racko
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"Hitlerisation" In British Schools

Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:34 pm

British pupils learn more about Hitler than about the British history, a study by Ofsted, the British school inspection body showed.

"Too few children could tell you which British monarch united the thrones of England and Scotland and who Nelson was", Chris McGovern, director of the History Curriculum Association, said.

Professor Simon Schama, the broadcaster and academic, said that he would prefer history teaching be abolished altogether rather than continue with the current situation in which lessons are restricted to "Hitler and the Henrys".

The German ambassador has complained last year about this isuue, too, after British youths attacked German exchange students just because they were Germans after a headline in popular newspaper saying: "We want to beat you Fritz!"

This maybe also explains the fear some British members here have of us Germans.

Article in Der Spiegel (German)
Article in the Independent (English)
 
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Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:18 pm

Quote: This maybe also explains the fear some British members here have of us Germans.

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RE: "Hitlerisation" In British Schools

Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:26 pm

I agree actually. There is too much focus on Hitler, at the expense of other important events in British, or European history.

It's also a shame that history can be dropped at the age of 13...(I regret having taken that decision, as well as having been given the option...)
 
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RE: "Hitlerisation" In British Schools

Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:27 pm

and to improve the knowledge of the Brittish kids, Blair wants to make history an optional class instead of mandatory...
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RE: "Hitlerisation" In British Schools

Wed Feb 19, 2003 3:08 am

To be honest in school you don't learn close to anything about history unless you pick that subject. To be honest I have not been near or in or learned about history for 4 years because you don't have to pick it. Also it is the choice of the teachers by most part what they teach.
 
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RE: "Hitlerisation" In British Schools

Wed Feb 19, 2003 4:20 am

When I was in school in UK, I studied Pre-War Nazi Germany politics for my A-Level history.

I found that it was very useful, as we digged in to documents of Nazi party politics and their opponents... and yes, when U dig the documents... it gets quite scary how they managed to gain power...

However, unless you study Nazi Germany in that depth, the purpose of the lessons can quite easily be misconstrued by teenage brains... (no offence)...

Luckily I also learnt Renaissance history (Europe 16thC) and British Politics of the 1800s... pre A-Level stuff on history was sooooooo boooooring... (mind U, British Politics of 1800s were boring too)

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RE: "Hitlerisation" In British Schools

Wed Feb 19, 2003 4:59 am

However, unless you study Nazi Germany in that depth, the purpose of the lessons can quite easily be misconstrued by teenage brains...

I agree. Some people actually start thinking of it as glamorous, somehow.

But it is a very important subject. WWII changed the whole world permenantly, and provided many lessons of what can happen when a dictator goes unchecked, among other things. Many have already forgotten.

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RE: "Hitlerisation" In British Schools

Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:54 am

Yes, WWII did change the world, but one must study it in context with regard to the rest of Europe and the world. Focusing on German fascism so intently could possibly back-fire on the educators.

I find it rediculous that history would become optional in UK schools at the age of thirteen? With a country so rich in history, that's a shame! We (in the United States) are required to take history courses well up through high school level!
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RE: "Hitlerisation" In British Schools

Thu Feb 20, 2003 1:20 am

'I find it rediculous that history would become optional in UK schools at the age of thirteen'

Oh, I agree.

Never learned anything about the Enlightenment, Renaissance, the French Revolution, the American Revolution...a shame I have to read books to fill in all these gaps. Still, Norman Davies's Europe: A History serves me well.
 
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RE: "Hitlerisation" In British Schools

Thu Feb 20, 2003 3:15 am

When I was at school, history became optional at 14, if you went on with it (as I did) you could do a straight WW1/WW2 study, a social/economic history of the UK, or a mixed series of subjects, again which I did.
My course covered the history of medicine, Roman Britain, The American West (never really liked cowboy films before, even less so after, the first thing we were told was to 'forget all of them'), then the rise of Communist China.

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