JBLUA320
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Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:32 am

All things considered, you could typically work at 14... limited.

I want to get a job this summer so I can make some extra money, just to have around (ya never know) and was curious to know if anything at the airport is available that a fourteen year old could do.

I would anticipate no.. but I was curious to know anyway.

If not, there is always Acme  Smile

Anyway, tata. Thanks for the help!

-JBLU

[PS: The airport would be EWR(I have train access from my hometown)...or MMU if they actually do anything there]
 
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:39 am

The Youngest you have to be to get ANY job at ANY airport is 18. Due to insurance and liability purposes.
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:44 am

I think 16 is the minimium age and anyways i with most companies reducing their workforce i doubt they will be hiring that many people and will probably look for experienced older guys.
 
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:48 am

When I was 14 I applied for a summer job at my local airport (Westchester County (HPN)). I was turned down and told to re-apply later. I did last year and I got a job when I was 16.
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 6:09 am

Sorry to make this a little personal, but I have a follow up question.

If someone is over 16 (17) and wants a summer job at an airport, where exactly would they go to find one? Additionally, aren't there union limitations?
 
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 7:06 am

You might have a hard time getting hired at McDonald's at age 14. Drop by your school counselors office and ask about summer work permits. If you are under age 16 it is pretty much impossible to work, unless your state has work permits for underaged kids. You'd be better off mowing lawns and doing stuff around the neighborhood for extra bucks. Real work sucks... enjoy being a kid while you can.
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 7:30 am

It might not be legal for you to work at 14. Where I live, you could only work at 15 with the signed consent of a parent, at 16 without it.

An exception might be made if you were able to do something as an unpaid volunteer or intern, though even then it might be tough to find someone willing to take a chance on a 14-year-old. You wouldn't make any money doing it, but might get a letter of reference out of it or meet someone willing to pull some strings on your behalf later.
 
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 7:47 am

The Youngest you have to be to get ANY job at ANY airport is 18. Due to insurance and liability purposes.

Hmm.. I don't think so, coz I got myself a job with Burger King at Changi Airport Terminal 2 when I was 14. I looked really really young then and one of the tourist even asked my manager if I was a child labour or something..

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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:34 am

Thanks for the adivce. More or less what I was expecting.

What New Jersey has in mind for working laws, atleast recently, allowed 12 year olds to work under regulated circumstances, so 14 shouldnt be as strict.

And to Airbus A380, I would anticipate that the laws regarding Singapore vary than the laws here in the US.

Thanks For the Help
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:38 am

Legally, 14 is too young to work. But if there's any way you can maybe perform some odd jobs from people you know then go for it. You just have to do it in a way whereby the govt. doesn't know you're performing labor in exchange for some kind of compensation. In other words, you have to get a job where you don't pay taxes.  Smile
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:37 am

Tricki- Are you sure?

My high school said I could get my working papers at 14 and work in a variety of places (legally) if I wanted to??

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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 11:40 am

I got hired at Arby's when I was 15, you just have restrictions on how many hours you can work and how late (I think it was 7pm on weekdays).
 
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 11:46 am

Well, from what I remember, I started caddying when I was going into my freshman year at highschool. That was one of the few jobs you could do then at that age (come to think of it, I think I was making around $350 a week; thats about what I was doing towing banners too. It was damned good money at the time)

It's hard work, but you'd be outdoors and enjoying those New Jersey summers (don't know where you were, but I spent last summer in the Cape May area, and unless you were on the beach, the heat and humidity SUCKED)

Check with any country clubs nearby if they have a caddy program. One of the many benefits, in addition to getting that great caddy tan, is there is a college scholarship available to caddies as well.

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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 12:51 pm

JBLUA320,

Maybe it depends on the state you live in. I know that there are restrictions here in Illinois on the working age. I remember I didn't get hired until I was 16. You may want to talk to your school counselor about it a little more. It might be one of those situations that only allows you to work in a certain place, being employed by a particular employer that has limitations on your responsibilites.

Make sure and double check with the proper people.
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 12:52 pm

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Hmm.. I don't think so, coz I got myself a job with Burger King at Changi Airport Terminal 2 when I was 14. I looked really really young then and one of the tourist even asked my manager if I was a child labour or something..

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No kidding!! When I went there, the crew at Burger King averaged about "Secondary 3 and up" age!

Perhaps the next time I pass through Terminal 2 for a drink before I go, I'll ask for you Big grin

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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:21 pm

My friend works for UA, and she says I could get a job as a fueler and plane washer... not for UA, of course, but at SDL.
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:23 pm

Ishak doesn't work at Burger King anymore. Nelson, you worked at A&W at 15, if I'm not wrong?

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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:28 pm

Yup. That place was so badly managed in terms of management.

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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:32 pm

i worked at kroger when i was 15, they took advantage of me!
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:37 pm

Try asking around at smaller FBO's...I dont think an airport like EWR would hire a 14 year old, but at smaller airports and FBO's its a possibility...

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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 2:28 pm

i worked at kroger when i was 15, they took advantage of me!

AA61hvy,
I'm pretty sure you're referring to work-related stuff right? And not... you know... something else?  Big grin
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:23 pm

I work at Kroger currently, pay is crap, but it's a nice place to work at.
 
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 2:39 am

haha! yeah trickijedi, it was all work related, they would work me past certain hours, and before certain hours and paid me below minimum wage. i was dumb and didnt pay attention.
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 2:58 am

This is really pissing me off. Here in USA if you are 14 and work in not hazardous job its ok. But rest of the world is using kids to work for them and they call it "Child Labor". Few months ago I created over 500 CDs for Bureau Of Labor Statistics to present them on Child Labor International Meeting. USA look so good compared to other countries. Everything is BS. Here is some part you can download and read for yourself about Child Labor in general.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/rylf/rylfhome.htm

What is the youngest age at which a person can be employed?

The FLSA sets 14 as the minimum age for most non-agricultural work. However, at any age, youths may deliver newspapers; perform in radio, television, movie, or theatrical productions; work in businesses owned by their parents (except in mining, manufacturing or hazardous jobs); perform babysitting or perform minor chores around a private home. Also, at any age, youth may be employed as homeworkers to gather evergreens and make evergreen wreaths.

Different age requirements apply to the employment of youth in agriculture.

Many states have enacted child labor laws, some of which may have a minimum age for employment which is higher than the FLSA. Where both the FLSA and state child labor laws apply, the higher minimum standard must be obeyed.


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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 4:59 am

Check about the laws and regulations of the country/state you live in. It varies greatly. Here in Malta, for example, the minimum age for legal employment (any type of) is 16.
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 11:25 am

Anyone know where I can pick up these restrictions for the state of NJ?

Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it!

JBLU

(Perhaps I will look into KMMU, which is Morristown Airport)
 
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Tue Nov 19, 2002 1:26 pm

JBLUA320,

This was taken from http://www.nj.com/sites/njea/tips_academics.html


For this reason, all New Jersey minors (under age 18) must have employment certificates or "working papers" in order to be employed.The school guidance counselor or district administrative office can help your child obtain an employment certificate.In addition, state and federal laws limit the hours students can work during the school year (see back panel).


Child Labor Laws

These laws are designed to protect children who work.While most employers follow the law, be sure your child is not encouraged to work too many hours or perform hazardous work, such as operating dangerous machinery.

Under age 14 - Most work is prohibited, except employment as an actor or model (under prescribed guidelines), employment in a parent's business (except in hazardous occupations), or delivery of newspapers.

Ages 14-15 - May work outside of school hours in prescribed occupations, such as clerical and office work, retail sales and merchandising, and food service. Work hours cannot be before 7 a.m. or after 7 p.m. (9 p.m. from June 1 to Labor Day).Exceptions to this time frame are often allowed, with parental permission, for youth whose employment is part of a learning experience.Work hours for this age group are limited to not more than three hours on a school day and a total of 18 hours in a school week, or eight hours on a non-school day and a total of 40 hours in a non-school week; they cannot work more than six consecutive days.

Ages 16-17 - May work in non-hazardous occupations or in agriculture up to eight hours per day and a total of 40 hours per week, but not more than six consecutive days.During the school year, work hours cannot be before 6 a.m. or after 11 p.m.



Check out this link as well:
http://www.state.nj.us/labor/lsse/lschild.html
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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Wed Nov 20, 2002 2:36 am

Lets face the truth. No airport will hire you. The only job you can get at any airport is at BK or McDonalds. But you wont work for the airport, only at the airport. Working at the airport is very serious and hazardous job.
Wait another 4 years and you should be glad that you dont have to work yet.
I am 25yo and I've been working since I was 15. So it puts me on 10th working year. I've been working in one company for 3 years, second company for 1 year. This job I have for over 6 years and + I worked second job 1998/1999 as a ramp agent on evenings and weekends going straight to the airport from my office.
Enjoy your school and free time. Your parents will always give you some cash so you dont have to wory about work.

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RE: Is 14 Too Young To Work?

Wed Nov 20, 2002 5:20 am

im with lindy, i knew once i started working, i would be until retirement, ive been working for 4 years, and i wish i had never started
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