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North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:50 am

North Korea is the big problem right now. Accroding to U.S. resources they have 2 nukes and are making more. CNN reported that the Nuckes could Strike Tokyo in Minutes. Tokyo being destoryed would be terrible for the whole World. Not saying it would Happen . But it's not like North Korea would win in any war. it Would be US UK Isreal, and probly Japan Canada, France, one are side as well, So if North Korea tries to do anything there would be no more North Korea on the Map. And i am Serious. Bush better think of somthing to make sure N Korea dose not use any of there power. N Korea power would only be good for a few strikes. And i think Honolulu better be carefull. Closet Major U.S. city to N Korea. But i belive that nothing will happen. But if Suddam or N Korea did anything they would both be taken off the map by atleast 5 countries. i think
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:10 am

N. Korea would be out of its mind to give the first strike. This would be agression on their part and upset even their allies. While I think N. Korea is a problem, I don't think they will use their nukes. They are in too desperate need for resources to endanger any aid that they are receiving. N. Korea will not strike first in my opinion. The forces against them would blow them away making south korea an island. Don't worry about doomsday, cause it ain't gonna start with N. Korea.

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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:06 am

A big concern about North Korea’s weapons program is that they have a past history of selling weapons to just about anyone who asks for them, terrorists included. They’re also responsible for a number for terrorist incidents themselves, but mostly against South Koreans.

I would agree with the assessment that the North Koreans are unlikely to strike first in most circumstances, but who is to say that others won’t with the technology and know-how they obtain from the DPRK? Pakistan is said to have gotten their nuclear expertise from North Korea. That is the main concern with them.

Yes, they are desperate, they are destitute and I get the feeling that Dear Leader’s regime is in a lot of trouble within his nation, however they wouldn’t be crazy enough to strike first…yet. But then, desperate people do desperate thing, so you never know.
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:30 am

If anyone, anywhere nukes a US interest, NORAD'll fire every bird we have at them and blast them off the earth. Do they really want to risk it?
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 1:27 pm

I'm personaly more worried about Bush using some of his little gismo's...
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 1:31 pm

I'm personaly more worried about Bush using some of his little gismo's...


Like what? His Death Ray.

Get over the Bush beating already.
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 3:17 pm

North Korea is a big problem right now, with all of its military flexing. Oh, and flyMIA, work a little on your grammar and such, I almost had a migraine after reading your post.
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 3:46 pm

North Korea is actually NOT the biggest problem. Yes, the country has the ability for "mass destruction", but I believe the country is in verbal threat stage.

North Korea still needs China and Russia. N. Korea can't afford to lose their communist allies (or ex-communist allies) if they did something like a major attack.

Also, Bush will not launch military action against North Korea, because N. Korea don't have oil. US will not launch military action against a country that has nothing profitable to offer.
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 3:51 pm

TWAL1011,

Now thats an American reply If ever I've heard one !!

The problem is BUSH, now you get over that. This guy is going to get us all into WW3 before long.

Why is it that you guys just can't accept that he does anything wrong ? Just look how he's trying to back out of the mess he made.

For once a country is now telling the USA to do it there way or forget it, strange how its always OK for America to use this way but not for any other country.

 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 3:59 pm

Erm, the North Korea way should in no way, shape, or form be a remotely good way to get your point across, or even considered fodder for an argument like this despite some hard-on's for the bashing of certain nations. If this even crosses your mind for 1/4 of a second you frighten me. Nations like North Korea are going to cause WW3 long before Bush gets even close.
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 4:24 pm

Why is it that you guys just can't accept that he does anything wrong ? Just look how he's trying to back out of the mess he made.

Nobody has said Bush is perfect, but North Korea is hardly the angel you purport them to be. North Korea has been making these weapons long before Bush came into power. This situation was always a "mess". Of course, this is excatly how you folks in China want it to be...until it got way out of control even for your own good. The last thing China wants to see in a united Korea.
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:09 pm

What I find amusing is the fact that Bush said that the U.S. "will not be blackmailed" then offered N. Korea aid if they stopped their nuclear program.
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:43 pm

Well, the US has nuclear weapons, but it's not ok for other countries to have them. I know the arguement, that the US was always considered a 'responsible' nation, whereas countries like North Korea are not. However a couple of months ago, Bush said that he could NOT rule out using nuclear weapons in Iraq. Now that doesn't sound very responsible at all, especially towards a country that has not shown any aggression towards the US in many years. Why doesn't Bush go and nuke China, there's been more attrition there in recent years. Oh isn't the EU got something about subsidies and steel tariffs? Why not nuke Europe while he's at it! He's pissed everyone off already, why not a few more countries? Responsible, pah!
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:54 pm

What I find amusing is the fact that Bush said that the U.S. "will not be blackmailed" then offered N. Korea aid if they stopped their nuclear program.

That's a distortion. What Bush said was that the U.S. is willing to extend aid to North Korea, as it would to any country in serious trouble, but only if NK stops it's nuclear program.

This is a promise to treat NK as a normal country, if it acts like a normal country.

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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 9:18 pm

Well, the US has nuclear weapons, but it's not ok for other countries to have them. I know the argument, that the US was always considered a 'responsible' nation, whereas countries like North Korea are not. However a couple of months ago, Bush said that he could NOT rule out using nuclear weapons in Iraq. Now that doesn't sound very responsible at all, especially towards a country that has not shown any aggression towards the US in many years.

It's very simple. If Saddam indeed does have WMDs of any kind, and in a pinch uses them (or a trigger-happy Iraqi officer fires one off) the only appropriate response available are nukes. Bush is responsibly clarifying to Saddam that if he uses WMDs, he will be destroyed. Butter to say so, than leave Saddam with the hope of being able to frighten Bush off with the threat of WMD use.

However, it is out of the question that the US is the first nation to use a WMD. You can rest assured that that is the last thing that Bush will want to order.

As far as "responsible" and "irresponsible" nations, I think we can lay on a pretty good definition. A responsible nation will have
- A democratically elected government that reflects the will of its population.
- Well established safeguards and failsafe mechanisms for the use of force or specific weapons systems

for an example of such safeguards, the US president cannot launch a nuclear strike on his own - several people have to agree that the order is valid, according to a number of rules which they have memorized, such as whether the president appears to be in control of his faculties, is he being coerced, or is in some way acting contrary to the interests of the nation. This is different from North Korea or Iraq, where a dictator has absolute power, and nobody can deny his orders (if they do they will be shot).

Therefore, any country which is a dictatorship, with one-man rule, should be considered as not being responsible enough to own such weapons, as the international community cannot feel comfortable that safeguards prevent their easy use.

There is a middle ground as well. China and the former USSR are non-democratic and authoritarian, but have a sufficiently complex cammand-and-control structure to assure a reasonable safeguard. Leonid Brehznev or Deng Xhou-peng (sp?) could not single handedly order a launch (although Stalin and Mao might have had that power).

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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:44 pm

Nice post Charles.

Hkgspotter1,

"The problem is BUSH, now you get over that."

This is a typical European, holier-than-thou statement. The US can do no good in your jaundiced, hyper-cynical mind.

Lets be clear. The problem is and has always been the Kim dynasty and Saddam, now you get over that.

Kim Jong Il is perhaps is the most wicked ruler in power and you condemn Bush for not giving into his blackmail. In fact, you seem heartened by the DPRK's intransigence. I see that you subscribe to the Neville Chamberlain School of Diplomacy.

These tyrants need to be dealt with and Bush is doing it. Even if imperfect, his actions are the only serious alternative than any world leader has put forth. Everyone else seems to think if you ignore a problem, it will just go away.
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:45 am

War with North Korea? What a laugh! If war ever did start, I am 100% convinced that it would be one of the quickest and most one-sided wars in history, making the 1990 Gulf War look like the Battle of Stalingrad in comparison. North Korea's "million man" army would surrender without a fight at the outbreak of hostilities. Kim Jong Il would be overthrown and executed, that is if the US didn't reach Pyongyang first.
I believe that the entire course of the war, from the first shots to North Korea's capitulation, would be shorter than the 1967 Six-Day War.
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 1:14 am

PROSA,

I think your confidence is misplaced. I think a war would be very bloody. Even if some of his forces surrendered, it would only take a handful of loyalists to lob a few shells and chemical tipped missles into Seoul. It's a quick trip from the DMZ.
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 1:44 am

I am glad Bush is not putting up with DPRK.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/859191.asp
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 1:56 am


This is the way I see things:
All of these little countries that are messing with the U.S are going to pay dearly for their actions. I'm not worried about war at all. If N. Korea were to wage any type of "military" action against the U.S, it would be like hamering the nails of their own coffin.
I might not know all the details, and I may have just made myself look really stupid, but that's how I look at it. Then again, I'm a pacifist, so maybe my ideas are being clouded by my feelings about war. Anyhoo take care everyone
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 2:46 am

These tyrants need to be dealt with and Bush is doing it. Even if imperfect, his actions are the only serious alternative than any world leader has put forth. Everyone else seems to think if you ignore a problem, it will just go away.

As far as Bush is RESPECTING international laws and conventions to achieve his quest for a better world. He needs to comply, like anybody else, with any UN resolution and he has no right to have an unlimited power on the international scene. The only serious alternative is and will remain the United Nations, not the United States.
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 2:49 am

It is all rhetoric guys (and gals Jacq  Big grin ) N. Korea is trying to embarass the US and Bush on a worldwide stage at a very volatile point in world politics. They did the EXACT same thing to Clinton. It has been going on for years. They suddenly back away from treaties and talk war. Please...do you really think they would risk their very being to challenge the US? Only because the US is focused on the middle east. It would be complete lunacy for them to back out of the treaties and refuse aid. They are running their mouths and thumping their chests to embarass the US and distract everyones attention away from the fact that the N. Korean government finances, harbors and provides transportation to known terrorist groups. Bush will stay tough, and they will eventually shut up.

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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 3:01 am

OO-AOG,

You make it sound like it is the US that is flouting the UN. Iraq has been flouting the UN resolution for 11 years (132 months) and now Bush wants to do something. If it were not for Bush, there would be zero inspections going on today. None. Blix and the others would be in Vienna. Bush put Saddam on notice, if that if all 15 members of the UN security council dither on a decision to enforce their very own resoultions, he will do it for them instead. Saddam needs to understand that there is a tangible consequence for non-compliance.

I hope:

a. Saddam disarms unilaterally and the US ends deployment (most desireable)
b. If Saddam remains intransigent, the UN approves military action

I hope that this does not happen:

c. US goes it alone.
d. The world gets cold feet and leaves Saddam to build his nukes

If the UN gets cold feet, we have no choice but c. or the world will pay the price later.

Finally, the DPRK kicked out the IAEA and withdrew from NPT and again, and the whole thing is blamed on Bush because he took a stand. Kim was building nukes for years before Bush got elected in violation of their own agreements.

 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 3:07 am

Iraq has been flouting the UN resolution for 11 years (132 months) and now Bush wants to do something

How long had Israel been flouting the UN resolution for.....?
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 3:47 am

You make it sound like it is the US that is flouting the UN. Iraq has been flouting the UN resolution for 11 years

The only thing I say N79969 is that the USA should respect the UN and the international laws whatever does Iraq. As the ''leader of democracy'' and president of the "Land of Free", I can't imagine Bush taking unilateral decisions and invading a country without UN approval.
The inspections have restarted, thanks to the US... agreed, but as far as I know no WMD have been dicovered so far, so lets wait till the end of the inspections before making any conclusions.
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Fri Jan 17, 2003 3:51 am

They just found chemical warheads. More to come. President Bush and PM Blair have been vindicated. The threat of UN action is no threat at all to Saddam. He is counting on in-fighting to slow the UN down or stop it altogether. Again, the only stick you can wave at Saddam is certain enforcement whether brought by the UN or the US.
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Sat Jan 18, 2003 1:04 am

The DPRK and Kim know exactly that they couldn't afford any attack (WMD's or conventional) to ANY country. Kim knows that if he would do that, his clock would even tick faster.

I already know, Alpha 1 and N79969 just call that naive thinking of a naive stupid European.

Just to mention, there was a poll on time.com/europe and the question was something like:
Which country is most the most dangerous for Worldpeace?
They had following choices: Iraq, DPRK and USA.
If I'm not mistaken out of 200'000 votes only 82% voted for the USA.
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Sat Jan 18, 2003 1:15 am

Swissgabe,

In 1991, Kim Il Sung contemplated an attack on the South in spite of the risk of annihilation. The real danger of the DPRK is that one of their blackmail schemes will go wrong and result in a nuclear war.

That Time.com poll is unsurprising and meaningless. Iraq has violated UN resolutions for 132 months straight to hide weapons. Why else would any country endure crippling sanctions unless they had something to hide?

The DPRK violated the 1994 agreement by secretly building nuclear weapons. The US found about it and is now dealing with it.

Iraq and DPRK have been and continue to be the threat to peace. Peace is not the absence of war. If the Allies had not fought WWII and let Hitler reign, the world not have been 'peaceful.'

Iraq and the DPRK are unique in that they ruled by megalomaniacs with unlimited power. They need to be dealt with. Just ignoring them is not an option.
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Sat Jan 18, 2003 3:07 am

Two possibilities:
1. Kim doesn't know what he is talking about (similar to Bush)
2. Kim only plays with Japan, ROK and the US

In my opinion the only think which makes the DPRK dangerous is, that Kim couldn't have the control over his military and his generals. Hardliners in the DPRK are much more dangerous than Kim it self.

I wonder my self what Bush and the US would do with the DPRK if there wouldn't be Iraq.
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Sat Jan 18, 2003 3:09 am

Greetings:

I see a silver lining in this cloud of possible war with Iraq and N. Korea. If you look at the countries of the world today only Iraq and N. Korea threaten world peace. Every developed country on the planet has some type of peaceful relationship with each other. Remove Saddam and Kim Jong and for the first time in world history you may actually achieve a lasting peace between nations. Through war there will be peace, it's one way of looking at things but I think it may be a possibility this time. Remember there's a price to pay for peace.

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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Sat Jan 18, 2003 4:50 am

"In my opinion the only think which makes the DPRK dangerous is, that Kim couldn't have the control over his military and his generals. Hardliners in the DPRK are much more dangerous than Kim it self."

There is some truth here. It is not clear how much control Kim continues to exert over the military. However it is not correct or safe to assume that Kim is harmless or powerless. Like his father, he is a wicked depraved individual that can do damage to the rest of the world.

"Kim doesn't know what he is talking about (similar to Bush)"

A cheap, gratuitous shot. I have said it before and I say it again: there would be no UN inspections but for President Bush.
 
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Sat Jan 18, 2003 6:38 am

HKGSpotter:


"For once a country is now telling the USA to do it there way or forget it, strange how its always OK for America to use this way but not for any other country."

Actually, an arrogant toilet of a country who's leader is a meglomaniac murderer of his own people is trying to blackmail the free world...N. Korea is looking to start a war and will use Nukes if they choose as well as sell them to the highest bidder. And guess what, it is China and Russia's problem as well.

Actually, I'm more worried about the "Kim Jung Il"'s of the world--and people like bush are only an answer to those types. Get over the Anti-Bush thing, since it seems that "everyone else" bitches about the Us doing something about the "problems" the UN, Europe, Asia etc refuses to do anything about....



 
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Sat Jan 18, 2003 6:49 am

OO-AOG:

"As far as Bush is RESPECTING international laws and conventions to achieve his quest for a better world. He needs to comply, like anybody else, with any UN resolution and he has no right to have an unlimited power on the international scene. The only serious alternative is and will remain the United Nations, not the United States. "

And as far as the precious UN and it's laws; what about Jung Il and Hussein following them  Yeah sure no double standards please. As far as I am concerned it is Bush that is doing the inept and ineffective UN's job by actually enforcing "their" mandates...
 
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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Sat Jan 18, 2003 6:56 am

I have never understood why small nations like North Korea are trying to act tough with the US. If they want to play ball with US, the US could wipe out NK off the map in 45 minutes. You could understand why the Soviet Union fought against the US cos they were fiersome fighting force, but North Korea?

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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:12 am

Well, I'm not trying to stereotype, but when I was in Japan and China, (lived in Beijing for 2 months), I did notice that both the Chinese and Japanese are very much into "saving face". I would assume that the Koreans, both north and south are into this as well. What I mean is (at least in China), they do not like to be proven wrong. They like to show they are the toughest nations and their way of life will stand. Japan, is not so much this way, but pride seemed prevalent when I was there. Does anyone remember the rhetoric going around during the EP3 spy plane incident? A lot of hot air floating around on the press, the Chinese not willing to say it is their fault, (Im sorry, a prop-driven plane is not match for a fast chinese mig, loaded with arms). Then the Chinese want an apology from the US claiming that the incident was entirely the fault of the US. (Again, saving their own asses). Anyway, pride, especially national pride is a big issue to them. The more unified and strong their words are, the better and stronger they look in the world of international politics. Honestly, I think They want in bed with the US more than anything, and they are using their nukes to sort of tool to do so.

Iraq is a much different situation than North Korea. First of all, NK is much closer to the US, and they HAVE obtained the nuclear technology to build a bomb, or what have you. Secondly, N. Korea shares many cross relationships to other countries of which the US has relationships with, (both good and strained). What some of you forget to think about, is that most of what you hear from news sources, (i.e. political speeches from president Bush and his staff, or of other world leaders), is primarily abrasive rhetoric to show their strength. So, even though you may think Bush is stupid, and going to get us into WWIII, most of what he says is harsh rhetoric to scare the enemy. Also, the US, I can 99.9% assure you, will not strike first with nuclear arms in a war with Iraq. The US, as well as other nations, including Russia, have their nuclear arsenal more as a means of deterrant, and this is why Bush said he would use nukes if need be. (That occurring if Saddam uses chemical or biological weapons on US forces.) Therefore, by saying his statement, he raises the stakes to Saddam in hopes that Saddam will back down, be scared and not use his WMD on our military.

People, politics is 75% rhetoric (usually abrasive) and 25% policy. What we comprehend as politics (for those of us who are the average Joe), is 99% what the media reports, and 1% of what actually occurs.

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Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:22 am

Also, everyone hears our rhetoric more because we speak loudly in the US, and even louder in foreign countries! Also, no one can miss us with our cowboys hats, wrangler boots, our Levi jeens, and our loaded pistol at our sides. LOL.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: North Korea Biggest Problem WW3

Sat Jan 18, 2003 9:28 am

Well, I'm not trying to stereotype, but when I was in Japan and China, (lived in Beijing for 2 months), I did notice that both the Chinese and Japanese are very much into "saving face".

It's Asian culture. That's why sometimes I hate it.
 
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Sat Jan 18, 2003 1:31 pm

"It's Asian culture. That's why sometimes I hate it.

Hey, It's called ORIENTAL culture, you cannot automatically assume every Asian from Israel to Singapore are all alike -- that's an example of stereotyping!

Israel is in the Middle East, which is just a region, but they are still part of Asia.
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