Scotty
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Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Wed Mar 19, 2003 10:56 pm

Reports as yet unconfirmed from Bulgaria seem to indicate that Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz has defected or has been killed in a defection attempt.

BBC et al trying to confirm

 Wow!  Wow!  Wow!
 
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Wed Mar 19, 2003 10:58 pm

Aziz was the only Christian on the Saddam regime. This was a smart move on his part, since he was able to move abroad more he had more chances to strike deals away from Saddam's prying eye's.

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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:18 pm

It wasn't a smart move if he was killed in the attempt.
 
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:21 pm

A very first notice on german news: he tried to get out of the goverment bunker and was injured.
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Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:39 pm

who told you that Tarek aziz is the only christian in Saddams Regime?

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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:50 pm

Chris Hitchens will be elated !
Saddam had imprisoned and killed members of Aziz's family, to keep Aziz in line with the regime's policy. Aziz was one of the few members of his government who could present a rational, sophisticated face to the world.
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 12:01 am

Kurdish sources confirm that Iraqi deputy prime minister Tareq Aziz is in their hands and is being questioned by US intelligence officials
 
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 12:47 am

Andreas,

Tariq is the only Christian in Saddams Inner Circle. He is Catholic.

Qusay
President's younger son, 36. Heir apparent and a trusted confidant.He has wide-ranging powers over Iraq's military apparatus, including the Republican Guard, intelligence and internal security.
Saddam's kitchen cabinet keeps quiet

Abed Hamid Mahmoud
Saddam Hussein's personal secretary, who comes from his home town, Tikrit.


Ali Hassan al-Majid
The president's cousin is known as 'chemical Ali' for his involvement in atrocities against the Kurds.A leading participant in the 1996 family massacre after President Saddam's son-in-law, Hussein Kamil, defected to Jordan, betrayed Iraq's weapons secrets, and then returned to Baghdad.


Ezzat Ibrahim
Deputy chairman of the revolutionary command council, close to Saddam Hussein.


Tariq Aziz
Deputy prime minister, has survived as an adviser for more than 20 years. Mr Aziz was born to a Christian family in 1936. Some attribute his survival to hsi lack of a power base in Iraq, which means he presents no threat to President Saddam.


Taha Yassin Ramadan
Hawkish vice-president, one of Saddam Hussein's key foreign policy advisers.


Naji Sabri
Foreign minister and a key member of President Saddam's inner circle.

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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 12:49 am

Thanks...but I guess that was directed at Amir!
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 1:35 am

Could someone post a link to a news article about this??

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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 1:40 am

I am inclined to believe this however, a link from CNN, MSNBC or BBC would really convince much more.... me included.
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 1:52 am

Try this

http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2003/03/19/46292-ap.html

Scotty


Asked to confirm the rumours, Nabez Rashid Ahmad, the deputy director for the KDP Sulaymaniyah branch, replied: "He's in KDP-controlled land."

He gave his location as the Irbil region, but gave no details on when, where or how the purported surrender took place.

Ismail Sayer, an Iraqi opposition figure in the Democratic Platform of Iraq also said in a statement faxed from Sofia, Bulgaria, that Aziz had given himself up.

"Tariq Aziz has escaped from Baghdad to the north region," Sayer said in a statement.

However, the KDP spokesman in the northern city of Irbil, Fawzi Hariri, said: "We've heard the reports and we don't confirm them."

 
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:19 am

CNN just reported on the rumor. There is nothing at this time to confirm this event, so treat it as nothing more than a rumor.

Remember that Aziz is a committed member of the Baath party for many, many years, and a close confident of Saddam. I find the likelyhood of his defection to be very, very low.

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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:34 am

I agree with Charles. This is a very specific rumor though. If it was a defection, I would not be surprised that the allies are keeping absolutely silent about it. Just speculating...carry on.
 
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:40 am

"Shaddap you!"
 
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:54 am

Asis was seen live on TV just now, therefore it is not true.
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:54 am

A German TV correspodent in Baghdad has just reported that she personally saw Aziz today in Baghdad, apparently he visited the few remaining journalists there to show them that he's still with his government. The Video uplinks have been closed down in Baghdad btw.
 
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:59 am

The Video uplinks have been closed down in Baghdad btw.

I don't know if that will make a difference anymore. Nowadays TV reporters carry around those videophone uplinks which go directly to the satellite. Not very good quality pictures, but it works.

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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:08 am

Confusion seem to rule, anyone more than me thinks that Aziz got doubles as well?
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:42 am

ABout an hour ago Tareq Aziz gave a press conference from Bagdad
It was shown on local TV.
He seemed alive and well and repeated the usual theses of Iraq.
 
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RE: Sensation - Aziz Defects!

Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:52 am

Saw it

Thats the end of that then!!

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