Why must you always bash Canada?
I could ask the same thing, considering you continuously bash the US.
Seriously, I don’t hate Canada. I’m just as Canadian as you and, for the most part, I like Canada. I’m just not happy with the way some things are going and some of the attitudes of a lot of the people there. But it doesn’t mean that I “bash it”, per say. I’m sure that there are things we’d both like to see improve in the country; we probably have different approaches in how they should be done.
I’ll admit that the jury’s out on Kyoto as it’s still too early to tell, however, you can’t deny that Chretien was pretty reckless in the way he went about it. You don’t go into something that will have such a profound impact without having a full inquiry or consulting others.
Rai, we are talking about whether the US is engaing Iraq because of it's oil (or not). We aren't talking about the poor state of public transit in the rest of the world, but of course I concede that Canadians are just as wasteful of energy as our neighbors to the south. But I think Kyoto is a reasonable start to lowering our reliance on oil.
Now, as for Winnipeg, we don't have subways because the ground isn't ideally suited for a subway system. Downtown we have to drive pilings about 300 feet to hit bedrock.
We don't have commuter trains because, let's face it, there is nowhere to commute. Winnipeg is a city of 680,000 people that is surrounded by very few other communities.
There is a rather extensive "indoor" walkway system including underground tunnels that allows you to travel most of downtown out of the weather and bus service on selected downtown routes is free to encourage their use. Not to mention that the bus service while not being the best in the world, is fairly extensive. (And they use busses that are manufactured right here!)
I grew up in Edmonton and lived in Toronto for a bit, so I know about the “indoor” walkway system. Edmonton has a combination of indoor walkways and “pedways” (bridges that connect above street level). This is essentially, obviously, because of the cold winters. We also have a light-rail transit system that’s free downtown (or at least, it used to be, they may have started charging since I moved…still, nobody used it) and fairly extensive bus service. Even with the service we have (and, from what I’ve seen and without bragging, probably a lot better than what you folks have in Winnipeg) it still leaves much to be desired compared to cities of like size in Europe and compared to some cities on the East coast -- Boston, New York (we used to get our subway trains exclusively from Bombardier until they messed up the breaks, we now have orders from France), Philadelphia, Montreal and Toronto.
Now if you want to see the urban development done right and a (relatively) small city with an excellent mass transit infrastructure, look no further than Calgary. That place and is simply amazing. I don’t see how Winnipeg or Edmonton can’t develop systems like that. Sure, Calgary is bigger in population, but it covers roughly the same area in land as Winnipeg and Edmonton.
That's just a false statement. Most oil companies have already declared that the effects will be minimal. besides, maybe it's Manitoba's turn in the sun with our extensive electricity potential.
I don’t agree with that. If that was the case, then why did Ralph Klein launch such a huge media blitz against Kyoto? He threatened separation, remember? Furthermore, I have a few friends who work for Syncrude (and others in various other companies/government agencies in the Canadian oil industry) and they tell me that things have certainly slowed down since the beginning of the year. They’re certainly not hiring anymore and prospecting is down. Admittedly, it’s been a warm winter in Alberta, which has affected extraction and drilling, but most people say that speculation about Kyoto’s fallout are not boding too well.
If that means Manitoba will thrive (Quebec seems to be eager to take advantage of their hydro-electric potential), then good for you guys, but what about the Albertans who are working in oil and gas?
Yes I have a car. I drive it 7 km to work and back every week day (and other short trips) and I put about $30 of fuel in it a month. Why don't I take a bus Because I travel to client's facilities throughout the day.
At least you’re honest. But I don’t see how such a proponent for mass transit (I am one myself, but I do not own a vehicle) can criticize other car drivers when he is guilty of the same thing.
Yes I could. But those countries aren't about to invade Iraq. Try to stay on topic Rai....
Actually, this is very relevant to your “subliminal Kyoto” spiel. I wouldn’t be one to lecture somebody about staying on topic when you’re as guilty of straying off as any.