wardialer
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Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Tue Jan 28, 2003 2:29 pm

Last night I was listening to this man on Ham Radio (KG6RLP) and he was telling us that a while back this B747 had flown into an ash cloud from an erupting volcano and had its all 4 engines fail. The aircraft was flying at about 39000 feet (FL390) and plumeted until about 11000 or 9000 feet until they had finally restarted all engines. He also stated that the B747 suffered airframe damage from the extreme G-forces.

Had anyone heard about this story? By the way, he is an experienced private pilot and to ALL people that think private prop aircraft are unsafe, than you are all wrong. He told us that it is just CARELESSNESS!!. That some pilots wont even do a walk around. He also told this story about this one pilot that he went up airborne forgetting that he still had his aircraft's flaps locked up from a piece of nail. (He had the nail there to protect the flaps from moving around from the wind) But evidentally he forgot to take it out and just crashed after a few hundred feet from the ground and crashed on a tree. All people were killed in that crash.
 
IndianGuy
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Tue Jan 28, 2003 2:49 pm

If i remember, it was a BA jet flying towards Australia.

-Roy
 
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Tue Jan 28, 2003 2:53 pm

Yes, this happened. It was a British Airways flight over Indonesia, from Java to Perth, during the eruption of Mt. Galunggung in 1982. Here are some links:

http://www.bom.gov.au/info/vaac/
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF6/651.html
(photos on the following page)
http://www.geo.mtu.edu/department/classes/ge404/gcmayber/engine.html

The first link includes information about fighters that encountered some of the same over Mt. Redoubt in Alaska.


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jayhup
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:05 pm

Speedbird 009.....

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apathoid
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:41 pm

JAL...they landed in Anchorage, Alaska.
 
TWAL1011
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:46 pm

I thought they landed in Jakarta...

Lemme go look.
 
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:56 pm

Jakarta is my recollection as well.
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apathoid
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:58 pm

I was wrong..but not by as much as you all are saying. It was:

DEC.14.1989 747-406 PH-BFC 23982 K L M Anchorage area/AK/USA all four engines failed when flying through ashcloud of Mount Redoubt; pilots managed to restart the engines at ~FL180
 
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:14 pm

Apparently, there must be two such incidences.

The one that some of us are talking about occurred on June 24, 1992 to G-BDXH. There is an excellent account of it in Macarthur Job's Air Disaster Volume 2.
 
dc863
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:21 pm

TWAL1011 I think you meant to say 1982 not '92. I don't recall G-BDXH suffering any structural damage to it's fuselage. It landed in Jakarta.
 
apathoid
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:31 pm

Could be...I never heard of the Jakarta incident...but I know first hand the KLM flight landed in Anchorage, with no forward visibility due to the sand blasted windshield and a couple of engines barely running. 231 souls on board. It is an amazing and terrifying tale.
 
TWAL1011
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:38 pm

Indeed. I did mean '82.
 
paulc
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 4:27 pm

The Captain of the BA flight that had a similar incident was Eric Moody
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 6:17 pm

G-BDXH is now with EAL, so any structural damage was rectified. PH-BFC was only 3 months old!
 
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 6:20 pm

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IndianGuy
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RE: Anyone Heard About This Aircraft Incident?

Wed Jan 29, 2003 8:24 pm

This did happen twice. First to the BA jet flying to Australia.

My pilot friend tells me that this happened to a KLM jet which forcelanded in Anchorage.

-Roy

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