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I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:57 pm

Hey I was spotting at GVA and I shot a TG 744. Do you think I might have contracted some kind of virus just by looking at the a/c ?
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:10 am

no . . .
 
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:13 am

only if you had a large zoom lens, the wind was out of the West and it was partly cloudy
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:13 am

YES definitely!!! Don't hesitate, go to the nearest hospital and get into quarantine, at least 8 weeks, just to be on the safe side, without internet, of course, the virus might travel online !!
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:17 am

Isn't SARS very active in Vietnam, and contageous in planes ?

Because I fly at least once a week, and share a flat with a Vietnamese friend.

Worst of it, I've eaten Cantonese food recently (the kind you find in Hong Kong)

And I even have a HK cap !!!

I think my case is desperate *cough cough*
 
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:18 am

Well seeing as Thailand isn't affected by Sars probably not.....
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:19 am

You'd better be careful UTA. I mean did you have your airband switched on? Because when the pilots converse with the tower or ground the virus travels thru it and by listening you notice there are little 'holes' around the speaker of your airband and that way it travels too!

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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:21 am

I heard that CX flies in ZRH with a huge mask in front of the 744 nose  Laugh out loud
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:25 am

Hi,

I am very disgusted with my secondary school as they have let a school exchange with China go ahead! My fellow students are due back soon from China and I am worried about catching this disease!!!!

How could the school be so irresponsible???

Regards

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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:39 am

Yesterday I watched the "Crouching Tiger and Hidden Dragon" DVD without my sunglasses and my face mask.
Maybe I'm infected now. *Cough, cough*
You know, better safe then sorry. Today I watched "Due South" on cable TV.
And you know- Toronto is now on the WHO watchlist. And Toronto is in Canada, and that guy with the red uniform is from canada. Therefore I watched the show with my gas mask on (I knew I would need that thing someday). *Cough, cough*
But the real tragedy comes this evening: I will have a chinese (*Cough, cough*) wok meal for dinner, and pancakes with canadian (*Cough, cough*)
maple sirup as desert. I am doomed.
 
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:54 am

I have a leather couch. I think I have got mad cow disease.

Moooooo.

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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 2:00 am

Looks like the number of members will be reduced drastically in the next few days, thousands of corpses lying in front of their PCs, who coughed themselves to death...and all that just because UTA had to shoot that bloody TG 744.
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 2:38 am

"I heard that CX flies in ZRH with a huge mask in front of the 744 nose." LOL.  Laugh out loud

Anyway, it pains me to do this but...


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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 4:27 am

Go and have unprotected sex with a prostitute......this will take your mind off worrying about SARS.

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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 5:40 pm

(cough,cough) I just submitted the TG 744 pic...maybe some screeners will (cough,cough) catch it...
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:02 pm

But make sure that prostitute is SARS-free...which seems impossible to me...the whole world is contaminated!!
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:09 pm

Singapore Air,

who drew that? It's not bad. Who is Ben?
 
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sat Apr 26, 2003 12:51 am

I had Thai food the other night and the week before I ate....*gasp*....Lo Mein.

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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sat Apr 26, 2003 12:54 am

I had Thai food the other night and the week before I ate....*gasp*....Lo Mein.


How can you post??
You're statistically dead!
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sat Apr 26, 2003 1:12 am


Hey UTA, this is serious man.

Maybe you should do everyone a favour and end it all now before we all become infected by the crap you are writing.

Oh, by the way, have a nice weekend!!
 
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sat Apr 26, 2003 2:27 am

Lo Mein is not Thai. It's Chinese. And it's a chinese dish that one can only find in the USA, it seems. (Based on my experience)

 
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sat Apr 26, 2003 6:12 am

Doc, it was in your Business Times! Do you not read your government's Singapore Press Holdings newspapers page by page?!

Quarantine for you!

BTW, I've just seen a very good bulletin about Singapore and how it's handling SARS very well on the BBC at the main 2200 news tonight. It's very good. I am impressed. The measures were described as draconian by relatively successful and I saw Goh! I'll get a link.
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sat Apr 26, 2003 11:49 am

Oh Singapore_Air

Living in a nanny state is very useful when it comes to combatting a crisis. At least daddy and big brother's always there to tell you what to do! And punish you if you don't follow his instructions which are meant to be good for you. Look at what our Prime Minister said to us 4 days ago: (I tend to think it's like a father talking to a naughty child)

Singapore Government Press Release
Media Relations Division, Ministry of Information, Communications and the Arts,
MITA Building, 140 Hill Street, 2nd Storey, Singapore 179369
Tel: 6837-9666

22 April 2003

Dear Fellow Singaporeans and Residents,

Fighting SARS Together



On Saturday, I appealed to Singaporeans to exercise personal responsibility in our fight against SARS. Only when you follow faithfully all the rules, procedures and recommendations we have put in place to contain the outbreak, will we win the fight. You must all play your part to ensure that there are no holes in our ring-fence against SARS.


Unfortunately, there are still some Singaporeans who do not follow the advice given by our health officials. Some are irresponsible. Others are irrational because of their fear of SARS. Whatever the reasons, they pose a danger to themselves and to the wider community.

The cases of infection at the Pasir Panjang Wholesale Centre show the danger of such behaviour. The family of eight related to the 72-year old man who works at the centre went to see a general practitioner (GP) when they came down with fever. The GP rightly suspected that they could be SARS cases. He called for the special ambulance service. While waiting for the ambulance, he provided the family with masks, and instructed them to wear the masks. He placed chairs in a designated area outside his clinic and instructed them to remain there till the ambulance arrived. However, when the doctor came out later to check on the family, to his horror, they had removed their masks and had wandered off to a nearby food centre and a Chinese medical hall. By not obeying the GP's instructions, the family had put the people around them at risk.

The other case of infection at the Pasir Panjang Wholesale Centre is another example of irresponsible behaviour. The man who worked at the centre had had a fever for a few days. He visited a GP, a polyclinic and two sinsehs (chinese doctors) before going to Changi General Hospital, where he was transferred to Tan Tock Seng Hospital. His actions have created a big pool of people who could potentially have been infected by him.

My advice is, if you are unwell, see a doctor immediately. If you continue to be unwell, go back to the same doctor. The doctor would know that your condition has worsened and would act accordingly. On the other hand, if you doctor-hop or hospital-hop, the new doctor would not know about the progression of your illness and you would not get the best treatment. Along the way, you may infect many other people, including your family and friends.

And be truthful with your doctor. Do not hide your symptoms and history of contacts. He is there to help you.

In fact, if you have SARS symptoms such as fever, cough, breathing difficulties and muscle aches and you suspect that you may have come into contact with a SARS patient, you should request for a special ambulance to send you to Tan Tock Seng Hospital for a check-up. Early detection and treatment will help you to recover. As of today, some 110 SARS patients have recovered and have been discharged.

There is no reason to be fearful about going to Tan Tock Seng Hospital. On the contrary, you may be making a fatal mistake by not going there when you suspect you have SARS. You will not catch SARS by going to Tan Tock Seng Hospital for SARS screening or for follow-up. The hospital is safe because stringent infection controls have been introduced. Indeed, as a result of these stringent measures, since 31 March, no patient of Tan Tock Seng Hospital has fallen ill from SARS as a result of being infected in the hospital.

I am also deeply concerned about the behaviour of some persons served with Home Quarantine Orders. They refused to cooperate. They did not answer telephone calls by our officials, or told our officials not to bother them. Also, 14 persons are known to have broken their Orders.

Apart from protecting the public, Home Quarantine Orders are also to protect those served such Orders, as well as their family. The telephone calls by our officials are to detect any signs of the disease, and to commence early treatment.


For the wider good, we now have to take a tougher approach in enforcing Home Quarantine Orders. We simply cannot afford to have those on home quarantine breach it, and run the risk of going undetected for SARS, or worse, infecting others. For once SARS spreads through the community, we risk losing control of it, and will not be able to isolate and contain it. Therefore, from now on, when a person on home quarantine does not answer the telephone calls from our officials, CISCO officers will immediately proceed to electronically-tag them, whether or not they have broken the quarantine.

In addition, at the next Parliamentary sitting on 24 April, we will be putting through amendments to the Infectious Diseases Act. The amendments are to provide for composition fines, so that those who breach Home Quarantine Orders can be fined without having to be charged in court. The amendments will also provide for jail terms for those who repeatedly breach the Orders. Given the critical SARS situation, we will be putting through the amendments on a Certificate of Urgency, which will allow all three readings of the Amendment Bill to be effected at the 24 April Parliament sitting.

These measures may be harsh, but they are necessary. Taking a lenient attitude will not help us break the cycle of infection. Instead, it may undermine the stringent infection controls we have painstakingly put in place to protect Singaporeans from SARS.

To succeed in containing SARS in Singapore, everyone must cooperate and play his part. We can overcome this latest crisis if we work together, as we have done in previous crises.



Yours sincerely



GOH CHOK TONG
 
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sat Apr 26, 2003 4:17 pm

Fantastic. I love the way that the Singapore Government is moving and tightening its grip.

And as we speak! A BBC correspondant in Singapore is on morning TV!

Civil defense staff at night? Oooh. A tightly controlled country?  Big thumbs up

Singapore's health system has just been praised. Good.
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sat Apr 26, 2003 4:59 pm

What is so funny with SARS here?

Sorry for not being able to take this joke at all. SARS, to us Hongkees, is a sprinkle of salt on the wound. How would you Americans feel if I joke with 911?? What if I said that the first 767 should have impacted the tower at a higher velocity, so that the second plane can be used to take out Empire State Building??

If you're disturbed by what I said in the last paragraph, I tell you I'm just as disturbed by what you said in the last posts.
 
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:28 pm

Dear D-AIGW,

I know quite well that the situation in Hongkong is not funny at all, and being a former resident of Hongkong, who still loves this city, it really hurts me to hear all those terrible news.

But: Some things should be met with humour and the ongoing hystery all around the world is such a thing. What we hear and see on a daily basis is so ridiculous and downright wrong and does serve but one aim: being more sensational than the competitor in order to stir up emotions, if not panic.
I believe it is best to encounter such irresponsible behavious by making jokes.

If this offends you, sitting in the center of the storm, so to speak, I'm sorry, and I am certain that this crisis will be over, too, and I'll be one of the first to visit Hongkong, something I've been doing for the last 20 years at least once a year...and it is not too late for 2003!

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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sun Apr 27, 2003 1:20 am

I have to say the world press have fu**ed Hong Kong with style. You can't even understand how bad things are in Hong Kong, just yesterday a large chinese resturant in my office building shut down.

Planes are now departing/Arriving Hong Kong with as little as TEN passengers, just because the world press have made S.A.R.S a thousand times worse then it is.


Andreas,

If you know Hong Kong then would you think hearing a bird sing in TST is beyond odd!. How about not having to push your way around Causeway Bay as there are no people.

How about no landings for 40 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry guys but this S.A.R.S thing could KILL, yes KILL Hong Kong. People are going to remember this for years. There is no way to explain how this is hurting, there are going to be THOUSANDS of people out of a job.
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sun Apr 27, 2003 1:25 am

True, this is not exctly a thoughful thread, but if Hong Kong is in danger of economic disaster, I would hope you put the blame squarely where it belongs....the government.

If the government acted responsibly and tended to the outbreak instead of hiding it, there would not have lost so much credibility.

Hopefully a lesson will be learned.

 
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RE: I May Have Caught S.A.R.S Today

Sun Apr 27, 2003 1:40 am

Quote:
If you know Hong Kong then would you think hearing a bird sing in TST is beyond odd!. How about not having to push your way around Causeway Bay as there are no people.
How about no landings for 40 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is indeed something that does sound very strange, hearing birds sing in Tsim Sha Tsui...is it really that bad, even on workdays????
I heard from an LH guy that the daily service FRA-HKG, one I often use myself and always love to arrive, has now load factors of under 25%, an aircraft that is usually filled up.

But as I said, humour is a way to encounter panic, and a good one, so please don't take it personally, I'm pretty sure all here do wish that this fu..ing disease does end rather sooner than later!!

btw: I lived in the Western district in those days, midlevels, I guess I would be shocked walking there now, wouldn't I?
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