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'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Fri May 02, 2003 4:02 pm

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=2670302

By: Marc Frank

HAVANA (Reuters) - More than 160 foreign artists and intellectuals, including Nobel Prize winner Gabriel Garcia Marquez, have come out in defense of Cuba even as many of their peers condemn recent repression on the Communist-run island, one of the campaigners said on Thursday.

Latin American Nobel laureates Garcia Marquez, Rigoberta Menchu, Aldolfo Perez Esquivel and South African writer Nadine Gordimer, also a Nobel prize winner, have signed a declaration of support, Mexican sociologist Pablo Gonzalez said.

U.S. singer Harry Belafonte and U.S. actor Danny Glover are also among the personalities who have signed the two-paragraph declaration "To the Conscience of the World" so far, Gonzalez announced to a May Day rally in Havana.

"A single power is inflicting grave damage to the norms of understanding, debate and mediation among countries," the declaration says, referring to the United States and the war in Iraq.

"At this very moment, a strong campaign of destabilization against a Latin American nation has been unleashed. The harassment against Cuba could serve as a pretext for an invasion," it continues.

President Fidel Castro's government has come under unprecedented international criticism from friends and foes after sentencing 75 dissidents to long prison terms last month, and executing three men who hijacked a ferry in a failed bid to reach the United States.

Havana has said the crackdown is in response to a U.S. plot to topple the Castro government after more than four decades of failed efforts to do so.

Fierce criticism of Cuba's moves has come not only from Western government's such as the United States, but also from disillusioned foreign writers and artists, apparently sparking the pro-Cuba drive.

Portuguese Nobel Prize winning novelist Jose Saramago, a longtime supporter of Castro, wrote last month that, "from now on, Cuba can follow its own course, and leave me out," saying Cuba had cheated his illusions.

At the Thursday rally Castro told critics, particularly on the left, that their words could be used to justify a U.S. invasion.

The intellectuals who signed the declaration defending Cuba apparently agree, though they did not specifically express support for Castro's policies.

The declaration concludes with a call to governments and others to "uphold the universal principles of national sovereignty, respect for territorial integrity and self-determination, essential to just and peaceful co-existence among nations."

Gonzalez did not say who originated the declaration but said it would continue to be circulated among cultural figures around the world.
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First of all, if this doesnt prove Castro is dilusional, I don't know what does. Cuba is the very least of our worries right now, and to speak out saying that the US "is out to get them" is totally ridiculous, either that or Castro is trying to garner support among his own people against the US. I'm glad to see that Harry Belafonte decided to sign this declaration, he, like Castro, is very accepting of opinions that differ from his own. Since when do modern-day artists' voices count for anything? The average artist of today is fairly uneducated... As for the Nobel Prize winners signing it...well, I hope Yassar Arafat signs this, as well. Maybe he could convince Elian Gonzales to strap a bomb to his jacket and kill innocent civilians.
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Fri May 02, 2003 4:05 pm

Cuba is so low on the US radar at this moment that you would need a submarine to find it.

My analysis of the situation is that we are just going to wait out Castro's death.

He is what 72-73 now?
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Fri May 02, 2003 7:49 pm

To wait for what L-188? Just curios .
 
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 2:49 am

If the Americans think that the Cuban people will embrace America with arms wide-open as soon as Castro dies, they've got another thing coming. But then again the US may send in its army to liberate the Cuban people from their evil, dictatorial brains.  Yeah sure
 
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 2:51 am

the Americans think that the Cuban people will embrace America with arms wide-open as soon as Castro dies, they've got another thing coming. But then again the US may send in its army to liberate the Cuban people from their evil, dictatorial brains.

I didn't know there was oil in cuba  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

[Edited 2003-05-03 20:17:48]
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 3:41 am

If the Americans think that the Cuban people will embrace America with arms wide-open as soon as Castro dies, they've got another thing coming. But then again the US may send in its army to liberate the Cuban people from their evil, dictatorial brains

Just a question, if the Cubans hate America so much why do they all come here? I mean, it would be much easier for them to go to Jamaica, the Bahamas, or the Cayman Islands. Cuba is just like Iraq, where a very "vocal" minority support the dictator in charge. If you really believe that the majority of Cubans like Castro and enjoy being one of the last bastions of Communism youve got another thing coming.

[Edited 2003-05-03 20:47:14]
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 3:50 am

Jcs17, disliking/hating Castro doesn't mean liking/loving the USA and its armed forces.
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 5:09 am

I understand that, but you have to remember that these people have been force fed propaganda for the past 50 years about the evils of the US, and the same goes for the Iraqis. Some Cubans may not like us too much, and many of those are the same people who supported Castro strongly. I dont care if the Cubans "like" us, I just think that the sooner the oppressive regime has ended the better Cuba will be.
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 6:52 am

I understand that, but you have to remember that these people have been force fed propaganda for the past 50 years about the evils of the US, and the same goes for the Iraqis.

Ever heard of the "Helms Burton" law? Talk about being fed propaganda. These two clowns decided that Canada needed to be penalized for having trade with Cuba. How long have we been all fed propaganda about the evils of Castro?

I'm not exactly a fan of communism or a Castro cheerleader, but I have a feeling either side has many reasons to weary of the other.
 
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 7:10 am

I think it`s time that the States took the high road and said "Let bygones be bygones. Let's start over and see if we can be friends."
 
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 9:03 am

Ever heard of the "Helms Burton" law? Talk about being fed propaganda. These two clowns decided that Canada needed to be penalized for having trade with Cuba. How long have we been all fed propaganda about the evils of Castro?

Ever hear of supporting an embargo? The United States is Canada's largest trading partner and to penalize the Canadian government would seriously make them think about who they are aligning themselves with. Evils of Castro? C'mon! He's a good guy, I mean why wouldnt you want to support someone who has violently supressed free speech and has brutally murdered dissedents families. Call it propaganda all you want, but I'd like to see you go down to Cuba and attempt to protest the Castro regime.

I think it`s time that the States took the high road and said "Let bygones be bygones. Let's start over and see if we can be friends."

That WILL NEVER HAPPEN. We're simply going to wait for Castro's death, and provide assistance from there.
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 11:10 am

Ever heard of the Miami Cubans?
This is all about them. If it weren't for them, we'd have dropped the embargo against Cuba a long time ago, flooded Cuba with Coke, SUVs, manufacturing plants making crap for Toys R Us, and probably a wave of home-spun anti-Castro democratic forces. Unfortunately, now all we have to do is wait for him to kick the bucket before we embark on trade with Cuba again, and he's taking an awfully long time to do that.
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 12:27 pm

One reason for the embargo is that Castro nationalized all foreign companies, most of them American-owned, without compensation. So, there is more history behind the US-Castro relationship than simply a dislike for communism.

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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 12:32 pm

The so called "intellectual leftists" will always defend Castro because he represents their ideal leader and communism is their ultimate goal. Since the Soviet Union is gone, they now have to look with envy @ Cuba since it is one of only a handful of pitiful communist states left on Earth.

Castro is just another two-bit thug dictator. Upon his death, watch the Cuban people dispose of the remains of his government and create a free one in its place.

Oh, and once Castro is gone anyone who desires to will be able to legally buy all the Cuban cigars they want.  Big grin
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Sun May 04, 2003 3:53 pm

Cubans LOVE Americans, just as they love all people who visit there country. They just don't like the embargo that OUR government has on them.


Fidel Castro is harmless compared to our government freinds in Saudi Arabia.
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Tue May 06, 2003 12:16 pm

Ever hear of supporting an embargo? The United States is Canada's largest trading partner and to penalize the Canadian government would seriously make them think about who they are aligning themselves with.

This is the same attitude that GWB is taking with the rest of the world. If you have differences in opinion with US trade and foreign policy, you will be punished.

Why should Canada be forced to respect US unilateral trade embargoes? We are a sovereign nation. Canada doesn't have to go against countries that the US is opposed to any more than we have to cosy up to some of the "questionable" countries that the US sometimes covertly "aligns" with.
We are protecting our sovereign rights and don't need to be pushed around by an international bully.

By the way....I wonder how many Cuban cigars are smoked in the US every day?
 
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Tue May 06, 2003 2:10 pm

Why should Canada be forced to respect US unilateral trade embargoes?

Name one Airplay. Or is this just another anti-American rant?

any more than we have to cosy up to some of the "questionable" countries that the US sometimes covertly "aligns" with.

What about some of the "questionable" countries that Canada sometimes covertly "aligns" with??? Canada's record is no better.

We are protecting our sovereign rights and don't need to be pushed around by an international bully.

The US is not bullying Canada. The US is Canada's best friend & largest trading partner.

Airplay, why don't you give your anti-Americanism a rest?




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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Wed May 07, 2003 2:11 am

Why don't you give your "anti-Airplay" a rest....

Is it just coincidence that the vast majority of my posts are immediately following by one of your posts attempting to put my views in a negative light?

And try to stop pulling that overused "anti-American" term out of your ass at every opportunity. It's lost all meaning coming from you....
 
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RE: 'Intellectuals' Launch Campaign To Defend Cuba

Wed May 07, 2003 3:43 pm

Is it just coincidence that the vast majority of my posts are immediately following by one of your posts attempting to put my views in a negative light?

Ummm...no. Don't flatter yourself.

And try to stop pulling that overused "anti-American" term out of your ass at every opportunity.

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