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Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 6:13 am

One of our customers from the US came in today and they asked me to name a country that


1) is being run by one party from top to bottom

2) Has a head of state who is not in the top ten of well liked leaders

3) the population has elected them in a 'fair' vote

4) Has weapons of mass destruction

5) Is willing to use them




I thought this was a loaded question so i answered very carefully 'You want me to say Iraq'



'No' was the reply. 'Its the US'. with that he turned and walked out of the store.

Is this man disillusioned with the latest election results?
 
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 6:22 am

Obviously an angry, bitter, lonely, sad, broken man. Hope he has a nice trip to the UK!

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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 7:02 am

Hey, I agree with the guy who said that. Smart man.

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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 7:05 am

Hes talking about the UK is he not?
 
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 7:09 am


First I want to say that I'm totally behind the US in the Iraq question. Saddam Hussein is a dangerous man who needs to be disarmed.

But:

The US man in the UK is right.

The US has weapons of mass destruction. What do you think Bush would say if Hussein demanded UN inspectors in the US?

And:
US is the only land that has used nuclear weapons against an enemy.

Again, I'm not supporting terrorists or terrorist states. This is just something I've been thinking about.

 
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 7:58 am

4) Has weapons of mass destruction

5) Is willing to use them


Oh come on, this is such bullshit.

Under the right circumstances, every country with WMDs is "willing to use them".


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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 8:07 am

I hate how countries are judged solely based on their governments. You know us Americans, we're out to get the world with our nukes. As a matter of fact, I have one in the back of my truck  Yeah sure. Do people hear what they're saying sometimes? However, I do agree with #1, 'tis not a good thing when there is one set of ideas dominating the gov't. I like the days when we had one party controlling the executive branch and the other major controlling congress. Perhaps a reincarnation of the Whig party to keep the GOPs in check, seeing that somehow the Dems have died?  Laugh out loud

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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 8:12 am

1) is being run by one party from top to bottom

your little friend forgot about his third grade lesson on a concept called "checks & balances" and in particular these guys who sit in a building in washington called a "supreme court"



 
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 8:19 am

Yeah but atleast we don't have a Queen and Royal family, this butler is making them look bad.

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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 9:29 am

Yeah but atleast we don't have a Queen and Royal family, this butler is making them look bad.

But it's the queen and the royal family that bring in millions of american and japanese tourists here.  Big grin
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 10:22 am

Oh yes Arsenal, we all come to England to see the Queens excellent fashion sense.
 
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 10:30 am

Well, these fools better watch what they say in front of us, they might not get a pleasant reaction.

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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 10:49 am

Well....I'm sure Bush would go to war the minute the UN lets him  Big grin
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 2:54 pm

Actually, if Saddam really has weapons of
mass destruction, it would be very unwise to
try and target Iraq.
Imagine what would happen if Bush bombs
a nucliar facility or a chemical/biological
weapns plant.
The interesting part is that at this time none
of Iraqs neighbors actually think Iraq or Saddam
is posing them a danger anymore.
Why is it just Bush pushing for this war?
Whatever that is I won't subscribe to anything.

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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 3:19 pm

TWANeedsHelp, the (Republican) Supreme Court you think is so great is the instrument that put Bush in the White House, despite losing the popular vote by 1,000,000 and possibly losing Florida as well. So much for "checks and balances".

Anyway Iraq is not perceived as a threat by any of it's neighbours, the Kuwaiti foreign minister and the Iraqi foreign minister hugged at the most recent Arab League conference in Beirut and Iraq's old enemy Iran is coming aboard the Good Ship Saddam as well. Not to say Saddam is a nice guy or whatever but he's hardly the world's no 1 threat. Not even in the Top 10, I mean North Korea has the BOMB for god's sake and all we know about Saddam is he MIGHT have a few of the chemicals Mr Rumsfeld and Mr Cheney sold him in the 80s under Reagan / George I.

Meanwhile an assortment of Bin Laden's lot killed 3,000 Americans (and others) and have since caused some more destruction and nothing much is being done about that, but George II (with help from The Poodle) is hell-bent on making yet more enemies for America, which isn't a bad place at all, and is packed with kind, hard-working people who don't deserve a foreign policy that makes the rest of the world hate them.
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 3:58 pm

How did the freaking supreme court put Bush in the white house? He won Florida, and thus won the majority of votes in the electoral college!!!!!

The supreme court told Florida that they'd have to recount all the votes in the state, not just those in the dem leaning counties if they wanted to have a recount at all, and the state elected not to. You LOST!!!!!!!!! Give it up already. The fact that there was no recount doesn't change the fact that Bush won.

And how can you say nothing is being done on the war on terror? The terrorists have effectively been kicked out of Afghanistan, but they've dispersed. The world is a big place, and one person is impossible to find when it mingles among 6 billion and may even be obliterated beyond anything that even resembles a human corpse for all we know. The way to measure our success in the war on terror is by looking at how many attacks terrorists have successfully carried out on US soil, not biting nails over weather or not Mr. X or Mr y is still alive or not. Guess what? There haven't been any more al Qaida attacks on US soil since the war on terror began. So we're winning, and winning decisively I might add.

PS: Bush's goal is a regime change in Iraq. What is wrong with this? I think almost everyone in the world would like to see Saddam out of power, it benefits trade, politics, and human rights among other things. If bush can figure out a way to do this with minimal loss of life and in a minimum amount of time, he should go for it. I trust him enough to hope he won't do something stupid; he won't make his move until he knows he can get it done quickly, decisively, and precisely.
 
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 7:29 pm

I might add that he did say it with a smile on his face.
Personally i dont give a monkeys what Saddam has or hasnt got. I dont believe for one minute, that most states don't have chemical weapons somewhere. Its the propoesed use of them. Besdies a few thoughts.
If there is a war.
The purpose would be to destroy the sites... Yes?

how can anybody catergorically say that by doing so IT WILL NOT RELEASE INTO THE AIR the very same viruses that they are trying to destroy, thus killing millions of people?


Another point. and this for the UK section readers
If, as Blair has said, along with mr 94IQ, if the UN stop short of war, he will go in anyway, do they realise that, as he has signed up the UK to the ICC, that all of our armed forces could be tried in the ICC court?
Of course, the US are smart. they didnt sign.......

Makes you think though.... and some good points raised
 
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 7:56 pm

You know, reading that topic.

I can't help but wonder if those where the rabbleings of a distraught Scotsman named Neil.
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Sun Nov 10, 2002 11:54 pm

LOL! Yes, that is the reason we got to the UK...to see the Royal Family! Hil-arious!

The man in the shop is right. But, as far as having WMD and "willing to use them." Why else would you have them if you were not willing to use them? And I don't think the US would be too worried about UN weapons inspectors inspecting us. It's pretty obvious we have what we have and where it is.

IMHO, our real problem is our war mongering President. He is all too ready to send troops off to war without having ever served in one himself.

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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Mon Nov 11, 2002 1:33 am

The interesting part is that at this time none
of Iraqs neighbors actually think Iraq or Saddam
is posing them a danger anymore.


WTF? Are you out of your mind? The Arab world is very concerned about Iraq - they know hes a terrible danger, they just continue to dither and preoccupy themselves with uncertainty on how to remove this catastrophic danger.

the Kuwaiti foreign minister and the Iraqi foreign minister hugged at the most recent Arab League conference

Your really an idiot if you think that means anything in middle east politics.

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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:09 am

I wil just address this statement.... is being run by one party from top to bottom

The fact that the Republicans received a huge victory at the polls does not negate the fact that almost half the country is opposed to them -- the balance of power is quite thin, indeed. But the winner always gets to "run" the country.

How is this different from Europe? The parliamentary system gives the head of state function to the leader of the majority party -- thus, they run the government from "top to bottom" in that respect. If anything, the parliamentary system blurs the distinction between the legislative and executive branches, as the cabinet is composed of people chosen by the majority party leader. At least in the US, the people vote for these two branches separately.

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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:51 am

1) is being run by one party from top to bottom
Wrong. GOP only has a slim majority. In fact, I believe its tighter than ever.

2) Has a head of state who is not in the top ten of well liked leaders
Is this just an opinion? Where's the data?

3) the population has elected them in a 'fair' vote
It was fair. If you don't like that, ask your Congressman to lobby to change the Constitution.

4) Has weapons of mass destruction
No doubt about that. Go ahead and let the UN inspectors in. What treaty did we sign that mandated we don't have them?

5) Is willing to use them
As mentioned, what country with them isn't willing under certain circumstances?
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RE: Interesting Observation By A US Citizen In UK

Mon Nov 11, 2002 9:42 am

Could Bush be going after Saddam to divert attention from the fact that he hasn't been able to get Bin Laden.
He should stick to one at a time!
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