captaingomes
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J.D. Power 2003 Auto Quality Survey

Thu May 08, 2003 2:06 am

Here is the link for the J.D. Power 2003 quality survey. Some interesting observations, but I'll let somebody else break the ice!

http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosinsider/0305/07/a01-158047.htm

"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
 
MaxPowers
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RE: J.D. Power 2003 Auto Quality Survey

Thu May 08, 2003 3:30 am

Buying a car now a days is hit or miss for the sub 45k market. Granted, there are some cars built then others, however my Envoy is built rock solid so far after 6 thousand miles. My moms Passat is holding up very strong after 35k miles in one year. However, my dads Camry is allright, it's having problems after 45k miles.

However, I've known people with VW's who have constant problems, who own GM's that fall appart (like our past Jimmy).

Again, I feel like it's Hit or Miss with cars these days in the Sub 45k market.
Maybach has amazingly built cars, inside and out. Some Benzes have major problems, as well as BMW.


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captaingomes
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RE: J.D. Power 2003 Auto Quality Survey

Thu May 08, 2003 3:52 am

One thing that always interests me with these surveys is the difference in reliability between different makes that have similar vehicles. For example, what brings Chevrolet's reliability below Buick? Ford below Mercury? Part of the reason might be actual quantifiable measures, but the major difference I feel is due to the older clientele who purchases Buicks, don't drive them nearly as much or as hard, and therefore wont experience as many problems in a short period of time.

It's nice to see the German car companies on a bit of a comeback, although it seems to me the Japanese are losing ground. There is precious little reason to purchase a car nowadays on the premise that "it's Japanese, so it will be reliable" or not buy a car because "it's American, and American cars are unreliable."
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desertjets
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RE: J.D. Power 2003 Auto Quality Survey

Thu May 08, 2003 4:09 am

Hit or miss sounds about right. It also depends on which model you purchase as well. Some products from one maker seem to do better than others. And there is a lot of variation as well. Nobody really wants a car that causes all sorts of problems, but what it really comes down to it is how good the warranty is and how well the dealer network handles problems. I'd suspect that the makes with lower numbers might also have better dealer networks with bigger and better equipped shops to handle problems. If a problem gets fixed right the first time, other stuff tends not to reoccur.
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RE: J.D. Power 2003 Auto Quality Survey

Thu May 08, 2003 4:42 am

Hit or miss, perhaps, above 45k a car better be perfect. Being that most people spend between 20-30k those are the results that count (excepting gas guzzling battering rams...errr SUV's). Though not perfect, the Accord and Camry do very, very well for their cost--and offer same or better quality that cars costing more. Secondly, where domestic midsizes may fail "initial quality" (what ever that really is) my own 1984 Dodge 600 had 178,000 miles when it was wrecked in an accident, and that was one the original engine, transmission fuel injection A/C etc. It was very reliable, sure the body loosened up and there were a few rattles and squeeks, but it never left me stranded. /i have had good experiences with American cars since then as well.
 
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RE: J.D. Power 2003 Auto Quality Survey

Thu May 08, 2003 5:09 am

I'm not entirely sure the M in BMW is not for maintenance....but altogether it beats most brands out there for handling and performance at a reasonable price (below the 745).

While I've known a couple dissatisfied BMW and Mercedes owners...it is nothing to the condemnation I hear from GM owners.....
 
flight152
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RE: J.D. Power 2003 Auto Quality Survey

Thu May 08, 2003 6:21 am

I'd have to agree wih Greg. I've had very few problems with my BMW in comparison with many GM cars that I've been forced to drive before I got my 3-series a few weeks ago.

My dads 2001 Olds Bravada needing new brakes at 30K miles is pathetic.
The Horn Breaking on my old car (1999 Alero) is also bad.
 
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Thu May 08, 2003 7:34 am

Kia doesn't make high quality cars? You're kidding, right?!?!??!? Big grin I'm a proud owner of a Toyota  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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