rights!!!
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:22 am

JETPILOT:

Too bad you, about another million people, and about every news station shared your theory... I bet a lot of other a.net members thought the same way you did... don't take credit for something like this...
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:32 am

Assault weapons should be banned. They are clearly a threat to national security. There is no need for anyone to have the weapon this shithead had.

Anyone think he was a Muslim?

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:39 am

Anyone think he was a Muslim?

Yup...me, but I didn't think he'd be black.
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:40 am

Jcxp15.... sorry to have insulted you and the other million people and the news agencies.... thing is that I didn't listen to the news, or the other million people.

I drew my own conclusions.... and you know what? I was right.

JET

This gun isn't considered an assult weapon under ATF guidlines.

Why should I be banned from owning one because some crazy decided to kill people with it....

Wheres the sense in that.

JET
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:47 am

"He must use special equipment that he purchased somewhere."

Of course he purchased it from somewhere.
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:53 am

When you take things out of context you change the meaning. The point of the statement "He must use special equipment that he purchased somewhere." was meant to indicate that he has a left a trail.

Someone always seems to suprise me with a lower level of stupidity than I have previously experienced.

Thanks Dash8King.......  Nuts

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:31 pm

There is no such thing as an "assault rifle". It is just a slang term.

The only thing that laws that suppose to ban them do is band ugly (as in physical appearance) weapons.

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:57 pm

"Anyone think he was a Muslim?"

I knew this would happen. The piece of sh*t has his last name "Muhammad." That's all the Muslims need, a crazy ass wacko, as if the publicity isn't bad enough. He was Nation of Islam, too. Major differences.

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:22 pm

Sniper...Dead on Accurate.

Is this another innuendo thread???  Smile
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:46 pm

I believe you take the bar for being the stupid one for thinking you are special because you called what a million others did. I also called that he bought the gun as opposed to finding it or stealing it.
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:12 pm

An assault rifle is classified as one having a folding stock, a bayonet mount, a flash suppressor, and maybe a few other things I'm unaware of.

That's why the AR15 carbine with the folding stock is illegal. It comes under the assault weapon ban.

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:06 pm

How many people have folding stocks killed?

Not one. Existing ones where also not required to be removed from rifles, that is one of the reasons you can double the price of a Post-ban rifle to get an approximation of a pre-ban price.

How many drive by bayonetings have there been???

I don't know, All I know is that my SKS had the bayonet removed because it was made in China and therefore it was considered an assault weapon. To this day I can get a newly imported Russian or Yugoslavian SKS and it will have the Bayonet still attached. Shoot the Yugo's don't even bother to remove the hardware from theirs since they are military surplus new-old stock.

How many crimes has the removal of the Bayonet on my SKS prevented? Not one. I still have the bayonet attach hardware on my 1903A3 and my Enfield SMLE MKIII. I have the feeling that removing that hardware isn't going to prevent any crimes either. BTW, both of those weapons have their roots pre-WWI

I don't think any crimes have been prevented with the flash hider anyway, Besides if I wanted the look of a flash suppressor on a rifle I could go ahead and get a "recoil suppressor" which is an almost identical piece of metal, except it helps reduce recoil but it functions simularly.

I don't know of any crimes that were prevented by the folding stock law, they just managed to make it much more difficult to carry a survival weapon in a small aircraft nose compartment or to back away.

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:09 pm

And actually if I wanted to I could get a new build folding stock AR-15 but it would be a Class III weapon.

And how many crimes would be prevented by me going through all of that Class III licensing requirement, which includes a $250 tax, heavy restrictions and fingerprinting of me?

Not one, All that money spent and not one crime would have been prevented.

Think about it.
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:44 pm

FSP:

I was under the impression Muslims were those who believed in the "5 pillars":

1) Shahada: belief in one god: Allah... "Declaration of Faith"
2) Zakat: Belief that all of the world belongs to Allah
3) Ramadan: the one month fast
4) Salat: Praying 5 times daily:
5) Hajj: trip to mecca once a lifetime.

The Nation of Islam believes in the 5 Pillars - so aren't they Muslims? Whats the difference?

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:48 pm

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.

I can't take credit for that above, it was William S. Burroughs
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 4:33 pm

Why should I be banned from owning one because some crazy decided to kill people with it....

Why should I be banned from walking onto an airplane without going through a security check because some crazy decided to kill people with it?

Why should I be banned from driving 155 miles per hour on a highway I pay taxes for because some crazy killed people doing it?

Why should I be banned from drinking and driving after a night at the bars because some crazy killed people doing it?

and on and on. Laws are made to protect people's lives because not everyone is as good as you and me. Sadly - but thats life. Better than living in chaos (or Afghanistan).

TNNH
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:50 pm

I think we should make Alaska "The Gun State". There, we can repeal all gun laws and see how stuff works. Plus gun enthusiasts could go there on vacation, and the NRA could be headquartered there.

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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:14 pm

Maybe JETPILOT, you're in CAHOOTS with this guy.  Big thumbs up

just kidding, very impressive.
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Sat Oct 26, 2002 2:16 pm

No JETPILOT, I meant after catching him, it is easy to see the connection. This helps prove the case, sorry for the misunderstanding..
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Sat Oct 26, 2002 3:04 pm

 Big thumbs up FFFFFFIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Sat Oct 26, 2002 6:43 pm

I remember reading somewhere... "This guys isnt a sniper. Nor would he even be ranked as a sharp shooter. More likely a marksmen, if that"! I really hate how the media can dub a certian issue, situation, or location so stupidly. Like Ground Zero. Everyone I know that was effected including myself and family call it the World Trade Center site. In D.C. My dad lives 3 blocks or so away from a killing which was hitting very close to home. We dubed this guy "the bastard". I find it funny how the media uses one standard term, while others effected by the situation address the issue differently. This maybe off topic. but hey something to talk about non the less!

By the way. I am impressed with your profiling ability for damn sure!

Cheers!
 
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RE: My Sniper Profile Was Dead On Accurate....

Sat Oct 26, 2002 6:57 pm

Actualy I think I was the one that said he, if military, probably had never shot above Marksman....clearly I was wrong.
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