asbg
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Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Fri Dec 13, 2002 9:19 pm

Hello,

I'm so happy to be back home for the weekend...  Big thumbs up

Thank you for all your support, I really appreciate it.

The first days in the army are really tough mostly because a person has to adjust himself to a different way of life. My only problem is not really the physical part but it's being a way from home. I'm sure I'll get used to that. The faster the better.

My basic training base is in southern Israel. I'll be trained for two months. The conditions are ok considering the fact that I'm only a private going through basic training.
This week was pre-basic training which means that they are just taste a bit of what we will go through. Eventual I'll get a weapon and I'll be considered in army terms as a fighter.

After the two months of basic training I'll go through a month course which will prepare me for my job. In general my job will be sitting in front of a radar near one of Israel's borders and informing the forces if I see anything. My main aim is to inform the forces that a terrorist invaded Israel.

I'm really thrilled that I won't be a real fighter.
There is really a lot to tell so I tried to give the more important facts.

If you have any questions I'll be happy to answer.

It's great to be back!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Sam.
 
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Fri Dec 13, 2002 9:34 pm

They let you go home on weekends???

Don't complain about sitting in a van watching a radar screen.

At least you will have air conditioning on the front line.


Kind of the same reason why I was in the US Army Signal Corp.
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Fri Dec 13, 2002 9:45 pm

When I'm in basic training I'll come home every other weekend.

I don't really want to sit in the vans. I rather sit in the bunker.

They told us that excel the course will sit in the vans...I don't see that as a good thing.

 
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:09 pm

Well there is something a bit unnerving knowing that you are sitting in a van with a radar or radio that is putting out a signal that says, "Here I am" to everybody with a direction finder.....


That does tend to make very thick concrete sound very nice.


Boy the US Army doesn't let you go home. When I joined, I went through basic and then tech school. Only 6 months later did I get a two week leave, then I went to Germany for two years.

Good thing everything in that corner of the world is so close.
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sat Dec 14, 2002 2:25 am

I'm with L-188. I had 7 weeks of Basic, then 6 months of Tech School in the Air Force, before we were allowed to take any kind of leave. Enjoy it!
 
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sat Dec 14, 2002 4:53 am

If Sam tells us more, you'll see that the IDF is a pretty unique fighting force in that regard. Much less formal than their US counterparts also no saluting.

tell us about the social aspects of being in the army Private. Making friends? anything liek that?

tnnh
 
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sun Dec 15, 2002 12:44 am

Russ,
One of the things I was worried about was making friends. I must say that I was worried for no reason. Luckily enough I landed up to be part of a group with really nice guys. I'm sure it isn't like that everywhere.

I've been in the army for one week and all I did except take orders was talk. It's very easy to start a conversation. It starts with "Where do you come from?, What do you want to do in the army? Etc... Basically we are all in the same boat so we have to get along.

Like my commander said, eventually we will land up being like brothers. I'll practically be "glued" to these guys for the next 3 years.

I was really surprised when I read about the US army basic training. How can they keep the soldiers in the bases for several months without sending them home? How does it feel?
From tomorrow I'll stay in the base for 2 full weeks. I don't know how I will cope with that.

Sam.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sun Dec 15, 2002 1:59 am

That wasn't really the bad part.

The bad part is that I left Alaska in September right before we get our first frost and ended up in South Carolina where it was about 90 degrees and the dewpoint felt about the same.

I thought I was in a sauna when I stepped off the airplane.



Us guys in the US can't complain, we volunteered.
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sun Dec 15, 2002 4:41 am

true - good point - a volunteer army versus a drafted one.
 
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sun Dec 15, 2002 5:03 am

Hey Sam,

I spend 9 weeks at basic training in the Navy and I was only 18 when I joined. I was nervous at first but it wasn't too bad. In a couple weeks in basic, everything gets better and easier. About making friends, yes..it is sooo easy to make friends in basic. For me it as easy becuase everyone in my division were 17-21 years old and some came right off the boat, graduate from high school then ship off to basic, just like I've done.

After basic, I spent 2 months in Florida for my technical basic school as an aircraft engine mechanic. I graduated from my tech school Oct. 11, 2002 and after that, I was allowed to go home and take my 14 days of leave. I am now in NAS Oceana, and I basically go home EVERY weekend and holidays since I am only 200 miles from home. Monday, I start my advanced school, anouther 2 months, and after that, I will probably be going on my first six month deployment to the Gulf supporting the others on Operation Enduring Freedom.

How are the pay system with the IDF? Is it the same in the US, like from E-1 to E-9 for enlisted and O-1 to O-10 for officers? I plan on becoming an officer in the next few years and then stay in the Navy for 20 years.

Good luck to you.

Kevin
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sun Dec 15, 2002 5:56 am

Kevin,
I know it's all a matter of time until I really get used to it. Another thing I learnt from talking to a soldier on the train yesterday that it's all in the head. If I'll be positive it will be ok.

All the guys in my unit are 18 meaning they all graduated high school a few months ago.

I hope the physical part won't be a problem. The guys aren't really built...half of them have back problems.

The payment in the IDF is depends you serve. Soldiers in basic training get 321 shekels per month (=69 US Dollars). I think that a really small amount. A fighter gets about 700 shekels (=150 US Dollars). How is it in the US?

Good luck to you too Kevin.

I'll have a lot more information in 12 days.

Sam.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sun Dec 15, 2002 2:32 pm

wow that little? I get almost $1300 a month including meal and other necessary cost. But with taxes, GI bill, I loose about $500 so I only get approx $1100 a month. And im only an E-2 and I'll be grabbing for E-3 in a few months. Not bad, hopefully to make it to second or first class before getting commissioned as an officer.

Kevin
 
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sun Dec 15, 2002 3:59 pm

I want to say that I was clearing only about 650 when I was first in but don't hold me to that.

All I know is that when Stuttgart Army Airfields messhall shut down due to the 92-94 drawdown and we got put on seperate rations for a couple of months. That is where the Army kicks you extra pay to cover your meals. I thought I was raking in the dough...

Spent most of it on Stuttgarter Hefe-Weisen  Big thumbs up
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sun Dec 15, 2002 4:55 pm

yeah beer!!!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Private Sam Green Is Back For The Weekend!

Sun Dec 15, 2002 10:26 pm

NO TNNH...


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