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And The Award For Anti-censorship Goes To...

Sat Mar 29, 2003 1:44 pm

Al Jazeera

http://www.indexonline.org/news/20030326_index.shtml

BEST CIRCUMVENTION OF CENSORSHIP

Al-Jazeera (Qatar)
- Al-Jazeera's apparent independence in a region where much of the media is state-run has transformed it into the most popular station in the Middle East. Its willingness to give opposition groups a high-profile platform has left it with a reputation and credible news among Arab viewers. But that same quality has enraged Arab governments and the United States - which have sought to have the station more closely controlled.

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The Qatari goverment has described Al-Jazeera as a "perpetual headache". The American government accuses the station of inflaming anti-American sentiment in the Middle East.

That aside, the station has won a reputation for credible news reportings and delves into issues which government owned Arab stations wouldn't dare. Beamed into at least 35 million Arab homes makes it one of the largest satellite news channels on the planet.

Good to see that the work that Al Jazeera staffers have put in is paying off with true recognition.

Now, they just need to launch an English channel, so a great proportion of the world can tune in also.
 
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RE: And The Award For Anti-censorship Goes To...

Sat Mar 29, 2003 1:48 pm

Now, they just need to launch an English channel, so a great proportion of the world can tune in also.

Why? So we can hear them be a PR firm for OBL and Saddam in our native language? No thanks.
 
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Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:05 pm

So we can hear them be a PR firm for OBL and Saddam in our native language?

So that you can hear their perspective on world events without the need for an interpreter.

I get most of the satellite new channels here in a huge variety of languages, and quite honestly Al Jazeera has some of the most objective reporting out there. They are seriously up there with western agencies like the BBC as far as credibility goes.

Al Jazeera's modus operandi for news is heavily dependant on field reporting and has absolutely minimal analysis. They take pictures of the scene, get interviews and present it to the public with the surrounding facts. There are no studio experts trying to spin the news. Its pure, unadulterated facts directly from the scene.

So yes, I'd take Al Jazeera's english channel any day of the week before watching the Fox News Network or many of the other ridiculous excuses of news agencies that the US throws up.
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Sat Mar 29, 2003 10:47 pm

If you go to see Al-Jazeera's offices you will see that there is no where to fit all the awards they got. They are really proud of what they achieved and they deserve it.

B747-437B,

"They are seriously up there with western agencies like the BBC as far as credibility goes."
Sean it is interesting that you mention that, Al-Jazeera was started in the ashes of the BBC Arabia service. BBC wanted to start an Arab language channel, the project failed because of censorship and editorial influence by the Saudi Government and Saudi investors. After it failed the Emir of Qatar offered all the ex-BBC staff a large grant, editorial freedom, and no censorship and so Al-Jazeera was started.

Alpha1,

"Why? So we can hear them be a PR firm for OBL and Saddam in our native language? No thanks.''

I always thought that Americans are above conspiracy theories unlike us Arabs who will believe anything. Al-Jazeera has been accused of being a propaganda tool for the United States, Israel and the Zionist movemen by several Arab governments, just like the US accuses Al-Jazeera of the same thing but from Al-Qaeda. Whenever they have panel discussions they ALWAYS bring people from both sides. If something has to do with the Israel/Palestine Issue they always bring Israeli officials, analysts and journalists. The same on the war on Al-Qaeda, where they always had a US secretary of state official in the discussions.



Aviatsiya,

The english channel is coming online late 2003 or 2004.
 
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Sat Mar 29, 2003 10:54 pm

I actualy like Al Jazeera but a lot of grief came when they read the name of the US Serviceman killed in action. This is disallowed here in the United States until the next of kin can be notified.

I have been trying to get to Al-Jaz web site for days and I am unable to connect. What is going on?

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Sat Mar 29, 2003 11:00 pm

TechRep,

I agree, I also was apalled when they showed blodied bodies of dead soldiers and civillians both Coalition and Iraqi.

The website was down after several hacker attacks which saw the website defaced and text like "God bless our Soldiers" "Let Freedom Ring" etc.... was added.

Also there host in the US decided not to host there website anymore which is now moving to Europe.
 
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Sat Mar 29, 2003 11:04 pm

Al Jazeera's modus operandi for news is heavily dependant on field reporting and has absolutely minimal analysis.

Excellent point. I have to laugh when all the US network "talking heads" suddenly become experts on everthing from weapons to Arab culture. They should present the news, not mold it and analyze it. Of course the networks play these guys up, typically calling them things like "the most reliable news source" or "the most authoritative news source".

Alpha1,

Why so opposed to listening to another perspective? CNN doesn't mind quoting Al Jezeera, so you're probably getting it second hand anyway. Even CNN recognizes the value of other perspectives if not only to "spin" the information in favour of their interests.
 
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Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:23 am

Although I don't speak Arab, watching Al Jazeera does give me a very good feeling what WAR is exactly about. When watching CNN or Fox News, one gets the impression this is a highly sophisticated war with hard any 'collateral damage' and the Iraqi people are happy to be freed by the Coalition Forces.

Watching Al Jazeera one is confronted with the hard facts of any war; dead soldiers from either side, PoW's from either side, terribly injured children rushed to hospital.... That is what any war is all about and not the heavily self-censored coverage CNN or Fox News are giving.

If you really want to see what war is really about, follow the link at http://www.thememoryhole.org. Be warned, images are highly realistic, just like real war.

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Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:50 am

Talking about CNN's "experts".

When SQ006 crashed in Taipei, they brought in this "aviation expert" 2 hours into the crash and he was explaining how "wind shear" could have brought the plane down. This was all complete with a model 747-400 he was holding in his hand.

3 months later this same "aviation expert" was a "financial expert" reporting from Wall Street!

I forgot his name but if i see it again I'll remember.
 
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RE: And The Award For Anti-censorship Goes To...

Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:52 am

Why? So we can hear them be a PR firm for OBL and Saddam in our native language? No thanks.

Alpha1, do you have any idea what you're talking about? American media is very insulated; you get all the news from one side only. Watching international news organization is an excellent way to broaden one's horizons and get beyond the point of localized propaganda. If more Americans would do this, we wouldn't be so narrow minded and ignorant of world issues.

 
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Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:56 am

If more Americans would do this, we wouldn't be so narrow minded and ignorant of world issues.

Nice way to generalize 280 plus million people.  Yeah sure
 
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Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:59 am

Oooo! Mod-wars!

Hepkat vs. Kroc, who'll win?

Al-Jazeera is actually pretty balanced, especially given the circumstances and region. There's very little analysis, more focusing on the facts.

Alpha 1, if you say Al-Jazeera is a tool for Osama bin Laden, what does that make the other news channels who inevitably pick up on the story once Al-Jazeera has shown it?
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Sun Mar 30, 2003 2:12 am

Hepkat will win. KROC is not a very good mod to begin with.
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Sun Mar 30, 2003 2:16 am

And David B would be a perfect judge of what is "not very good", what with his stellar posting record and all.

Anyway allstar, 777236ER was being facetious. Not that I would expect you to pick up on that though.
 
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Sun Mar 30, 2003 2:22 am

Schoenorama,

That site was interesting but just another anti-Bush site in reality. I really like the hard hitting story about how they are taking everyone's "Bong" away too.



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Sun Mar 30, 2003 2:40 am

TechRep

"That site was interesting but just another anti-Bush site in reality."

The link to the site I posted has another link on it titled "This is Gulf War 2" which shows the kind of pictures Al Jazeera shows on TV about this war. Did you even bother to see these pictures?

Apparently, showing the reality of war is anti-Bush, as you will not see this reality on Fox or CNN.
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RE: And The Award For Anti-censorship Goes To...

Sun Mar 30, 2003 2:48 am

Pass the bong Schoen,

I saw the pictures and as you indicated there were graphic. I also looked the site over for "other content" and found it very anti-Bush and pro-drug as well. I just kind of found it funny and thought KROC would enjoy those Bong pictures.

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RE: And The Award For Anti-censorship Goes To...

Sun Mar 30, 2003 3:14 am

What is with this "anti-American" label? As soon as someone disagrees with anything American all of a sudden they are "anti-American". Does that mean that the Americans on this board are all anti-Canadian/Australian/French/German etc etc....

NO! If you are expected to agree with every single tiny aspect of US culture, politics (specifically foreign policy) and place in the world, to avoid being called anti-American, then I guess EVERYONE is.

Stop and think before you throw this stupid and increasingly meaningless chestnut around.

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