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Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:15 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2977035.stm

"It appears to be contained, certainly in developed countries, by very good containment and monitoring practices"

Professor Roy Anderson


Let's just hope that's the case.

KNOWN DEATH TOLL
China: 122
Hong Kong: 121
Singapore: 20
Canada: 19
Vietnam: 5
Thailand: 2
Malaysia: 2
Philippines: 2
Source: WHO/ local health authorities



Scary stuff. Btw, the professor's from ICL! My old uni *tears in eyes*
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:24 am

Let's just hope that all of these countries take it very seriously and give their best shot at containing it. From all that I've seen and read, seemingly its just like a bad flu for the average, healthy person. However, people with weak immune systems, chronic illnesses, and the elderly really need to watch out. I wouldn't really be worried, except I have Asthma and a severe pneumonia type illness like this could be hell with that.

[Edited 2003-04-26 19:27:54]
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 3:55 am

interesting that the death rate has jumped. Original reports were suggesting a 3-4% death rate, a jump to 10% is quite significant
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:09 am

I strongly suspect that the figure for China is grossly understated. The disease originated in Guangdong province, not Hong Kong. Hong Kong has the better medical system. Yet the Chinese are claiming they had only one more death than Hong Kong....they stilll have not come clean in my view.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:23 am

It would be interesting to see the mortality rate for those patients in countries with good medical systems.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:26 am

Ok, saying the death rate is 10% is ridicilous. I mean here in Toronto you hear things like "ANOTHER SARS DEATH!" and then they decide to add "The victim was 91 years old". I mean come on! Is that really a SARS death? That was just waiting to happen anyway.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:29 am

I think the revised figure may not apply in Canada but it is probably in the reality for a number of reasons. First of course, is the lower quality of health care. Second, is the larger number infections and apparently mutations as well. They are seeing new strains in China with increasing virulence.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 9:59 am

It's more media hype than anything else. There are many other diseases that are far more infectious & have a far higher mortality rate, yet we don't hear anything about them...
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 10:02 am

I think one reason the death rate has jumped is the fact that China finally came clean. I guess old Communist habits of covering up somthing that doesn't shed good light on the regime die hard.

It's scary, but no one should over-react. If these countries keep doing what they're doing-containment wise and looking for a vaccine, then I think it will all sort out in due time. Right now, containment and using common sense-and education, can go a long way in stopping people to panic unnecessarily.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 10:31 am

"I think the revised figure may not apply in Canada but it is probably in the reality for a number of reasons."

Above sentence should read:

I think the revised figure may not apply in Canada but it is probably the reality in China for a number of reasons.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 10:08 pm

Somewhere I read that the average age of the fatalities in Toronto is 72.

Now somebody correct me if I am wrong, and I could well be, but most elderly are more succeptable to illnesses then younger people.

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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Sun Apr 27, 2003 10:43 pm

I think that the main reason for the jump in the mortality rate is that when they were preliminarily judging it, they would add current cases into the equation (deaths/cases), but would not take into account the deaths that would occur in those current cases. Instead, they only factored in the deaths that had already occurred, thus skewing the percentage.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Mon Apr 28, 2003 1:19 am

I think the revised figure may not apply in Canada but it is probably in the reality for a number of reasons. First of course, is the lower quality of health care.


What? N79969, is that why Canadians live longer and we have a lower infant mortality rate even though our government spends less per capita on health care then the US? The fact that we have universal access alone tilts the scales. The WHO ranks our health care system higher than the US so unless you have a more authritative source (No...Pat Buchanan doesn't count) then your statment is wrong.

The fact that Canada has more cases and more deaths due to SARS has little to do with our health care system overall and mostly to do with the nature of this bug. It spreads very easily and it was introduced earlier than many other nations. We have a rather large new oriental population especially on the west coast, that travel back and forth to some of the affected areas.

Unfortunately, I don't think our health officials acted quickly enough and continue to downplay the threat in an effort to minimize the economic impact. I fear that if they don't soon change their stance, it will get worse.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Mon Apr 28, 2003 1:33 am

Airplay, I think what he was trying to say is that the figure is distorted because Canada's HIGH quality of health care and other country's LOW quality of health care can't be combined.
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:23 am

Canada's SARS infection rate is high due solely to the fact that Canada was the initial entry point for SARS beyond the China/HKG area.
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Mon Apr 28, 2003 5:51 am

Airplay,

777236ER correctly interpreted my statement. I was saying that Canada has a better system than China.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:48 am

N79969,

Sorry! Read too fast.
 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Tue Apr 29, 2003 5:05 am

I admit being ignorant of SARS and the war. It is all very depressing to me, so I have not been following news at all. Forgive me if this question has been brought up, but why are scientists racing to find a cure for SARS yet 15+ years later, we still have nothing for HIV/AIDS? Is it because SARS is an airborne sickness?

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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Tue Apr 29, 2003 10:27 am

It also surprises me that Third World Vietnam has brought SARS under control with just 5 deaths and 60+ cases while First World Hong Kong, Singapore and Toronto have seen 1500+, 199 and 100+ cases respectively.

 
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Tue Apr 29, 2003 10:42 am

I agree with you Docpepz. I would bet there are many unidentified cases in VN.

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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Tue Apr 29, 2003 11:14 am

If I understand correctly, 19 deaths have resulted from SARS from a total of about 200 here in Toronto. That means that the death rate is in fact around 10% in Canada. Higher than I would have thought.
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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Tue Apr 29, 2003 11:28 am

The death rate will likely go higher. The number of new cases is dropping but many people with SARS now are in critical condition.

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RE: Sars Death Rate Now 10%

Tue Apr 29, 2003 12:35 pm

I think Vietnam was open about the problem and actually got it under control. I think they deserve credit. The WHO would not rescind a travel warning unless they were fairly confident to give the all-clear.

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