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What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 2:17 pm

Hey !

I have been living in Canada, studying at McGill for 3 months now... I fell in love with this country.
I'd like to ask to the canadian members how they like their country? What make you feel canadian (besides what Joe said in the Molson Ad  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )

Im waiting for your answers!

Cheers !

Louis, @ YUL

 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 2:38 pm

This Does...click on the link. C C C...Cold
http://www.pbase.com/image/7365592
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 2:56 pm

wrong forum ,try non-aviation
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 2:58 pm

YEGPIX: Brrrr!! That's nasty!!
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sat Nov 16, 2002 4:27 pm

Yep! LOL, We Canadians are tough and that pic is proof of it! You know...outdoor hockey,etc. We spend lots of money yearly on winter clothing too! Kinda helps the economy though.  Big grin
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 12:32 am

Louis,

I grew up Canada..... having lived there from age 9 through 30. My best definition of a Canadian is "Not American"

Even though he may look like one, act like one, spend $ like one, talk like one (except for "eh?" and "aboot") .... still, he will feel a bit superior. Why, you may ask? Because, he will explain, Canada had no Civil War, no (or very few) race riots, has universal health insurance, never invaded another country (except for St. Lucia, every winter!), and has tougher gun controls.

Now, to be serious .... I graduated from McGill in 1971, in Mechanical Engineering. If you get a chance, please write a few words about your experiences at McGill and Montreal. Do you live on campus, or in the "student ghetto"? I think it's a fine university, in fact, world class. In my opinin, you made the right choice.

Cheers,
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 12:39 am

Yep! LOL, We Canadians are tough and that pic is proof of it! You know...outdoor hockey,etc. We spend lots of money yearly on winter clothing too! Kinda helps the economy though.

I know all about it! I grew up in Edmonton. That pic just brings back some bitterly cold memories!
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 12:51 am

Hearing people in other parts of the world complain about +5C being 'really cold'.  Smile

I probably think of myself as a Manitoban as often as I do as a Canadian; Canada really is more of a 'community of communities' than a nation-state.

Most of all, I'm just me.
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:25 am

Thanks for your answer guys.

Sorry for not having posted it on non aviation. I was a little bit tired when i posted it  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Louis
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:27 am

I have a Canaidan friend. His IQ is 100, which is only 60 in Canada.  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 5:09 am

As a wannabe Canadian living "in exile" in the US, I guess my love of Canada has to do with the people, and the general overall way of life that is similar, but slightly different. I like how the government lets people make up their own mind, and doesn't have this naïve view of things, like alcohol (I'm sorry, but I'm convinced the US wouldn't have nearly the problems we have with alcohol if he didn't treat it as such a bad thing that only "responsible" people over the arbitrary age of 21 can enjoy). In Québec, the age is 18, and from what I can see, the only drunk people stumbling down Rue Ste. Catherine at 1AM are American teenagers returning from the bars sh*tfaced! I'm not saying that there aren't drunk "jeunes québécois" in there too, but I've felt plenty embarrassed being in Montréal and feeling I need to apologize for the behaviour of others.

I also like your government. No matter how much Canadians complain about Chrétien, I'd trade governments anyday. I find myself more often in agreement with the Canadian government than that of my own.

I love the "joie de vivre" of Montréal and I would love to be a part of it one day...so long as Québec remains a part of a Québec. If all goes to plan, I would like to emigrate to Canada within 4-5 years.

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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 5:24 am

I probably felt most Canadian when I lived in the US. I missed so many little "Canadian things" that eventually I came home.

Having said that, Canada is not nirvana. We have ALOT of problems as a country and I am very critical of many aspects of Canadian life. Some of the solutions lie in emulating the US model, some don't. This does not make me less Canadian.

Perhaps, in some ways, a weird yet wonderful aspect of being Canadian is the ability to the travel to the US and blend in immediately....no one would have a clue you were Canadian until you told them.
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 6:53 am

And Flight152 shows his mastery of using other peoples (Jay Leno) jokes.

Brilliant...
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 6:58 am

I drink lots of beer and listen to Rush. the rock group

When I was a kid, we lived in Montreal for a short period of time. I visit Canada as much as I can. It's a cheap getaway.  Smile


Yyz717:
Do you want to switch countries? Big grin
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 8:19 am

Yyz717:
Do you want to switch countries?


Sometimes Superfly I do. A merger of the 2 countries would not offend me. Although I would have to live in a liberal area.....such as your CA.

Regards
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 9:39 am

LOL... the word "Canadian" is also used to describe people other than those from Canada. Just a little heads up to watch how you talk in some areas of the U.S Big grin
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 1:51 pm

-Hockey
-snowmobiling
-beautiful senery
-arctic
-Arctic Wildlife
-O Canada
-The Canada goose
-the Twin Otter and Dash-8
- -40C weather
-etc. etc.
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:27 pm

All I can say is:




WOW!!!



We love Canadians Big grin

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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:32 pm

This subject is very interesting to me. Over the last 15 years, I have talked to many Canadians about the situation with Quebec. Almost to a person they have said that they wish that Quebec would just go ahead and secede from Canada.

Most of them believe that the financial uncertainty with Quebec constantly holding referendums about independence is responsible for the economic problems Canada has faced the last 15 years. Several of them have said that the western provinces are more interested in developing trade with the U.S. them with Quebec, because they believe that sooner or later Quebec will go it's own way.

I remember a documentary filmed during the Meach Lake debates. In it provincial politicians from all over Canada were asked what would happen if Quebec seceded. The ones from the eastern provinces said that they would be applying for U.S. statehood almost immediately. The ones from the western provinces said that they would make a go of it for a few years and then ask to join the U.S. also. Recently, I visited with several Canadians from Alberta who were visiting family here in the states. I was surprised when I was told that a large percentage of western Canadians immigrated from the U.S. during the Depression and still have close family here. Also, I was reading one of the books written about how Gander handled all the people on 9/11. One of the people stranded there was a "Newfie" (which is how they refer to themselves) who hadn't been back since he immigrated to the U.S. in the early 50's. He tells the story that in the 1950 referendum on staying part of Great Britain or joining Canada, a large percentage of the population wanted the choice of joining the U.S. on the ballot.

All in all, the impression that I have gotten over the last 20 years is that most Canadians do not have a deep seated national identity burned into them. I could be wrong, and I don't mean to offend anyone. However, I have yet to meet a Canadian who is passionate about their national identity. It is like they treat it like it was unimportant. Just my 2 cents

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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:39 pm

Staggerwing: Beware! I think you've just opened the floodgates!
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:51 pm

Well, as an American, who has visited Canada a few times---once for a hockey tournament, and the other times to ski---the thing that defines Canada as a nation is one thing, and one thing alone.......Hockey Night in Canada! I find it tremendously interesting, Staggerwing, that the provinces would consider applying for statehood if Quebec was ever to secede....and believe it or not...I could see it happening. I have never been into Western Canada, the furthest west I have gone was Thunder Bay. But I saw that at least people in Ontario seemed to care about being Canadian, and were really proud whenever they beat an American team at the hockey tournament. But as a counter point, one of my good buddies from high school in Atlanta was from Ottawa and lived there until he was 12 or 13...the kid embraced America more than I did! As for Alberta...I envision it as a state like Minnesota, and B.C. being a state more like Washington. As for Sask. and Manitoba...they are probably like the Dakotas. Hey, western provinces...we'll let you in U.S. just as long as you can learn pronounce your words correctly and give us some more oil too while youre at it! Big grin
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:59 pm

As for Alberta...I envision it as a state like Minnesota, and B.C. being a state more like Washington. As for Sask. and Manitoba...they are probably like the Dakotas.

You're spot on! I grew up in Alberta and I'd say it's a combination of Texas, Colorado and Minnesota all rolled up into one. Calgary is a mixture of Dallas and Denver. Sask. is definitely like the Dakotas. And Manitoba? I don't know how to describe it.
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Sun Nov 17, 2002 4:42 pm

What makes me feel Canadian? The Maple Leaf tattooed on my shoulder!
I love visiting Canada. Everyone is so open and warm. I have never been anywhere else except Vancouver. I think their money is cool too! That two dollar coin takes some getting used to, but I like it! Stay independant! This place would not be the same without you! Big grin
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 12:10 am

I love their money too seb , its absolutely gorgeous , especially the newer 5 and 10 dollar billd. The coins are beautiful...but by the end of my stay I was begining to get annoyed with a pocketful of large coins...its handy for tipping and such but kind of bulky.
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:26 am

Rai wrote: "And Manitoba? I don't know how to describe it."

Manitoba is essentially midwestern -- it's not really 'western' at all. It's more like Minnesota or Wisconsin in some respects: politically moderate/pragmatic, not as alienated as places further west, a manufacturing economy and so on.

It's also the most Ontario-like of the four provinces in mindset.

Staggerwing wrote: "...most Canadians do not have a deep seated national identity burned into them."

I'd agree with that. As I mentioned above, Canada is more of a 'community of communities' than a nation-state, even though former prime minister Joe Clark was often criticised when he publicly said so.

One reason for this is the lack of a national ideology: there is no common cause. Canadians have always been a diverse bunch of people who realised they had more to gain by tolerating each others' differences just well enough to keep the country together. I think it's this mindset that makes Canada one of the more socially liberal countries around.

Another reason is that Canada is a decentralised federation, characterised by strong provincial governments. It's not unusual in Canada to see a federal prime minister and a provincial premier bargaining one-on-one, as equals. Sometimes a prime minister can even find a distant premier more menacing (e.g., Brian Mulroney vs. Clyde Wells, Jean Chrétien vs. Ralph Klein) than the Leader of the Opposition sitting just a few feet away in the House of Commons.

That said, all these differences and the relative lack of conformist pressure make Canada a more interesting place to live than it would be if we had a more powerful national identity.
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:41 am

Canadians have always been a diverse bunch of people who realised they had more to gain by tolerating each others' differences just well enough to keep the country together.

Not really true. Canada today is about 93% white. Just 30 years ago it was 98% white. We are not really that diverse. English Canada remains a largely anglo-saxon entity (British, German, Dutch) with large assimilated Italian & Ukrainian communities. The large non-white communities are really only seen in YYZ and YVR. Quebec is even more uni-cultural although YUL (like YYZ and YVR) has alot of minorities.
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 2:19 am

Neil: I was thinking more along the lines of the historical linguistic and regional differences that still flare up from time to time.
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 2:36 am

Fair enough. I consider those to be geographic differences only though. The fact that any Canadian could move to any other part of Canada and feel culturally at home (with the exception of Quebec) suggests to me that we're a pretty uni-cultural country.

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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:13 am

Fair enough. I consider those to be geographic differences only though. The fact that any Canadian could move to any other part of Canada and feel culturally at home (with the exception of Quebec) suggests to me that we're a pretty uni-cultural country.

I agree and disagree with that statement. This is from someone who has lived in more than one place in Canada. When I moved from Edmonton to Toronto, I didn't notice a pretty big difference in people's attitudes, outlook, etc. My sister, who recently moved to Toronto, finds the same thing. It was a bit shocking to both of us. For her, though, it might be that she is in a college campus environment.

However, when I went up to Toronto a few weeks ago, I was in a mostly suburban environment and I found the attitudes to be a bit different than those living downtown or in the main city.

I think peoples' attitudes (not so much cultural, but outlook) varies a bit throughout Canada (Alberta and Quebec may be starky different, however), but not as much as you see in the U.S. So, with that point, I'd agree.

Then again, you might not be referring to something as specific as one's outlook...
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:34 am

Instead of baiting about how contrary Canada is to the USA,
why not cite the real distinctions of Canada and it's people:


(these are my own observations as a visitor)
1) Canadian people are introspective and thoughful.
2) Canadian cities are very worldy and cultured reflecting a diverse set of ideas representing the eptiome of order, cleanliness and culture.
3) Canada have some of the most beautiful scenery, waterways and mountains. Of note is the beauty of the Maritime provinces with its quaint villages, gregarious people and beautiful waterways and coasts.
4) Canada prides itself on charity and humaity by participating in many relief and peace keeping efforts.
5) Canada strives to the ideals of moderation in it's role as a world power.
6) Canada prides itself on its concept of justice, both in criminal law and social issues.
7) Canada is a beautiful place for vactioning offering a wide variety of activities from nightlife in Vancouver, the Calgary Stampede rodeos, museums and symphony in Toronto and Ottowa, European flair and influence of Quebec and the timelessness of the Maritimes especially places like Moncton, Shediak, Halifax and New Brunswick). Niagara Falls, one of the most beautiful places on Earth is shared with the US.
8) Canada is home of the CN Tower, one of the tallest structures in North America. Canada has a sophisticated transit system based on RailCanada, BNSF and Air Canada.
9) the RCMP/GRU is one of the oldest and most respected law enforcement agencies in the world.

I am an American, but my love of Canada runs very deep. I have travelled there many times since childhood (my first trip on a plane outside the US was to Ottowa). I have spent much time in Toronto, Quebec and Ottowa both for business and pleasure. When I lived in California during the 80's my self and friends would often fly up to Vancouver on the weekends to take in the sites, great restaurants and nite life. Of all the places I have been too, Canada is my favorite to visit. It is wonderful having a country with such interesting people and beautiful places so close by. We are alike in many ways, but so different as well.

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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:19 pm

I personnally am Quebecer, say what you want about that. I am not proud of being Quebecer, I am not proud at all, I am just myself.

I personnally like the scenery, the trains, the airplanes, the women, the food.

Je me souviens...

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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 1:39 pm

I personnally am Quebecer, say what you want about that. I am not proud of being Quebecer, I am not proud at all, I am just myself.

I actually that that's the right attitude to have. It's national/religious pride that is the source of most of the problems of the world. Why can't people just mind their own business and live their own lives?
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 2:03 pm

Canadian people are introspective and thoughful

I don't suppose you are familiar with a guy named Don Cherry? Big grin
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 2:09 pm

I don't suppose you are familiar with a guy named Don Cherry?

Damn! You had to remind me! That's one of the things I actually miss about Canada!
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Wed Nov 20, 2002 8:58 pm

Hmmm, what makes me feel Canadian? Well, besides all the Canadian coins floating around Crapchester, I would have to say listening to the EPIC Don Cherry interviews on the Jim Rome Show, and the Canadian inter-boarder skirmishes also on the Jim Rome Show.

In the words of Gordon from Taronta, F-Ottawa, F-Quebec, F-Montreal, F-Vancuver, and F-everyone other Canadian city/Province he insulted yesterday!
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Fri Nov 22, 2002 10:20 am

What Make You Feel Canadian? "O canada" and -25 C
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Fri Nov 22, 2002 1:01 pm

Shania Twain-sounds like dogs caught in a wine press and dresses like "The Nanny"
 
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RE: What Make You Feel Canadian?

Fri Nov 22, 2002 2:19 pm

Great quote in this week's MacLean's :

"A Canadian is an unarmed American with health insurance" Big grin
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