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Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Fri May 09, 2003 5:05 am

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/news/2003/05/08/michigan_ban_ap/

What absolute bulls**t.

5 f**king punks from a decade ago get off the hook scott-free, and next year's Michigan basketball team has to pay for their sins?

The school already mea culped itself admirably. Now the NCAA, once a group of EDUCATORS, now the greedy lil minor league bitch of the NBA, levels more grief against kids who had NOTHING to do with the issue.

God forbid the NCAA lean on the NBA to make Chris Webber & the rest to pony up to their responsibilities.....after all, it's the new American credo; Can't dare bother making life unpleasant for corrupt millionaires.
 
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Fri May 09, 2003 5:17 am

I agree, Heavy. I think the school should be fined big-time, but to penalize a bunch of young men, 10 years removed, who had nothing to do with this, is the height of stupidity.

And, it's amazing how uneven the NCAA is in doling out punishments. Michigan gets 1 year for actions of actual players and coaches, who violated NCAA rules. Back in the late 80's, Cleveland State University, coming off two NCAA tourney apperances, worked out Manut Bol, who was going to Div. II Bridgeport at the time. He never signed with Cleveland State, but CSU was given the "death penalty" by the NCAA: no TV, local or otherwise, no scholarships for 3 years, and no tournaments for 3 years. It killed the program.

I guess the NCAA thinks it's easier to fuck over the smaller programs, while letting the big-time prgrams off relatively light.
 
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Fri May 09, 2003 5:51 am

I agree it is a shame that the current players are being penalized.

However, there needs to be a better way of disciplining the school. You can't tell me that someone in the coaching staff or AD's office didn't know that this was going on.

"God forbid the NCAA lean on the NBA to make Chris Webber & the rest to pony up to their responsibilities....." This will be interesting since web has a court date on this one for lying about.....but will probably get off, especially since the booster is dead now.

 
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Fri May 09, 2003 11:52 pm

Tough break for the yellow and blue.

But as a Michigan State graduate and big fan of the Spartans, I will appreciate something else to lord over the arrogand asses in Ann Arbor.
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Fri May 09, 2003 11:55 pm

Stretch 8, this is nothing to gloat about, in all seriousness. These young men who are being punished had nothing to do with this, and shouldn't have been thus punished to begin with. Somehow, those who were involved, like Chris Webber, should be punished, not some kid a decade later.
 
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Sat May 10, 2003 12:01 am

(chuckle)

Two words....."S p a r t a n F o o t b a l l "


You were saying?
 
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Sat May 10, 2003 12:26 am

Spartan football? A period of transition. We last won the Rose Bowl in 1988.

MSU basketball: three consecutive finals 4s (1999-2001), a National Championship in 2000, an Elite Eight this year. Izzo is the best college coach in the business.

I would love to see UM get to elite status, as has MSU. It would be great for the rivalry. Amaker is the man to do it.

BTW Heavy, are you a graduate of Michigan, or just another hanger on?
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Sat May 10, 2003 12:33 am

BTW Heavy, are you a graduate of Michigan, or just another hanger on?

No, not a graduate. But between state taxes and football tickets, I think I've given enough of my money to be allowed something above 'hanger on' status.

Still, it's a great program to be a 'hanger on' to.

I'm afraid the only rivalry that's obssessed with in Ann Arbor is going to weaken the UM/MSU tradition even more......with a bold new power in Columbus, the challenge for Lloyd is not to spend the next 10 years reversing the past 10's record with the Bucks.
 
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Sat May 10, 2003 12:41 am

Ohio State? A fluke. Lloyd will never duplicate the feat he pulled off this year, the the expectations of the fans in Ohio have been irrationaly raised.

I don't hate Michigan. My wife attended, as did her whole family. I almost attended as an undergrad, but MSU offered me a partial scholarship. I did attend UM law school, one of the best in the U.S. But I will always be a Spartan.

And I agree that the NCAA penalty was harsh.
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Sat May 10, 2003 12:53 am

I've heard tell that Harvard Law is actually the UM Law of The East.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Sat May 10, 2003 1:10 am

HeavyMetal, MSU football is different. They voluntarily remove themselves from postseason.
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Sat May 10, 2003 1:16 am

Jet, I was actually referring to their record this past year, but you're right.

Michigan, if you'll remember, removed themselves from this year's post season, PLUS forfeited on their own the Championship earned by the 'Fab Five' team. Apparently to the NCAA that wasn't enough.

Let's see if the Grand Poobahs of Ann Arbor can muster as much indignation about this as they do defending an unfair admission policy.
 
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RE: Ncaa Docks Mich. A Year Of Playoffs

Sat May 10, 2003 1:21 am

Er, Heavy, I seem to recall that the "Fab Five" actually never won anything, including the Big Ten championship. Remember Webber calling for the TO when the team had none left?

The poobahs in AA did the voluntary removal because they had hoped to stave off what the NCAA annouced yesterday. But apparently, according the media reports, the Martin/Fab FIve episode was one of the "3 or 4 worst" violations in the history of the NCAA.
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