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I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:01 am

The levels of Anti-Semitism and Anti-Americanism are so high here that I can not consort with the people here. I consider this site biased against Jews and Non Europeans!
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:06 am

So you're saying everyone should tow the American line now?

Edit: And anyone who questions King Bush is somehow anti-american and therefore the devil.

[Edited 2003-01-25 00:16:00]
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:09 am

Wow, you're cool. If only I was as cool as you. Deleting yourself from a WEBSITE (!) while proclaiming how anti-American and anti-semetic is really cool.

Not to beat about the bush (bit like Matt D...) but isn't this an aviation website? You may think that the non-av section is anti-American and anti-Semetic (which it isn't), but you have to be a bit of a moron to delete yourself due to a forum that has nothing to do with the aim of the site.

[Edited 2003-01-25 00:20:13]
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Rai
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:11 am

So you're saying everyone should tow the American line now?

No, we should tow the Canadian line.  Yeah sure  Yeah sure

It's a shame. Boeing in pdx is one of the original A.net forum members and it's sad to see him gone.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:12 am

Deleted and bye bye. All the different interpretations, views, opinions and understandings about a huge variety of issues make this site worth visiting, if you can't value that, you better go elsewhere.
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:17 am

Should this go in the site related forum?
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:21 am

This should go straight to the airwhiners forum.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:55 am

Of all the people to leave this is the best and probably most true reason in anyones farwell address.
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:56 am

lol its the most ignorant and immature.

I salute you!!! Farewell!
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:11 am

There are some truths to his post. There are some Anti-Americans here.
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:11 am

I think perhaps that this site is not anti-American or anti-Semitic, but I can understand why this perception can occur.

I experienced similar feelings when I moved to Canada. In the United States we are distantly removed from the criticisms and thoughts of other countries and their citizenry in regards to American politics and policies.

When residing in another country or in the case of a.net, these criticisms and opinions carry more weight because they confront and affect us on a more personal level.

Once I was able to realise that these statements and criticisms were not personal attacks against individual Americans but were directed at a national level, it helped me to put them into proper perspective.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:17 am

When someone has criticism that attacks America on the national level, I take it personal.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:43 am

I'm sorry to hear that you are leaving..

I enjoy this site and visit it because of the huge selection of aviation photographs and my interest in aviation, not because of the political views of the other members, too bad that politics are too important to you..

Staffan
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:45 am

I LOVE EWR:

I'm not here to start a hot debate or to disagree with you. If you consider a criticism of America a personal attack, then I can respect that.

I am curious though in your mind what makes America inherently right and what power do we have to designate which countries in the world are evil or undesirable and which are good? Is it based on those that we perceive present a threat to American security or American interests? Are some of the responses that you deem anti-American not other people reacting using the same principle?

Are we making the same arguments against those peoples and governments and expecting them to not take it personally? Do we somehow have the moral authority to criticise and sanction whomever we want at will and think that any opposition inherently means that we know best and everyone else is wrong? Because America is considered at present the financial and military superpower of the world, is this a right or responsibility? These aren't rhetorical or sarcastic questions, just honest queries that I'm curious as to what you think.

What defines anti-Americanism? Is it any opinion that does not agree with American policy? Is it something deeper and more sinister? The softwood lumber dispute is big here in British Columbia, and the US government has imposed prohibitive tarriffs on the much in demand lumber being transported to the US because the argument is that the lumber industry in Canada is unfairly subsidised by the government. Does this make the US anti-Canadian? I wouldn't think so. Do negative comments from BC lumbermen who are out of work make them anti-American? I would hope not. If these comments are directed at American legislation that has ultimately caused them to lose their jobs, is it a personal attack on you and should it be taken as such? Again, I would hope and think not.

I'm not disagreeing with what you said, although I do not feel the same way that you do. I'd be curious as to what you think.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:57 am

Yvr764,

Excellent posts. You have an excellent grasp of the situation and present it quite well.

Boeing in PDX,

Don't let the door smack you in the tukus on the way out.....
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:01 am

What I want to know is, why do you decide to delete yourself because of a non-aviation matter on an aviation forum? Maybe if you'd payed more attention to the aviation side of things you wouldn't have noticed the 'anti-american' minority that apparently exists.

I'd say that was immature no matter whether there are anti-americans here. I'd say there was definitely 'anti-pro americans', but doesn't it make you wonder why when you see silly little tantrums like this???


*sigh*
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:20 am

I agree to a certain extent. It seems too often non-Americans can get off for criticizing another us, but if we turn it around and even jokingly (for example--We Surrender...Signed, France) make a comment about another nation we are flamed and told how we are uncultured idiots.
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:21 am

The levels of Anti-Semitism.....

Arabs are Semites as well. NOT just the Jews.

So yes, there is a lot of anti-Semitism.

Yes, there is a lot of anti-Americanism here and it's a real shame because America is such a great country. But what can you do, when your government is a power hungry bully that wants to control the world?

Regards
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:12 am

Lance:

I like the way you present your arguments. I have noticed that they are clear, concise, well-written and extremely thoughtful (as only a fellow Southerner would  Big thumbs up). You present the “other side” in a way that’s bereft of the hostile and arrogant style that plagues others when presenting their vantage. If people were not so knee-jerk in their reflections of issues and the way they present them, like you seem to be, then we’d probably all get along more amicably.

I’ve been a member of these forums since 1999 (under different usernames). In general, I don’t think there’s been a prevailing “anti-American” sentiment around…at least in the beginning. The last year or so, discussions have started to heat up due to prevailing world events. This is no surprise. A lot of people (and this forum is no exception) are emotional concerning some of these events and perhaps this brings up the worst in them and blinds them in the way they convey themselves. Instead of logically thinking things through, like yourself, they rush to judgments in the “heat of the moment”, if you will. They may mean to say things one way, but because they act through passion rather than common sense, it will come out quite differently to how it was intended. This sense is further intensified as typing is the only mode of communication here; things are presented “as is” and what you see is what you get. Nobody knows the motives of the person behind this message and there really is no way of knowing since the only thing you know is what’s presented through a computer screen. This is the only way of how we view people and this is why we perceive them to hold the views we think they do, whether that is really the case or not.

Lance, not many people (and that includes Americans) believe that the US is the “moral authority” in this world. I’d hazard a guess that most people (Americans included as well) do not place the US on the pedestal compared to others either. We’re all people here and we generally have the same values and concepts of what is “right” and what is “wrong”. Anyone who thinks otherwise is probably way off in their judgment and should not be taken seriously. Just as anyone who thinks that Canada, Europe, Iraq, Japan or whoever has moral authority in their own rights is probably off judgment too. Nobody has moral authority over anyone, especially since we’re all guilty of sins in one way or another.

The biggest problem here, alluding to the notions I mentioned above, is that people on both sides assume this authority and state so in a brash, insulting and arrogant manor: “Americans are ignorant,” “Muslims are terrorists,” “Europeans don’t bathe.” We’re all guilty of this in some way or another and some people do this more so than others. That is what fuels the perception of “anti-whatever” in this forum and it should be as no surprise that people take it seriously. We’re all humans after all.

It has escalated the last few months. Boeing in PDX has been around since these forums’ conception (though I don’t recall him being actively involved in political topics) and it is sad to see him go. It’s a shame that some stupid hot heads spout their rhetoric the way they do and that he has to take it so personally. We’ve lost too many really good forum members (who espoused ideals all over the spectrum) the last six months and I think the non-aviation forum is at fault for this. Sure, maybe they take this all too seriously and they probably shouldn’t, but it really degenerates the overall aesthetic of this place. I suggest that this forum be taken away. This is an aviation website after all, isn’t it?

One more thing, Lance. We may have communicated via e-mail in the past – I don’t remember. I’m from “the Deep South” as well and lived in Canada for a good many years. I’m sure we have similar experiences as “good Southern boys” living in the “Great White North”. You can e-mail (cykotronic718@yahoo.com) me if you like because I’d be curious to hear your escapades.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:26 am

First off why leave?? stand up for your views....

My somewhat humble opinion is as follows

Being an American one of the things I love (love ??) about A.net are the vast and divergent views of world politics and aviation. As an example if I try have a discussion about the I vs P situation while at work for the most part all I get is a blank look and a few babblings about "those terrorists" (mind you these are college educated RNs and PAs). So my visits here are a welcome change of pace.

In addition there are many members whose political views are quite different from my own but I still can get along with them and join in the as an adult and put forth my point of view. Some of these people are on my respected user list as well.

So if you want to leave go ahead and go, but by leaving you are just going to make their negative opinions of Americans even stronger, your leaving is kid off like the child who gets upset while playing a game and says "it's my ball and if we can't play the game my way I'm going to take my ball and go home.

Oh well enough babblings from me about this but I just want you to know that not all Americans are so thin skinned when it come to critiquing of the US.

Yours,
IHadAPhediscussion o

Why do I smell an innuendo thread coming out of this ??

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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 12:10 pm

Boeing in pdx:
Sad to see you go. We didn't agree on everything but I still liked reading your post. You were one of the few 'level-headed' members here. The fools here who constantly look for fights have ran you and another great member (Pam Am 747) away.

The rest of you guys really need to grow up. Yelling at someone who deleted themselve is as dumb as a dog chasing cars.
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:27 pm

There are some truths to his post. There are some Anti-Americans here

It's true indeed, and also some:

anti-europeans
anti-brits
anti-muslims
anti-bush
anti-arabs
anti-french
anti-boeing
anti-airbus
anti-gay
anti-black
anti-christian
anti-terrorists
anti-peace
anti-war
anti-communists
anti-liberals
anti-democrats
anti-anti

We should all leave these forums because there's way too much different opinions here. Freedom of speech should be banned with immediate effect.
I'm so sad that an open-minded member such as Boeing in Pdx is leaving.  Yeah sure
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:31 pm

Freedom of speech should be banned with immediate effect.

This is a privately owned website. There is no such thing as freedom of speech here.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:42 pm

Adios



Sincerely,
FSP Big grin
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 3:25 pm

I have had a few tonight, but seeing the anti-bush just made me laugh.
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:10 pm

Sorry to see Boeing go. Well someones got to stay and stand up to the liberals on the site.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:36 pm

Damn, I'm anti-delete. What can I do to get rid of airliners.net. Nuts

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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:03 pm

So if you want to leave go ahead and go, but by leaving you are just going to make their negative opinions of Americans even stronger, your leaving is kid off like the child who gets upset while playing a game and says "it's my ball and if we can't play the game my way I'm going to take my ball and go home.

My thoughts exactly IHAP. People seem to forget that this is an internet website. It has, or it should, have very little impact on your daily life. So what if someone's anti-American? How does this possibly affect me or prevent me from doing what I have to do? Why should I allow someone else's opinion to prevent me from enjoying something I happen to enjoy?

I think some people need to get a grip on reality and put things back into perspective. You will not always get your way in life. You will not always hear what you want to hear. People will not always agree with you. However, regardless of these things, you MUST have the self-confidence and inner strength of mind to keep going forward and not lose sight of what is important in life. Your interest in aviation is important to you, not the opinions of someone from thousands of miles away who you've never met about your country.

If you'd like others to be tolerant of your views, then you must in turn be tolerant of theirs and not go throwing a hissy fit everytime someone says something you don't agree with. Lastly, offensive posts which violate the rules (not simply those which express an undesirable opinion) should be pointed out to the moderators by use of the suggest delete button.

 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:13 pm

I couldn't agree more with IhadaPheo and Hepkat, they said it in a way that I couldn't be bothered to explain  Laugh out loud.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 8:47 pm

I guess we're all anti-something? OO-AOG's list shows a neat assortment of options against what people are or are not. But I find it wrong to attack any user of this site personally for his/her opinions: the vast majority of the people brawling in this forum have never ever seen each other, but there are so many more aspects of a person than just one opinion!

Many are "anti-Bush" in this place, partially including myself, but I don't consider me anti-American in any way. There are so many things you have to know about an individual before you can form an opinion about her/him; imagine a country of some 240.000.000 inhabitants! Same goes for "anti-Schröder" and "anti-German", ... and also for "anti-Saddam" and "anti-Iraq". Whenever a politician of your own country is personally attacked or someone yells at YOU because, for example, Donald Rumsfeld has said some specific words, keep cool and let the anger of that person pass. Why take it personally when Dubya is called a "moron"? I don't see the reason; I don't even see why Mr. Bush himself should take this serious.

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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:12 pm

Boeing_in_pDX:
Forums like these are a meeting gruond for people who have all kinds of beliefs. It is important to share ideas of different hues and get to know the other side.

By deleting yourself, you are not just isolating yourself, but also preventing your voice from being heard.

I would say that it is better to be a voice in the wilderness than be a silent spectator.

Stay on Dude!

Kind Regards.

Roy
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:57 pm

LOL. Same exact reasons why I'm leaving Le France...minus the anti-semitism...


-Clovers :P
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 1:00 am

I think it's great that there are different opinions that are represented here on Airliners.net. Granted, I don't like some of them, however I feel it's necessary to hear the views of all.

Personally I'm an American and I don't find a lot of Ant-America. Maybe you're too patriotic to really filter out the crap that CNN and MSNBC tell us every day and watch BBC also to get a "third party" opinion on world events.

-174thfwff

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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 2:51 am

Indian Guy, he is a goner!
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:05 am

YVR764 (Lance),

You asked me some very valid questions and I will try to answer them.

The United States Government is set up to protect America's Citizens and the interestes of the citizens, and America's interests at home and abroad. If one truly studies the way our government is set up it is EXTREMELY hard to get a law passed or policiy put in place. There are so many checks it is truly remarkable our government can govern. One is foolish to beleive that the United States Government would also put in place laws or policies that delibretly hurt American Citizens. Granted, not all the laws I agree with and their is some unfairness in some laws passed, but my government is their to protect my interests and they have done a pretty good job of it so far. America has the right to designate for myself which are the good and bad countries. Why? Because they have my best interest in mind when they are making that choice. The USA is protecting my interests and my security. If we sanction a country once again it is the USA protecting my interests and security. If one comes out and lashes againt American Foreign Policy, that is their right, however they are offending my personal interests. You see what I am saying? BTW American Foreign Policy is also in place to protect many of the FREE Demcratic Nations of the World, not just America per se.

I am not to familar with the lumber disputes in BC or another topic in US/Canadian relations such as fishing rights, however America and it's citizens have a close friendship with our great neighbors up North. The prohibited tariffs the US has passed is to protect American Interests. These interests in this example include the lumber industry of the American Northwest such as Oregon and Washington. America's job is to protect the rights of the American Companies and the American workers in that region. If a Canadian loses their job because of the tariff that truly is ashame. I would hate to see anyone unemployed, but America's job is to protect HER industry and citizens. Canada I would hope would try to protect her interests as well. Negative comments from BC lumbermen does not make them Anti-American, they are trying to protect their rights and livlyhood. My fellow Americans wish that our biggest problem in these days is a dispute with BC Lumber, unfortunetly that is not the case.

In World War I 306,000 American men were killed and wounded in defending France. In World War II close to a million American men were killed and wounded once again defending France. What do they do to us when we need thier help and support most? They come out against our policy. Granted they are entitled to their own opinions and have the right to be againt our policy and interests, but were would they be with America today? There would be no France. My great uncles served in France and one came home with a metal plate in his head defending that country and American interests and security. We have been their for France but they are not there when we need them. I take it personally that they have not come out in support for our war. The sacrifices my country has made for France one should take it personall when they dont come out and support us.

I have to go to work, I hope I answered your questions if not email me or post replies here.

Have a nice day!!!
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:31 am

The prohibited tariffs the US has passed is to protect American Interests. These interests in this example include the lumber industry of the American Northwest such as Oregon and Washington. America's job is to protect the rights of the American Companies and the American workers in that region. If a Canadian loses their job because of the tariff that truly is ashame. I would hate to see anyone unemployed, but America's job is to protect HER industry and citizens. Canada I would hope would try to protect her interests as well. Negative comments from BC lumbermen does not make them Anti-American, they are trying to protect their rights and livlyhood. My fellow Americans wish that our biggest problem in these days is a dispute with BC Lumber, unfortunetly that is not the case.


EWR: The US placed tariffs because they accused Canadian softwood lumber producers of “dumping” their products into the US market and because of government subsidies. I would not deny those claims because it happens everywhere, but this has nothing to do with “protecting US worker’s rights” in the Northwest. In general, US lumber producers are inefficient compared to the rest so they really need to change their ways. A low Canadian dollar makes the American producers far less competitive. Anyways, the WTO recently announced that US tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber were in violation of international trade rules. The US government won't appeal that decision and I hear that they might repeal the tariffs. All this is very ironic because Canadian softwood lumber exports to the US actually increased following the tariffs. Go figure.

Trade disputes happen all the time. Canada is going through a pickle of one vs. the Brazilians in small aircraft manufacturing. Looks like the WTO might vote against the Canadians on this one.

P.S. Mark: A lot of Americans have lost manufacturing jobs because companies moved them to Canada due to cheaper labor costs. It might not be fair, but thats part of life. What is the government doing to protect their rights?

[Edited 2003-01-25 19:36:24]
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:41 am

When you say that France and Germany aren't helping the US today, in the same way the US helped them during the world wars, I have to ask you one thing. Don't you see a difference between the world wars and what is happening today in the Middle east?

If the US was under an invasion, I am pretty sure, and I think you can be too, that all of your friends in Europe would do their outmost to help you.

However, this isn't the case today. It's very hard justifying to strike back in advance.

Staffan
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 8:14 am

Arabs are Semites as well. NOT just the Jews.

Congratulations! You just made Boeinginpdx's point!  Laugh out loud

TNNH
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 8:19 am

Boeing in pdx - don't leave dude. I left in a fit of pique last year and really regretted it, and had to ask Johan for my username back. Nobody has a monopoly on the truth - just because you don't agree with some people doesn't mean you should leave. Come on back buddy  Smile
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 10:05 am

bye

(you'll be back, it's not like this is 'real' life)
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 4:36 pm

Rai, thanks for correcting me on the US Lumber Situation. I understand that the US loses manufacturing jobs daily to cheaper labor, but like I said before, generally the Govt. tries to help its interests and it citizens. Many of the displaced workers recieve technical training, unemployment pay, and other new job placement opportunities courtey of Uncle Sam.

Staffan, Germany attacked France TWICE. We helped TWICE. We were attacked by Terrorists. Are we being helped by those countries? There are NO differences between the two situations.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:04 pm

Guys,

Another, "I am going to delete myself post". I often wonder at the mentality of people who post these things. Is it a cry for help? A cry of frustration? A feeling of helplessness? Or a very selfish attempt at getting attention?

Why not just delete yourself and be done with it?

After all it's a faceless internet site where most of us don't know each other. MattD could be a 7 foot drag queen with a husky voice or he could be a 27 year old blonde babe fooling you all. (I've got bets on the drag queen - but thats another story... lol)

Although many of us have met people from here there is still a lot of people we wouldn't know from a bar of soap and therefore you really should take this site lightly enough.

Most of the member would probably be honest and *who they say they are* but you never know. Enjoy the differences of opinion and ask yourself why people think this - when you have the answer then you can effectively counter someones claims if you wish to do so.

How many *American Bashing* whining threads do we see? Compared to say countries in other parts of the world? What is this phenonema?

Strangely, having spent considerable time in the USA and enjoyed it, I have come to realise that many of her people simple don't see what happens in the rest of the world or understand the cultural differences - whereas a lot of us have news from America (usually only car chases, shootouts, warmongering et al) that is not portraying the country in a pleasant manner.

Many of you may criticise my opinions, but they are based on being educated in my opinions and obviously coming from a different mindset than the average yank. The same can be said with people from all over the globe. However, being the largest western nation and most powerful is always going to create world jealousies etc etc. Just live with it. But try and understand *why* people are critical.

But to everyone out there, remember one thing, be thankful that the USA (being the only superpower left) is a democratic and free nation, imagine if she pulled her head in and said *stuff you all* or was a very nasty regime..

The world could be a very different place.

I'm proud our country is sticking with USA in the war on Terror and in the pre-empt on Iraq.

Cheers,

mb
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 5:20 pm

I'm proud our country is sticking with USA in the war on Terror and in the pre-empt on Iraq.



You should be Mx5!! A big thank you to Australia and the other Countries of the World who are allied with the United States and will stick with us as we kick the Terrorists A$$!!!
 
Turbolet
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Sun Jan 26, 2003 9:16 pm

Anti-Semitism?

Viva Malta! We speak a language of Semitic origin here.
Jien hawn kont u hawn se nibqa, jghidu x' jghidu! (I was here and I'll stay here, no matter what people say!)
 
lubcha132
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Mon Jan 27, 2003 8:11 am

there are plenty of anti-semites (who should choke) and anti-americans, and there is sometimes a double standard, but i just avoid that stuff.
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Mon Jan 27, 2003 8:51 am

actually, I dont think there are many (if any) anti-semites or anti-americans here, there are simply people who like to express their opinion and a whole bunch of people who get upset at that and like to name call.

There are also a couple of childish people who make silly comments like "they should choke".....



ADG
 
EGGD
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Mon Jan 27, 2003 8:58 am

I consider this site biased against Jews and Non Europeans!

lol, just noticed this... ok about 65% of this board isn't from Europe, so how can it be biased against non europeans if they are the majority?

I think you are just looking at it from the wrong perspective, you only take people who have differing opinions to yours into account...

*yawn* if you are going to be so short sighted there is no use for you here anyway...
 
david b.
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Mon Jan 27, 2003 9:29 am

How about arabs, blacks and asians? They dont count I guess  Yeah sure Yeah sure Yeah sure Yeah sure

-See Ya
Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
 
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Mon Jan 27, 2003 12:34 pm

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out. And if anyone else is afraid of debate, feel free to follow him.
Dear moderators: No.
 
redngold
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RE: I Am Leaving A.Net

Mon Jan 27, 2003 2:23 pm

Heh heh heh my plan to eliminate all whiners is working...  Acting devilish

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