Can anyone actually address any of the points
Well said. Shame on the armchair generals unwilling to take this rather small minded opinion to task. Don't condemn...confront. That's the only way we'll get out of the mess we're in.
Here goes...pass this wisdom over to "your friend":
But it seems pretty clear that Saddam Hussein needs to go.
Then kill him. Look, if Dan Rather can get in the same room with him, so can a cruise missile. This is what most of these people you want to "shut (our) f*cking mouths" are trying to tell you. No liberal, French, Martian or even Arab tears are going to be spilled if Saddam is sent to hell. Why don't we just skip to the end and miss a very awful story?
Clearly he has an ax to grind, and given half a chance, will try and take over the world.
You've just summed up George Bush. Hold it, you say.....no way Bush wants to take over the world. Thats far fetched. Well, its just as far fetched as Saddam taking it over. And you know it.
What would be to prevent him from having exact duplicates of American or British soldier uniforms made up, and sending in a few of his men to come in and open fire on us.
You said it yourself. CNN is there, and Saddam has the credibility of day old dog sh*t. Such a ruse would work once, and not very well at that. Besides, practically all of us have seen The Battle of The Bulge
. It's been done, we get that.
Can you swear by your life that this has no possibility of happening?
If it does, I can swear by my life, worse things will happen in this combat.
Can you swear by your life a massive action against Israel with chem and bio weapons wont be responded to by the nuclear option? Because my scenario is way closer to reality than yours.
A lot of people don’t WANT to consider these possibilities, for whatever reason.
It sounds like you
havent begun to consider worst case scenarios, for whatever reason.
I wish that they would just shut their f-ing mouths and let Mr. Bush do his job. What do these people know that he doesn’t?
Yeah, I heard this one over the weekend. He's got so much more tactical intelligence available than the average person, he knows what's really going on, so we should support him. You know why I think that's crap? Because if HE
DID have data that Iraq was behind the anthrax attacks in 2001, or Iraq was plotting to nuke New York or nuke Miami or whatever.....all he'd have to do is show us the proof, and the most liberal columnist or commentator in the world would support him. There were very few domestic voices of dissent when the US military went to Afghanistan. So there. Even liberals support war when it's just.
Mr. Bush is between a rock and a hard place.
PUT HIMSELF THERE, DUDE. Even if combat in Iraq was the end result, he and his lieutenants could have acted like a STATESMEN and not a collection of hick amatuers in the run up to war. Rummy's loud, obnoxious mouth started the public opinion firestorm in Europe, Powell stayed home when he could have been canvassing Turkey or Jordan or even Iran for base support, and Bush's ingrained unilateralism since long before 9/11 have WON HIM NO FRIENDS. A smile goes a long way, so don't ask me to sympathize with poor Mister Bush. He's acted like A DICK.
If this was about oil, what good is that going to do for Mr. Bush? Does he plan on annexing Iraq as a United States territory? We had the chance in 1991 with both Iraq and Kuwait. Yet we pulled out of there.
And had an open spicket from Kuwait for the next decade (and by the way, no...we never left Kuwait OR
Saudi Arabia. You may remember an unpleasant morning in September 2001....well, our continued presence in those places was a big reason as to why it happened.)
And what good is it doing Mister Bush? Are you kidding? Who was his biggest campaign contributor? Enron, an energy company. What industry does this man and his family know best? Petrolium. What industry does his secretive Vice President hail from? Petrolium. What state does he hail from, and what is that state's biggest industry? Are you THAT blind?
Unless you ride around on a bicycle or a solar powered vehicle, you have absolutely no right to utter this nonsense argument.
And.....who gets to tell me I have no right to something........?????? You??
Yeah we're all hypocrites, we all need oil in our lives. But whenever we suggest maybe its time to spend some serious money on GETTING PAST THAT.....people like YOU call us a bunch of effing tree huggers and then go buy vehicles with worse gas mileage since the 1950s. So why don't we hold a vote. Everyone...and I mean everyone....who WANTS 11 mpg family trucksters, and WANTS top pay a buck 25 a gallon, and gets snotty when someone says maybe thats not good for the country....gets a rifle and goes over and takes the oil.
The idea that George W has a grudge against Mr. Hussein has nothing more than an anecdotal possibility. If that was the case, he would’ve gone in, and taken him out the minute he took office.
It's funny you say this, then go on to say this......
If it turns out that Mr. Bush is wrong, and this is nothing more than a score to settle, then I’ll be the first one to sign the petition calling for the Impeachment, trial, and imprisonment of Mr. Bush.
Now please, for the love of God, try to visualize the state of conditions that will exist "if it turns out Mr. Bush is wrong".
The President, I'm sure you'll agree, is gambling, Texas style. He'll win or lose big. And the first rule of gambling is "leave your emotions at the door". Hopalong has made it clear time and time again that he has NOT left his emotions about Saddam Hussein at the door. That to me makes for a sucker gambler. If this guy were betting the future of his company, or his baseball team, or his cattle ranch, on such an epic gamble, I'd sit back and relax, watching the drama unfold. But THIS ROLL.....me, you, people I love, people you love and the nation we love are what is sitting in the middle of the poker table. We're along for the ride. If it turns out Mister Bush is wrong, trust me impeachment or imprisonment will be a very empty consequence.
Look at China for crying out loud!
YES...look at China for crying out loud. Based on the new Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive warfare to any and all who pose a threat to us, China is on the not so short list. And the harder you tell me that we'll deal with each threat on a level that will be the most common sensical, the more you convince me that THIS threat(Saddam) is about O-I-L and R-E-V-E-N-G-E.
But again, since I don’t know the full story, I really don’t want to comment any further.
If your brother or dad or best friend in the world were about to chopper into the maelstrom that the 'Battle of Baghdad' will become, with a 50/50 chance of survival, you'd goddamned well want to know the full story. And believe me, if they come home to you as a headstone, you'll want to comment the rest of your life. But it'll be too late.
Like Mr. Bush, I don’t care what anyone else thinks.
I DARE YOU to survive comfortably in this life not caring what anyone else thinks. That pair of shoes? They're mine, I'm taking them, and I don't care what anyone else thinks. That guy just flipped me off, I'm gonna kill him and not care what anyone else thinks. The funeral of the guy who was in Iraq is slowing traffic, so I'm gonna burst right through it, and f*ck everyone else.
If you follow laws, or rules, or regulations, or decorum, or good manners, then you apparently care what everyone else thinks, and they apparently care about what you think. If you don't care, that's anarchy. And you and Mister Bush seem to be taking us there at a brisk pace. That will be ALL OF
OUR rude awakening.