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Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:00 pm

Breaking news on BBC - 2 Iraqi missiles fired into Northern Kuwait - whether they are Chemical/Biological or not is unknown as yet but all military are wearing gas masks.
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:04 pm

Great. This was totally expected. Any casualties?

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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:06 pm

I am sorry, but I am watching BBC World and it says nothing... Is this on British BBC?
 
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 6:10 pm

It is on BBC Breakfast News here in the UK
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:09 pm

I wonder how far away the missile was fired from.

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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:28 pm

BBCi says it was a scud and was intercepted by a Patriot missile.
 
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:33 pm

A Scud? They aren't supposed to have those anymore. I guess the inspectors missed that one (if that's what it was). I wonder what else they may have missed...

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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:57 pm

Scud? Those are pretty cruddy stuff...
 
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:03 pm

Charles,
out of curiosity, do you have access to the report that Iraq posted? 'coz if they're mentioned in that report, they're allowed to have them, provided they were destroyed under supervision of the weapons inspectors.
 
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:05 pm

Scud? Those are pretty cruddy stuff...

True enough, but they are banned to Iraq by the UN, and they claimed to have eliminated them all.

But I would like to get some kind of confirmation about how far that missile travelled.

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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:07 pm

CPH-R - Iraq claimed it had no scuds. It admitted to haveing Al-Samoud missiles, but those are different and don't have as long a range
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:08 pm

BBC is confirming that it was a Scud, and that 4 of them have been fired so far.

Anyone here still saying that the inspections were working?

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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:17 pm

CPH-R,

For the original ban on weapons with ranges greater than 150 km, refer to Resolution 687, Section C-8-b. As you'll remember from the Gulf War, Scuds have a range far longer than that. Here's the full text of the resolution.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/un/sres0687.htm

For interest, read Hans Blix's latest report. It's quite enlightening. Read pages 21-26 about the Scuds. The first 18 pages of the report is just introductory fluff. Go to the table of contents on page 19 (CLUSTERS OF UNRESOLVED DISARMAMENT ISSUES) and read about all the holes in Iraq's stories - 100 pages of them.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/un/unmovic-udi-working-doc_6%20march03.pdf

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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Thu Mar 20, 2003 8:22 pm

I think we can now conclude that 4 missiles that don't exist were fired into Kuwait by a regime that doesn't have the capability to do so. I wonder what other weapons that the Iraqis don't have will be used against allied forces  Big grin
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:51 am

They weren't Scuds.
And they only had a 70km range.
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Fri Mar 21, 2003 1:24 am

Anyone here still saying that the inspections were working?

Yes they were actually. And as has been shown they weren't Scuds. Maybe if people weren't so quick to jump on the ol' bandwagon when all they have is a media report...a media report for shits sake. No-one in their right mind would take a media report at face value and then start making comments about it; all before it was confirmed.

The way I see it, Iraq was butt-fucked from the very beginning. Even if Saddam did totally dearm, and was able to prove it, Bush would still have found some excuse for an attack against them.

By "agreeing" with the weapons inspections, Bush was able to get Saddam to destroy a good number of the weapons he did have; thereby knocking those weapons out of the equation when the terrorism against Iraq started.

Like I said, butt-fucked from the very beginning.
 
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Fri Mar 21, 2003 1:35 am

When journalists are not able to make the difference between a 747 and an ATR, they can call all the missiles SCUDS....  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Fri Mar 21, 2003 1:39 am

How dare they.

How immature. Stupid Iraqi military.

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RE: Iraq Fires Missiles Into Kuwait

Fri Mar 21, 2003 1:46 am

Iraq fires missiles after US raid
By FT Staff
Published: March 20 2003 6:36 | Last Updated: March 20 2003 16:03


Up to six Iraqi missiles and one apparent suicide aeroplane attack struck near Allied bases in Kuwait on Thursday in retaliation to US-led dawn air-strikes on Iraq.

No casualties have been reported among US and British forces, though full information has not been received on one of the attacks, which struck the north east side of Kuwait City and appeared aimed at Camp Doha, the main US military base in Kuwait.


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Soldiers at bases throughout the Kuwaiti desert were sent scurrying to cement shelters throughout the day responding to the missile attacks, donning gas masks to guard against the possibility of chemical agents.
The Iraqi attacks started at 7:18 in the morning Kuwait time, when a Cessna aircraft released a missile at US Marines near Camp Commando in Eastern Kuwaiti desert, before diving and crashing the plane within 100m of their positions. The missile impacted 40km away.

At 9:45, US Patriot anti-missile batteries reacted to the launch of 3 Iraqi surface to surface missiles over the Kuwaiti border. One of the missiles was destroyed, though US officials said they couldn’t be certain whether it had broken up on its own.

At 12:25, a fourth Iraqi surface to surface missile was launched, though officials gave no details on its impact, except that it did no harm. Three hours later a fifth missile impacted in the north east of Kuwait City. Details are as yet unavailable on the full extent of the damage or of a sixth missile which is reported to have been fired.

British and US jets were immediately scrambled to scour southern Iraq for the mobile missile launchers used for each attack and forces in northern Kuwait are understood to have bombarded Iraqi positions just over the border.

None of the Iraqi missiles appeared to be carrying chemical or biological weapons, and US military officials said were not Scud missiles, which have ranges of up to 800km. Baghdad's Scuds should have been destroyed under United Nations in 1991 but the regime is thought to have at least 20 missiles left.

It is possible that the missiles launched against US-led troops were instead Abadil-100s, derived from the Soviet-era Frog-7 battlefield missile. Two of the missiles were described by US military officials as Chinese-made Seersucker anti-ship missiles.

Military officials also claimed that the missiles did not necessarily indicate that Mr Hussein had survived as the order to fire could have come from lower down Iraq’s chain of command.


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"The fact that they’ve been launched doesn’t indicate whether he’s dead or alive, because control of these things are delegated," said one British military source

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