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Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:20 pm

Guys, from this war I have been hearing alot about the different US combat units that will participate.
I have a question to ask, its kinda lame but I wanna ask anyways because Im not too sure if what I know is even correct. What is the difference between a squadron and a division? Are there any differences?

Like 101st Air Division or 47th squadron..

Thanks.

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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:25 pm

I think a squadron is a smaller group that is in a divsion. Hope that makes sense?
 
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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:32 pm

Generally in groundforces, a division is made up of about 10000 people (give or take, depending on the type of division).
A squadron (AFAIK only squadrons so designated in groundforces are tanks) are maybe 15-20 vehicles.

In the airforce, it's the other way around. A squadron is (depending on type etc.) maybe 20 aircraft, a division is 2-3.
In the airforce a division is no fixed unit at all, but a group of aircraft in a flight with a specific mission for that flight.
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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:32 pm

An Air Force will be divided into squadrons (Units of around 15 planes). The Navy might have squadrons of smaller ships like minesweepers or destroyers, and there are sometimes tank units refered to as squadrons, but it is mainly an Air Force term.

A Division is a much larger unit of the army, typically consisting of anywhere between 10,000 and 20,000 men, depending on the purpose (tank division, infantry division, etc.) and commanded by a general.

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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 3:59 pm

The way it runs up typically is this.

In the Army anyway

Squad
Platoon
Company
Battalion
Regiment/Brigade
Division
Corps
Army



Calvary units like to do their own thing, In their case Company's are called Troops and Battalions are called squadron.

It's a throwback to the old west I guess.

The Air Force does it's own thing. Somebody in blue will have to explain that.
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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 4:25 pm

From about.com:

US Army:

Squad- Smallest unit, made of 9-10 soldiers and commanded by a sergeant or staff sergeant.

Platoon- 16-44 soldiers, lead by a Lieutenant w/ and NCO as second in command. Consists of two to four squads.

Company- 62-190 soldiers, or three to five platoons. Commanded by a captain w/ a first sergeant as the principle NCO. Armored or air cavelry unit of this size is called a troop

Battalion- 300-1000 soldiers, four to six companies. Commanded by a LtCol, capable of independant operations for a limited duration. Cavalry units of this size are called squadrons.

Brigade- 3000-5000 soldiers. Commands two to five combat battalions. Commanded by a Col. Armored cav, ranger and special forces units of this size are regiments

Division- 10,000-15,000 soldiers. Usually consists of three brigades, commanded by a major general.

Corps- 20,000-45,000 soldiers. Two to five divisions are a corps, and are commanded by a Lt. General.

Army- 50,000+ soldiers. Two or more corps Commanded by a Lt. General or higher.


I'm too tired to type out the command structure for the USAF, just go here:
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/blafchainofcommand.htm

And if you really want to hurt your head, look at the USN's operating structure:
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/organization/org%252Dtop.html

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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 4:27 pm

Dang, L-188, you must have posted that as I was typing away!

Sorry for repeating  Smile
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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 4:29 pm

I am going to disagree with you on the definition of regiment.

A regiment typically used to be made up of 4 3 battalions of three company's each.

This was changed in the mid 1950's when the military was reorganized.

There are still Regiments in US service.
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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 4:31 pm

That is 3 battalions to a regiment.

There where three companies in each battalion.


This was a pretty typical WWII infantry command set-up.


The Regiment answered to the division.
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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 4:33 pm

Allright, I won't argue on this one, I just got this from the Band of Brothers DVD extras and a quick google search. Your experience is probibly a little more accurate than my research!

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RE: Question About Squadrons And Divisions.

Thu Mar 20, 2003 4:44 pm

I have that DVD set too, Great Mini-series.

Lets use that arrangement.

It was about Easy Company, 2nd Battalion 506 Parachute Infantry Regiment.

One of the things they did different in WWII is that the company's where numbered by Regiment, so that you had Able through Item Company each divided into 3 company Battalions.

The Regiment answered to the 101st Airborne Division, which if memory serves it was the 18th Airborne Corps..

Today the companies would have been numbered by Battalion. 1st bat would have A B C companies and 2nd Bat would have A B C company ect ect ect.

The regiment in this cause would be the unit that would be self supporting with it's own fire support and supply companies.

These days a Battalion has a headquarters and headquarters company that provides the support. Therefore the battalion is now considered the self supporting unit.

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