jm-airbus320
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What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:42 am

Ok here goes.........I'm doing a research in religious studies and I need to get information of the beliefs of particularly "christians (or persons of similar belief)" as to the colour that they have been taught to accept that Christ is. I tried using google and yahoo, but I think since there is such a varying degree of nationalities here, this would be a good place to get answers.
Ok just for those who may not completely be sure what I am asking, here it is again. I am presently doing a research in religious studies and I need to gather information as to the colour that Christ is portrayed in christian or near christian nations around the world. I would be very appreciative if you guys would help me out as I need at least 15 responses. Thank you.

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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 3:38 am

Well, we know that Christ is from the House of Israel, aka Jewish. So, whatever color Jews were at the time is the color that Christ was.

But why does that matter?

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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 3:40 am

The world would be a happier place if Jesus was actually bright green.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 3:41 am

Well that depends a lot on who you ask. Since no photographic records of Christ exist, nor are there any people alive that saw Him, it's open to a lot of conjecture.

Since the whole Christ issue is a lot about Faith (to some degree molded and twisted to conform to your particular circumstances), depending on who you ask, Christ will appear "similar" to them.

If you ask a White male, Christ will "look" somthing like Hank Williams Jr. Or at least a long haired White man. If you ask a Latin Catholic what Christ looked like, (s)he will say that Christ bears a resemblence to-say-Enrique Iglesias (i.e. a Latino).

a Black Baptist will say that Christ resembles Clarence Thomas or Bob Marley.


And so on...


and someone like We're Nuts will either say that Christ never existed, or if He did, "He" was a black, homosexual, handicapped...err..handiCAPABLE 78 year old woman.


In short, there is no "true, "known" answer to your question. I don't even want to speculate. Because to me, it doesn't matter. Christ was the Son Of God sent down to earth to die for our sins. For me, that's good enough.
 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:01 am

Of course growing up in the West you're bombarded with images of the White Christ, so I suppose that's what he looks like in my imagination. Historically however, he'd resemble a short, olive-dark skinned man of Middle East origin, probably with curly black hair. This is for a variety of reasons:

1) People were much, much shorter at the time (average height was probably no more than 5 feet). Our artificially fortified and enriched foods allow us to grow to our maximum allowed height, a trend which started after the industrial revolution. Ironically, this is why the Shroud of Turin most likely does not depict the true Christ as it outlines a man over 6 feet tall. He would have been a fearsome giant back then (like Goliath, who was probably only as tall as Michael Jordan) whereas the Bible describes him as having common features.
2) There are Caucasian Jews today because of mixing and interbreeding with Europeans after the Jews were conquered and scattered several centuries ago.
3) Being from the hard working class (his father was a carpenter), Jesus probably would have appeared as someone used to hard labor, probably with sinewy hands and a lean, sunburned figure. It is highly unlikely that he would have had those tender, effeminate features we see in popular depictions. Only the idle nobility could come anything close.

And contrary to the hopes of some in the Black community, Jesus was most definitely NOT a black man.

 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:03 am

My sentiments fairly mirror those of Matt D. But if I had to guess I would say he was probably olive skinned. He was born in Bethlehem (Same Bethlehem as today). The Jews came from Abraham, and Abraham came from what is now Iraq. You have to admit God picked a great place for Jesus to be born in light of current White/Black controversy because Israel was the crossroads for travel between Europe and Africa.

I would also like to say that technically all people are the same basic color the same way that pink and maroon are both red in varying degrees all people are colored by melanin in varying amounts.
 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:12 am

Well, I was raised in a church that had the famous painting of the blue-eyed, light-brown-haired Jesus, but my mother's church had a mosaic of a much more Greek-looking Jesus above the chancel.

As I have grown up and matured I think of Jesus as looking much more like the Palestinian youth of today, with one exception: He has a beard. In my mind's eye He is:

About 5'10"
Thin, but relatively muscular especially around the shoulders (He was a carpenter)
Black hair
Brown eyes
His face is more "square" than "round"
High cheekbones
His beard isn't very full or long, rather scruffy looking
He usually wears a head covering of some sort, perhaps like today's yarmulke

Just my thoughts.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:22 am

Well, I was raised in a church that had the famous painting of the blue-eyed, light-brown-haired Jesus, but my mother's church had a mosaic of a much more Greek-looking Jesus above the chancel.
As I have grown up and matured I think of Jesus as looking much more like the Palestinian youth of today, with one exception: He has a beard. In my mind's eye He is:
About 5'10"


I'd have to disagree about the height. As noted elsewhere, people were a lot shorter back then, someone 5'10" would have towered over most everyone. The fact that the Gospels say nothing about height make it sort of unlikely that Jesus would have been much taller than average.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:26 am

He was a pale Irishman. Everyone knows that.

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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:31 am

Redngold- Your description looks like a singles ad!

I would go with a slim bearded man that is white. Long hair, but not a mullet. But if Jesus did have a mullet, it just makes that hair cut so much better.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:35 am

He's white and anglo-saxon. I have no doubt.

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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Wed Apr 16, 2003 4:36 am

I am not of the Judeo-Christian faith, but for those of you who are, there is a beautiful book by James McBride titled "The Color of Water." It is a memoir of the son of a white Jewish woman who married a black Christian man. The family faced discrimination but held their heads high because McBride's mother taught him to believe that God, "was the color of water", and because "water doesn’t have a color," the family saw themselves as equal to both blacks and whites.

I guess this doesn't speak to the ethnic origins of the historical Jesus, but it speaks volumes about the notion that it shouldn't really matter.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 3:24 am

Maybe Jesus looked like one of the guys from the Blue Man Group? Ya know, bald... totally blue... black turtle neck sweater... oh yeah that's my Christ.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 3:26 am

I believe Christ was white (probably not blonde north European, but dark haired white).
 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 4:15 am

Being as short as I am, I tend to overestimate height. Let's try more around 5'5" then. But his skin color is definitely darker than white, more olive color like today's Palestinians (as I said before.)

AA61hvy, I don't mind that it sounds like a singles ad, after all, as a believer I am part of the bride of Christ!  Smile

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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 4:41 am

Jm,
I think your question is a bit ambiguous? Are you asking how we personally tend to view Jesus in our heads, or specifically waht we've been TAUGHT, as you mentioned? This is a very important difference. I, for instance, guess I tend to picture Jesus with pretty light skin just because that's what most people I see look like, and it's quite natural to imagine Jesus being 'one of us'. That's why I have no problem with Jesus being prtrayed as black, white, whatever. it's really not important, but I guess I see him as white. However, this absolutely does NOT mean thatI've been TAUGHT that Jesus was white. So, I don't know how to answer your question. I've gone to church for a long, long, time and I've never heard anyone TELL me that Jesus was white. If it comes up, the usual answer is the likely historical one, à la Hepkat's response. I've also heard that, being from Nazareth, Jesus was probably quite a bit darker than most of the Jews in Jerusalem, and was likely subject to some racism.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 5:49 am

The Catholic Religion (which I belong too ) pictures him as being blonde and with the most beautiful blue eyes and very light skinned - I think the religion is a bit off on the image - I would imagine he was a bit darker
By the way we Hispanics do not imagine Christ to be anyhting like Enrique I glesias- he is imagined to be quite the opposite.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:08 am

Every picture of Jesus that I've ever seen portrays a very white Jesus with gentle features who definately doesn't look like a carpenter. More like a non-working hippie, I'd say.

Personally, I don't ever think about what Jesus looks like. Doesn't matter to me.
 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:37 am


Well, Chepos... Big grin

Just a small note. is there a "Catholic" religion?

I thought I was a Christian, which happens to have been raised as a Catholic.

Although in some European countries the Word Catholic and Christian are actually the same thing.

Protestants were something strange. I remember My grandmother had a neighbour which was a protestant. I tried to understand which was the difference, but nobody could actually tell me. It took me a lot of time to understand why the heck were those people protesting... Big grin

But Catholic, is just a type of Christian.

I have seen Christ images depicted in many many ways. From white to not-so-white.
(But then we have so many churches and so many Christ's, and some of them are so old, that they got darker because of time)

I would say that probably Jesus Christ would look like Yasser Arafat or some Palestinian of the sort.

Now that I think of it Arafat is the only Palestinian I know. Big grin
 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:02 am

Well let me rewrite that- Catholics pictures him as being blonde and with the most beautiful blue eyes and very light skinned - I think the church is a bit off on the image - I would imagine he was a bit darker
By the way we Hispanics do not imagine Christ to be anyhting like Enrique I glesias- he is imagined to be quite the opposite.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:33 am

Well, Don't remember having seen a blonde Christ ...

Don't know...
But, also have some difficulty in understanding ... Hispanic ... or what it means...

But the blond Christ, probably has to do with the view the creator of the image has of Christ. I am a Catholic, and I can tell you that most Christs are not blonde where I live.

Yet, there is a difference in which concerns the baby Jesus. The child is effectively depicted with blonde hair.

The one depicted on the cross is usually white skinned and dark haired.
 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:49 am

Hispanic=Latino- These 3 words basically mean the same.
They mean Spanish speaking people or culture - In Spanish they would be Ibero Americano, Latino, Hispano, and a bunch of other words.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 8:58 am




What color is your Santa Claus?
 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:31 am


eh eh eh Big grin
Well...

Hispanic = Latino ?

Latino means Latin.

the Latins are those that come from the Latin nations.
The european latin nations are:
Portugal, Spain, France, Italy and Romania.

Ibero-American, would be somebody from an american nation, with Iberian roots.

Now, Brazilians, apply as Ibero-americans, yet they do not apply as Spanish speaking. Also, Latin-American are those nations or peoples from America, which have latin origin.

So, Canada's Quebeq province is actually Latin America...  Smile. But they are not Hispanic, nor Iberic, nor speak Spanish Big grin.

Most Spaniards (75%) are of celtic origin, so they actually would not apply as Hispanic, in the way the word is interpreted in North America

What a mess ... Big grin

eh eh eh
 Big grin

Just teasing ...
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 9:47 am

From a purely historical point of view, I would assume he appeared as most people of Jewish heritage did during that time period. What we see in movies and such is an appearance that comes from Hollywood and modern ideas. Truly though no one can be sure what he looked like since as said before, none of us were alive and no one from that time period is alive today.

Speaking religiously, it doesn't really matter what Jesus looked like. The point is whether or not you believe in his teaching.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:07 am

The catholic church has it all wrong. Christ didn't look so Romanesque. He looked more like Saddam Hussein....

Go figure!
 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:58 am

First of all thank you for the responses as I managed to scrape (barring all the funny stuff) 15 responses. As for the question, I was asking what YOU have been taught in church to see or accept christ as. I was making refernece to his race and skin colour. I am doing a research that seeks to find out if christ has a particular colour which is dependent on where you live. In other words his colour is pinned to the colour of those who worship him. Once again thanks alot.

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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:17 pm


Jm_airbus 320,

Christ is Universal! he could be black in jamaica or white in canada.
 
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:29 pm

Christ has no "color", what he looked like in his wordly body is most likely that in Redngolds description, after she revised his height downward.
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RE: What Colour Is Your Christ?

Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:34 pm

OK, then I would like to clarify my answer to: I haven't been taught that he's ANY particular colour!
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