AerLingus
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The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 7:07 am

Out of all of the citys to which you've travelled, which is the most futuristic or technologically advanced based upon (but not limited to) the criteria of:

- Technology used in public spaces and in the service of the public, generally.
- Architecture and public art.
- Social and ethnic make-up.
- Transportation.
- Education.

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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 7:17 am

Singapore, Tokyo, Bangkok - in that order
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 7:20 am

Interesting.
Maybe I should mention that I'd like to see contributors justify their choices with some examples.
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 7:23 am

Bangkok? I could think of a few more futuristic cities. I.e. Osaka, Kobe, Hong Kong... interestingly, all of these are in Asia. Seattle would probably be the most modern in the USA, my European vote goes to Copenhagen and its Scandinavian counterparts.

What about Dubai?
 
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 7:25 am

Hong Kong
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 7:27 am

Okay - I will break it down by category, and give the top 3 for each category.

- Technology used in public spaces and in the service of the public, generally.

Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore


- Architecture and public art.

Bangkok (Come on - Elephant shaped skyscrapers and talking escalators!), Tokyo, Kuala Lumpur

- Social and ethnic make-up.

London, New York, Los Angeles - all multicultural phenomenons

- Transportation.

Bangkok (Skytrains et al), Singapore, Kuala Lumpur

- Education.

Singapore (ludicrously talented population) , Tokyo, Oslo
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 7:47 am

1)Dubai (really nice buildings)
2)Singapore (what can I say?)
3)Sydney (The monorail and the tower gave a futuristic look)
4)Bangkok (now with the new train downtown it must be futuristic!)
 
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 8:18 am

UNder transportation i would have to include London - probably the best underground system in the world. Did you know that 1.5 million people travel on it every day???!!!!
 
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 8:50 am

As far as innovative architechture goes, how about Rotterdam?
 
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 8:50 am

Allow me to correct your typo, surely you meant 'worst' not best.
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:30 am

Wouldn´t that depend heavily on what kind of future you´re imagining?

Just think back to the "year 2000" visions people had in the 1950s: Flying cars all over the place - and powered by nuclear reactors, no less...  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:53 am

I think for futuristic city you have to include the new Pudong development near Shanghai. That place is amazing!  Wow!

Yes, London's Underground is great except for one thing: their trains are just too small for American-sized passengers. Small wonder why they're designing new trains with lowered floors for more headroom.
 
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:59 am

Are you guys joking ? That's 2 people praising the London subway.....

Outdated, small, unreliable, expensive, dangerous, filthy ...
any other adjectives welcome.
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 10:23 am

Outdated, small, unreliable, expensive, dangerous, filthy ...
any other adjectives welcome.


I use the underground all the time and i can tell u you it's not dangerous, it's not filthy and small. It might be expensive but the positives outweigh the negatives.
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 10:28 am

Must be a full moon over there !
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 3:32 pm

Bigfork, Montana..................LOL, I am kidding.

I would say Tokyo, Japan

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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:59 pm

Ryan - I'd disagree with you about Bangkok. I found that most of the skyscrapers weren't even finished (economic depression), some were dangerous due to manufacturers and contracters cutting corners to stay within tight budgets. Most of the city was dirty, full of traffic, old fashioned and sometimes frightening!! First time i've ever seen male hookers at midday... Also, people swimming in the river, children?? Same place that everyone dumps their sewage!! Not very nice...

Singapore is nice, but it has a very hollow atmosphere, almost none at all. Tokyo has terrible population, traffic problems. Plus there are still alot of very old buildings and poor living conditions.

Seoul, Kuala Lumpur are both pretty nice cities, Osaka in Japan is also nice (if its a City!!).

Sydney is also surprisingly futuristic, many new buildings, good transport system (the light rail by darling harbour), etc etc, nice underground/metro system.

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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Wed Dec 25, 2002 12:42 am

I think I'm going to need to nominate my own town of San Francisco, CA.

-Computer operated underground Muni trains (complete with computerised voices).
-Nextbus tracking systems on transit vehicles to provide real-time arrival and departure information on a mobile phone.
-Digital parking meters.
-Fastrak transponders on windshields. Booth mounted readers instantly read the transponder and deduct the toll from an account. The driver doesn't even need to slow down.
-The Transamerica Pyramid, the SFMOMA building, Sony Metreon.
-San Francisco is a BIG regional transit hub with Caltrain, BART, Samtrans, Ferries and AC Transit in one small city.
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Fri Dec 27, 2002 8:22 am

EGGD - with all due respect you probably haven't been to Bangkok in the last 2 years, during which it has been transformed with draconian anti-litter laws and the completion of skyscrapers/skytrain/subway system. It is certainly cleaner than somewhere like Tokyo at present, although nowhere near the sanitisation levels of Singapore.
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Fri Dec 27, 2002 8:28 am

Bangkok? This city represents every urban nightmare! Third world poverty, uncontrolled growth, corruption, horrendous traffic, environmental devastation, a massive sex industry. No urban planners would ever emulate BKK in designing a city.
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Fri Dec 27, 2002 8:28 am

Also, as a daily user of the London Underground I'm with Pacificjourney on this one. It sucks! Sucks, sucks, sucks. Give me the Paris Metro anyday.
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Fri Dec 27, 2002 8:29 am

the london underground has more postives than negatives?

its expensive, often dirty, often overcrowed, the staff are mostly rude, there are too many stairs, a number of statiosn dont have escalators or if they dont they dont work and theres often a strike at least once a year.

the positives are that most trains do run on time and the new jubillee line is great, even if its massively over budget.

the underground is about to be part privitised which means things are likely to get worse judging by the experience of the main rail network.
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Fri Dec 27, 2002 10:19 am

This topic title makes me laugh. "Most Futuristic City"? Is that the city that you want to be, or the city that WILL be? Honestly, I think the best combination of the two is Los Angeles. Yeah, you laugh regarding the traffic. But find me a city that is not/ will not be dealing with traffic issues like LA is already dealing with them.

LA pretty much has the market on "most XXXX inhabitants outside of the country of XXXXX." More Vietnamese, Chinese, Mexicans, Japanese, Filipinos, and pretty much any Central American all call LA home outside of their own countries.

So yeah, multicultural, multilingual, crowded, smoggy, LA:

YOUR CITY OF THE FUTURE.
 
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Fri Dec 27, 2002 1:13 pm

Hill Valley, California, in the year 2015...

-Hoverboards
-Flying Cars
-Holographic Sharks
-Jaws 19
-Self Drying Jackets


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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Fri Dec 27, 2002 3:10 pm

Air Lingus said in reply number 17...
"-Fastrak transponders on windshields. Booth mounted readers instantly read the transponder and deduct the toll from an account. The driver doesn't even need to slow down."

Here in New York we have that. It's called EZ Pass. You can use it in of states like New Jersey, Mass, Delaware, New York, Penn....

Not trying to be a jack ass, but just telling you we have it in NY too.


As for the original post, I have to give props to Toronto. The city has changed a lot in the past few years. New buildings have been/are being constructed right now. Most of them are the glass and steel buildings that look really nice! But some parts are old, but it's changing!

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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Fri Dec 27, 2002 4:53 pm

any other adjectives welcome.

strike-prone

174th is right. EZPass allows American commutters in the Northeast to drive right through toll booths as sensors automatically deduct payment. It's highly used and well run.

 
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:51 pm

Every place has an Easy Pass system these days... Atlanta even has one, and they only have one toll in the entire STATE of Georgia (on 400, inside the Perimeter). We have one in Dallas also, only there are a lot more tolls than Atlanta, granted its a lot cheaper than any toll across the Throgs Neck, GWB, or Whitestone!
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Sat Dec 28, 2002 12:49 pm

Massachusetts also has a system like that, and has had so for some years. Basically, you pay for the transponder, and then every month you get billed for how much you use it.

I don't drive on toll roads enough to warrant the cost of it, but it is a good tool for people who live along the Mass Pike.

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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Sat Dec 28, 2002 1:00 pm

Singapore
Shanghai
Tokyo
Hong Kong
Seattle
San Francisco
Vancouver
 
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Sat Dec 28, 2002 1:12 pm

I nominate Vancouver.

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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Sat Dec 28, 2002 1:49 pm

174thfwff:
It's been a few years since my last trip to New York. I didn't know it was being used so widely over there!
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RE: The Most Futuristic City

Sat Dec 28, 2002 9:11 pm

the EZ pass system is a complete failure. not enough people have it to make up for the huge expenses for installing all of the things at the toll booths.

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