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Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 7:29 am

Well instead of worrying about who they are going to use to try to run against George W. some Democratic Senators have decided to try to attack George for his carrier landing the other day.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/07/bush.lincoln/index.html

If you read the article you will see that it might have been cheaper to have the President fly out by Airplane as there was ALREADY a squandron scheduled to fly out to the Carrier that day. Anyway read for yourself and make your own opinions but this one really pissed me off.

BTW Senator Robert Byrd used to be in the KKK.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 7:35 am

Flying a S-3 should be cheaper than flying the UH-60 to the Carrier.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 7:43 am

"Shut UP Democratic Senators!"

Are we gonna get a debate about freedom of speech? Wow, that would be so amazing.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 7:48 am

No we should NOT start a debate about the freedom of speech. Were did you get that?? I think the Democrats should shut up and pick their battles more wisely.

BTW when Democratic Canidate Michael Dukakis took a ride on an A-1 tank back in the 1988 Presidential Race you didn't here the Republicans making a big stink about it.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 7:57 am

Personally, I want them to keep talking. The bigger fools they make of themselves the more seats the Republicans will win in 2004. If it goes well enough, we might even have a filibuster proof Senate.

Oh, and its always funny how a certain member of this forum calls Republicans, "Republikkkans" while the only known member (past or present) of the KKK that is in Congress is Byrd. What is more amazing is in 1999 he said "nigger" during a t.v. interview and yet the media never made a big deal about it.

BTW, here is Byrd @ past time.

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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 8:15 am

Ah, yes. The Democratic Senators making idiots of themselves again. I think they are going to keep on whining until we get another Democrat president. They are driving me nuts!

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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 8:34 am

Ah, yes, let's tell the Dems to shut up for DARING to question Bush's motives. I mean, he only had a carrier, full of sailors coming home after 11 months, take an extra day out at sea, so he could put on a flight suit, and land on a carrier.

But wait! The White House denies it was done for any political reasons or for footage for re-election.

ROTFLMAO!  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud

How much you want to bet that it's in one of the first "Re-Elect Bush/Cheney" ads next year? Any one care to bet on that?

What a crock of shit. It was intended to make Bush look like he had big gonads, and to play up his role as C-in-C, nothing else. It was meant ABSOLUTELY to be a political "ad" for the upcoming election!

Maybe we should be asking why Bush is using our tax dollars in such a way.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 8:49 am

Alpha 1,

Those saliors most likely felt it was an honor that President Bush choose their ship to give his speech on. The fact that he arrived in a S-3 all the better. Frankly the military overall loves President Bush.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 8:58 am

I don't give a damn what the military thinks of Bush, PPGMD. It's obvious that Bush feels the military is the most important sector of American life. I happen to disagree. The fact remains he spent taxpayer money for this re-election advertisement, and was showboating.

Maybe you think it's cool. I think it a claseless act by a small man.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:12 am

Hey! I think the Republican senators should shut up.



Hey all, here's a doozy story for all of you guys. Some democratic senator or representative or something along those lines named Max Kleelan (sp?), who is a democrat, and was in office for I believe a term if not more before the last elections, he served in Vietnam and got 2 of his legs blown off as well as an arm. Anyway, on those bashing commercials, some STUPID REPUBLICAN put his picture in a split screen with Saddam Hussein, saying that Max Kleelan was anti-american because he did not believe the war was just.

I don't care if you are a republican or democrat, if this story doesn't tell you something about politics, you have an IQ of peanut butter.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:18 am

Bush is the commander in chief of the military, it's his place to be on that ship. He's as much a part of the military as the people on that ship and hey- I'd fly an S3. Maybe he wanted to get back in a flight suit, he was a fighter pilot once.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:23 am

His name is Max Cleland. He awas a Vietnam Vet-he lost his limbs in Vietnam, but the GOP felt that, from his chair, he didn't Goose-Step high enough and salute Bush well enough, and became the target of an ambomnible campaign questioning his patriotism.

Nice people, these radicals of the right.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:27 am

He's as much a part of the military as the people..

No, he's not part of the military. He's a civilian C-in-C. He's not military. Unless you want him to wear a military uniform all the time, is that what you want? That's the next step in the kind of militarism Bush is pushing.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:29 am

Did you assume that all by yourself, Alpha1? Last I checked he's #1 on the chain of command. Hmmm.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:33 am

Hey Alpha 1......if you want to piss the guy off ask him if Clinton was also part of the military as Bush is.  Smile
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:38 am

Maybe we should be asking why Bush is using our tax dollars in such a way.

Guess he just figured Clinton spent all the dignity of the office, so that was all he had left!
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:39 am

ROTFL, Hamfist, you may have a point there.  Laugh out loud
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:08 am

Alpha 1,

I don't give a damn what the military thinks of Bush

Hmmm then why did you say this:

I mean, he only had a carrier, full of sailors coming home after 11 months, take an extra day out at sea,

It sounds like you care.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:15 am

I care only to the point that he was using them to make a made-for-TV ad for next year. That's it.

As for the rest, the amount of militarism that Bush is injecting into this country-partly through raising up the military to unheard of hieghts, and partly through fear of another 9/11, is truly frightening.

I imagine, after he gets re-elected, he'll go around wearing his National Guard digs.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:21 am

Alpha 1,

I've been worried about the extreme increase of your insults towards Bush.

Debating about his landing on a carrier is simply stupid, and nothing but.

The argument about how expensive it was..................well, it's NO MORE EXPENSIVE, and probably much cheaper, to hitch a ride on an S-3 that was already scheduled to fly, then to load up a bunch guys on a big expensive chopper to fly out to the boat. Some of my best friends are in the armed forces, and they sincerely back me up on that.

The argument about the photo-oppurtunity............well, there really is no argument, because anywhere and everywhere the President of the US goes, is a photo-op. What's the need to point this out?

Bush mainly did this to show his sincere respect for the military. I think some of those sailors should walk into Congress and tell those assholes complaining about this to shut the hell up. I have no doubts that most if not all of the crew members of that ship were happy to stay onboard a few more hours to watch their very Commander-In-Chief land in one of their planes, on their boat.

And of course, Bush also did this for publicity, but what the hell is wrong with that? Every president in the US has done all kinds of things pertaining to publicity, and now since Bush is doing it, just like Gore would've done it, the lefties are whining and crying their little asses of. Talk about hypocrites.  Insane

I remember you said you would support Bush even though you don't agree with the war. I know no WMD have been found yet, but it hasn't been that long. Ironically, Bush's approval is rising, but you're approval has drastically fallen. Why is that?

I also believe the lefties are getting desparate and making even more complete fools of themselves, making cheap, hypocritical shots towards Bush, and they fail to see it.

Just my 2 cents.




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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:23 am

BTW Alpha, don't take that the wrong way.

I still respect you probably more than anyone else on these boards, regardless of this political mess that's going on right now, and regardless of all the political threads on here to which our views might differ.

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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:35 am

NWA742, I politely disagree with your views on this one.

I think this guy is sending us places that we will soon regret we ever let him take us. He's instilled a sense of entitlement, of arrogance, of intolerance that is not what America is about. He threatens friends who dare have different opinions and views that his; he sits idly by, in silence, as acts of intolerance go on around the country; he continues a spirit of war in this country, and threatens still more nations in the process.

I don't propose that we swing, like a pendulum, wildly back to far left of center by electing a nut (or assortment thereof) like Sharpton, or Mosley-Braun or Kucinnich. But I am very worried as to how far we're swinging to the right, and what it means for the future of this nation and of the planet that we share with others.

America was not made to govern from either extreme, and, if you look through out history, we rarely have had that. We've flirted with it, of course-McCarthyism was a prime example of that, but look how it failed and the bitterness it left behind.

I'm simply saying that I do question the fact that he uses such a stunt as landing on a carrier-an overt move to gain nothing but votes and footage for TV ads come next fall. Is it now unpatriotic, or even worse, to question such a thing? I didn't think it was. But in the United States that seems to be forming under Bush, it seems more and more that's what it's becoming.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:43 am

You have some great points in there Alpha 1, I guess it's just a difference of opinion and nothing else.

I'm gonna go fly for my Virtual Airline and take my mind of politics for awhile.

Hope you and your family have a good night  Smile



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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:44 am

BTW Senator Robert Byrd used to be in the KKK.

Frankly the military overall loves President Bush.

He's as much a part of the military as the people on that ship


Three seperate responses from people who just seem to skate merrily on by the fact that in 1968, George Bush Sr. pulled strings to keep his newly graduated son out of the 'war for niggers and rednecks', Vietnam, by parking his ass in the Texas Air National Guard (I guess the Connecticut Air Guard was plumb full up). And that for close to a year during that service, this frat boy pussy didn't even show up for duty.

I'm calling bullshit on all of you. If this pathetic record belonged to Clinton, Gore, Daschle or anyone to the left of Tom Delay, we wouldn't....hear...the....f**king....end..of it from you crass right wing apologists. As it is we heard 8 years of 'draft dodger' about Clinton just because he wrote back from England (where he was at ...school) to his draft board that he didn't agree with the war...BUT, in the interest of further ambition, said he would not object to being drafted. He had a high lottery number. End of story. And you people got 'draft dodger' out of that and for 8 years, the """liberal""""(cough..BULLSHIT) media went along with you.

In homage to the Founding Father's solemn and steadfast insistance that this be a republic governed by civillians, no President in modern history has donned a military uniform in an official capacity....even those who more than earned the right to, like Eisenhower who destroyed Hitler and Kennedy who saved his PT boat crew. And likewise, to their eternal credit, the United States Armed Forces, potentially the most powerful controlling force in human history, have ALWAYS acquiesed to the will of civillians. George W. Bush disgraced the military and the Presidency by happily climbing into a military flight suit that REGULAR people have to go through years of sweat , toil and danger to earn.

And his Administration LIED to the American people by telling us the Abe Lincoln was too far out for anything other than a dashing Tom Cruise-style arrival aboard the S-3. The Goebbelesque positioning of the supercarrier, her crew (crammed on the foredeck to give that impressive effect of 'the President' strolling alone triumphantly across those empty square acres of sovereign US fighting machine), the F-18...all belied the fact that had the damn camera turned 180, you'd see the skyline of San Diego.

L-I-E. Not about a blowjob to a 'special prosecutor'. LIE to all of us. And you shills bought it hook, line and drooling sinker.

I don't know what the f**k Senator Byrd was, what he belonged to, where he was born or what his favorite flavor of ice cream is. But I do know the guy has a look and demeanor about him that oozes time earned wisdom. And God Bless Him for, a man who's patriotism and devotion to America cannot be called into question, standing up and chiding this spolied brat egomaniac we have in the White House.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:50 am

I think a former member of the military put it best:

Ha...you are right Jarhead, it was way super cool to see our president walking tall on the carrier. And WE put him there. From the welders that laid the keel of that ship...to the boys and girls that crew it, to the people that go to work each and every day, to pay the taxes to foot the cost.

I do feel proud.


I think the President is the right man for the job and one that I am proud to have an opportunity to vote for him in 2004.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:52 am

PPGMD, you have my deepest sympathies. And I'm not joking.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:56 am

Hear hear Heavymetal. The fact that Republicans (I assume) would even DARE to tell Democratic Senators to "shut up" after what Clinton went through, is enough to make me realize what hypocritical bastards some people can be.

Waaahhhhhhhhh! Some people DARE to criticize bush (emphasis on lower case). Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!

Give me a break. Suck it up and admit it was a good photo-op by a completely "patriotic" NATIONAL GUARDSMAN. Is there anything Bush didn't get handed to him on a silver platter by Daddy? Anybody?
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 11:21 am

And Alpha1 you have my deepest sympathies in 2004 when all you have is a lame duck to vote for.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 11:29 am

Who is this lame duck you're talking about, PPGMD?
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 11:46 am

NWA742,

Great commentary by your post!  Big thumbs up

I think the Democrats are just doing a major, major case of sour grapes because we have a President that is truly well-liked by the military, and in fact the crew of the USS Abraham Lincoln definitely liked that gesture of support.

Besides, what do the Democrats offer as their candidate for 2004? At the first debate last Saturday it was one of the more sorry bunch of politicians I've seen in a long, long time.  Insane
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 11:57 am

At the first debate last Saturday it was one of the more sorry bunch of politicians I've seen in a long, long time.

Funny, I seem to remember hearing that exact same thing, oh, about 11 years ago, when another wartime president named Bush was riding high on a military victory, while the economy went to hell.

The parallels between 1992, and 2004, up to this point, are very intriguing.
 
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A US Senator Saying Something Stupid?

Thu May 08, 2003 1:41 pm

Oh please, perish the thought!

Come now, is the trait purely a function of the party they belong to? I think not. They're all pond scum.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 1:48 pm

The article clearly states that the carrier was not delayed at all, anyway, and that S-3 training flights were occuring as well. Personally, I'll bet that Bush would've rather flown in an F-14, but an S-3 is still way cool.

Why the White House said that the carrier was too far away for a helicopter to make on the day of Bush's landing I do not know, but Bush himself didn't say that, some White House flunky did. Look at the disagreements between Bush and his State Department. Not everything the White House does is sanctioned and approved by Bush.

And let's not get into that political junta of Hillary's that require BOTH 707s just to carry all of her adoring admirers, press corps, and political flacks. Not to mention her luggage. (I'm sorry, that was a very partisan thing to say, wasn't it?)
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 1:56 pm

"And let's not get into that political junta of Hillary's that require BOTH 707s just to carry all of her adoring admirers, press corps, and political flacks. Not to mention her luggage. (I'm sorry, that was a very partisan thing to say, wasn't it?)"

Not in the least partisan. What I seem to see is that people, even those on this board, ignore the fact that every spectrum in politics act in the same manner. Maybe someday people will see this and we will have true government as envisioned in the late 18th century. (US example only)
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 3:02 pm

There is nothing wrong with what President Bush did. If this is such a big deal, then why don't people complain that the President uses Air Force One to campaign during election season. It costs FAR more money to run the 747, trust me! Besides, anything the President does will be interpreted as political. Maybe he just wanted to take a little pride in the Navy!

He's the President, for heavens sake! What's wrong with letting him have a little fun with it?
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 3:55 pm

Actually it shows how good things are in this country.

Apparently the only thing that they have to complain about is a speech by the commader in chief on a boat that had just returned from a war he ordered.

If this is the most serious issue in this country at the moment, then the president has done a great job....

Or else


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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 6:41 pm

The Democrats have no clue of what to run for in 04.

Yet, they still get over 40% of the votes, or at least they did last time I bothered to check the polls. The only reason that Dubya had to fly in on a S-3 instead of a F-14, was that there was no room for the SS guy in the F-14.

BTW, did I hear that Bush was actually in the right hand seat for the landing instead of a pilot certified for a carrier landing? I know that it was a left seat landing (and apparently, the pilot only barely cought the last wire).

And why couldn't he use a helicopter? First, it was because the shipp was too far off shore (hmm, 30 nm, that IS far!), then it was because Dubya wanted to see what it was like to land on a carrier, and now the official comment is that a helicopter doesn't have any ejection seats, unlike the S-3. Which makes me wonder why he always uses the helicopter from the White House to Camp David and the likes.

.. and for those who said that the USS Lincoln wasn't delayed by this photo-poop, I present you: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27574-2003May7.html
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:19 pm

.. and for those who said that the USS Lincoln wasn't delayed by this photo-poop, I present you

Nope read this...

But both the White House and the Navy said that while the carrier was closing in on San Diego, California ahead of schedule and could have made it to dock on May 1, it would not have done so even if Bush had not been coming aboard because port security and other logistical arrangements, as well as family travel arrangements, all had been pegged to the announced May 2 arrival.

The Navy said when that arrival date was announced, it had not yet been told Bush was planning to come aboard the ship.


The Navy announced to the families that it was coming in on the second. If it came in on the first the families of the crew would not have been there to meet the ship. Also there needs to be a heightened security when the ship comes in and it was not ready on the 1st.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:30 pm

I LOVE EWR, it's pretty easy for the Navy and the White House to spin it after the fact.

Plus I've never heard any Bush supporter give us any good reason why the White House outright lied in saying the Abe was too far out for a helicoptor landing. It was well within range of a helo, which leads to the conclusion that Bush was showboating. Maybe it's his perrogative, but to use the military to film political advertisement is the ultimate in bad taste.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:53 pm

The Democrats have no clue of what to run for in 04.

Bingo!
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 9:55 pm

Goodness, another well thought-out, intelligent, expansive, substantive answer from B757300.

Of course, he may be indicative of the intelligence level of most Republicans, since he so easily buys the constant lines of crap put out by Bush.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:22 pm

How many times did you nubag right-wingers bash Clinton?  Insane

EVERY FREAKIN' CHANCE YOU GOT!!!!  Angry

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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 10:41 pm

Alpha 1 said.

Plus I've never heard any Bush supporter give us any good reason why the White House outright lied in saying the Abe was too far out for a helicoptor landing. It was well within range of a helo, which leads to the conclusion that Bush was showboating. Maybe it's his perrogative, but to use the military to film political advertisement is the ultimate in bad taste.

I can't say why the White House said that the carrier was out of the helicopter range. I don't think they lied though, I think it was an uninformed aide making a mistake.

Like I also said before Democratic Canidate Michael Dukakis took a ride on an A-1 tank back in the 1988 Presidential Race it was obvious that he was using the military for political advertisements as well.

IMO this is an example of partisan politics at its 'finest'. I doubt it will go any farther than this party bickering, however they should start focusing more on the facts and try to get some more substantial facts to try to win the 2004 Campaign from Bush.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 11:01 pm

I don't think they lied though, I think it was an uninformed aide making a mistake.

Another hypocrisy. Had something like this been done during Clinton's time, it would have been "He's a friggin' liar!". But of course, Bush is a saint, and would NEVER lie to the American people! Yeah, right.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Thu May 08, 2003 11:31 pm

Apparently the only thing that they have to complain about is a speech by the commader in chief on a boat that had just returned from a war he ordered

Yes. A war in which the combat, according to him, is over...even though the war isn't. There's a sample of stunning military prowess.

He'll pull this "war" out of his ass whenever he needs to. And you'll support him. Because, as they say, paranoia is now patriotism.

I'm sure the families of over a hundred dead Americans were just filled with awe and pride watching "the warrior" walk across that deck. Their sons and brothers and sisters and daughters bought him that ridiculous little trot.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Fri May 09, 2003 12:04 am

Alpha 1,

I am talking about all the democratic hopefuls, short of a miracle none of them look like a good candidate at this point. Maybe someone will emerge.

The only one that I see that moderate enough to challenge Bush is Lieberman, but he has the charisma of a piece of cheese. He would have to go though some major changes to be a good candidate.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Fri May 09, 2003 1:04 am

Alpha 1,

There are some similarities between now and 1992, but there are some major differences. As of yet there are no viable 3rd party conservative candidates (Clinton only got 45% of the votes). Second the Dems as of yet, don't have someone with Clinton's Charisma.

CPH-R

BTW, did I hear that Bush was actually in the right hand seat for the landing instead of a pilot certified for a carrier landing? I know that it was a left seat landing (and apparently, the pilot only barely cought the last wire).

First off the S-3 was chosen because of the commander was available, second it's certified by the military for single pilot flight. And third it has an excellent safety second. And fourth it has room for 4.

The fact that he caught the 4 wire bares no relevance. Catching the 4 wire happens, it's like a hard landing.

Personally I don't care what the President flies in, but the fact is the S-3 may have been cheaper to fly than the Sea Hawk.

Frankly CPH-R you have proven you know nothing about the US, and frankly I feel however misguided the Dem's can speak up, but you don't know much about of the US and should quiet down.
At worst, you screw up and die.
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Fri May 09, 2003 4:28 am

This just in from the White House!

Yes the S-3B was more expensive than flying Marine 1 out there, $7/hr more (just for the aircraft operating costs). But the S-3B was faster way to get there. Also this doesn't take into account the two pilots required to fly Marine 1, and the cost of transporting it to the particular location.
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Fri May 09, 2003 4:43 am

This just in ffrom the White House

When? Last time I looked, the White House refused (they like to keep secret anything resembling chit chat on budgets. Or energy policy) to release any numbers that went into this campaign commercial production?

According to the GAO, the extra day at sea for the Lincoln may have cost up to a million bucks.

And the security proceedures? Nice. We gotta keep the tub offshore while we check for cranky Moooslums. Weak.

Has the Iraqi Information Minister found his way onto Karl Rove's team?
 
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RE: Shut UP Democratic Senators!

Fri May 09, 2003 4:45 am

Has the Iraqi Information Minister found his way onto Karl Rove's team?

Nah, I heard he was going to represent the Cavaliers at the Draft Lottery on the 22nd.  Big grin

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