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1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Sat May 03, 2003 5:12 am

So the new improved (more leg-room and softer landing) Sojuz will land on Sunday, the first space landing since the Columbia break-up....
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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Sun May 04, 2003 11:48 am

Has the Soyuz capsule been redesigned? How has the softer landing been accomplished? Russian capsules always land in the desert and they usually hit quite hard. Does it have a new braking rocket on the capsule? Soyuz will be the only transport to the ISS until the shuttle is back in service again.
 
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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Sun May 04, 2003 12:58 pm

This landing will also be the first time Americans have flown in a Russian spacecraft...

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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Sun May 04, 2003 5:55 pm

Look up www.space.com BTW isn´t the "space-tourist" Tito an US citizen?
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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Sun May 04, 2003 7:00 pm

I can't belive that they missed the drop zone by 250 miles

Took them over three hours to find the spacecraft
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Mon May 05, 2003 4:26 pm

I still prefer the old US method of splashing down at sea rather than making a hard landing. If the braking thrusters malfunction on the capsule you're in for a HARD LANDING, i.e not surviving it. Landing at sea used to be pretty damn accurate too. If you read through all the Apollo mission reports you'll see the capsules splashing down sometimes within 5 miles of the target aircraft carrier, that's brilliant considering they've come back all the way from the moon. Same as Gemini and Mercury- most splashdowns were extremely accurate.
 
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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Mon May 05, 2003 6:52 pm

Actually the most accurate Apollo landing was the one that the controlers had the least control over....Apollo 13.
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Mon May 05, 2003 7:11 pm

"Actually the most accurate Apollo landing was the one that the controlers had the least control over....Apollo 13".

That's right the Apollo 13 command module(Odyssey) splashed down within sight of the aircraft carrier, i think the distance was around 1-2 nm from the carrier. Amazing.
 
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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Mon May 05, 2003 9:25 pm

Did they indeed have the carrier so close? What if the capsule hits the aircraft carrier directly? The chances are pretty low, but never say never.
 
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Mon May 05, 2003 9:26 pm

It would have been bad.

I don't think the Apollo capsules were designed for impacts like that but then again water isn't as soft as some people think.
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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Tue May 06, 2003 2:03 pm

I think capsule velocity at splashdown was around 20MPH- that's with all 3 chutes fully deployed. The astronauts described it as pretty violent.
 
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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Tue May 06, 2003 2:32 pm

I can't belive that they missed the drop zone by 250 miles

Looks like one of the Yanks on board clicked the wrong button))))



Took them over three hours to find the spacecraft
Less the 2 actually.

It took the Space Forces 3 days because of a snow storm once...
Imagine a 100 days in space, 9G's on return and three days in a blizzard!



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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Tue May 06, 2003 6:26 pm

On the news they said that science officer Don Petit was injured during the descent. He has a dislocated shoulder and suffered breathing difficulties. I'm thinking this is probably due to the high G descent(9 G's), is that correct?
 
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RE: 1st Spacelanding Since The Columbia Break-up...

Tue May 06, 2003 7:14 pm

Greg, if you mean an entirely American crew in a Russian spacecraft then you're right, but astronauts have flown in the Soyuz before.

And those carriers had some power. Perhaps not as much as the Enterprise or a Nimitz class, but if they saw the capsule heading for the carrier I think even a mammoth beast like that might have a chance of getting out of the way.

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