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Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Tue May 13, 2003 7:10 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/05/13/saudi.blast/index.html

It seems that Al-Qaeda is not the defeated force we thought it was......
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Tue May 13, 2003 8:22 pm

Let's wait and see when this will become a bashing fest between "Bush haters" and "right wing idiots". Insane Seems like simply beating the "towelheads" up didn't work, as predicted.

In the meantime, I'd like to express my deep sympathy for the victims and their famlies.
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Tue May 13, 2003 8:34 pm

When was Al Qaeda granted a monopoly on anti-American violence?! This could be anyone. No-one in Saudi except a few of the royals want any Americans in their country, let alone defence and military experts (I note Boeing lost a few people). The idea that OBL is connected to this attack or others is ridiculous. Concentrating on one guy and one small organisation is dangerously stupid when virtually every Arab speaking person on the planet resents US support for dodgy regimes and of course Israel. This attack could have been carried out by absolutely anyone.
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Tue May 13, 2003 8:36 pm

It must be Al-Qaeda.....Powell said so! Weren't we supposed to believe him at the UNSC!?  Big grin
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Tue May 13, 2003 9:46 pm

The idea that OBL is connected to this attack or others is ridiculous.

Amazing, Cedarjet, that you can much such a sweeping statement, with so much confidence, only hours after the attack! Why is it ridiculous? It seems perfectly plausable: he's from Saudi; his network extends into Saudi; his network would certainly have as much capability to pull off such an attack on "home turf". So, tell us, why it's ridiculous to speculate that it could be him?

It certainly could be someone else, but to say, outright, as you did, that Al Qaeda wasn't behind it is the ultimate in naivte.

Shows once again that, despite the wars in Afghanistan, which I support, and the one in Iraq, which I didn't, that terrorism is still a scourge on the earth. And, I'm sure Bush will ratchet up the fear rhetoric after this attack. It serves his re-election purposes to keep the focus on terrorism, and away from the economy.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Tue May 13, 2003 10:05 pm

I just meant it as a general observation. A carbomb outside a nightclub in Bali isn't particularly complicated - surely a load of fertiliser and some gasoline with a timer would do the trick? And for this, they need financing from OBL?

And this incident in Saudi is the same: a few blokes with bombs and guns and it's 'international terrorism'? Hijacking jets and all the preparations that go with it (flying lessons et al) is one thing; but these small-scale incidents aren't in the same league. Why would Al Qaeda bother with such small-scale stuff? I think Al Qaeda are the last group I'd suspect in an incident such as this one in Saudi.
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Tue May 13, 2003 10:16 pm

Why would Al Qaeda bother with such small-scale stuff?

Cedarjet, you forget one thing: Al Qaeda and it's leader-if he's still alive-is dedicated to killing Americans whenver and wherever they are. And killing over 19 Americans, at last count, isn't small-scale, is it? It fits their pattern. It may not be them, but they're the prime suspect.

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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Tue May 13, 2003 10:23 pm

It´s a horrible tragedy. My condolences to the victims and their families.

Attacks such as this don´t take much organisation; Some explosives and a lot of hate are quite enough. There is no purely military solution to this. Bombs and invasions can´t get rid of hate. Quite the opposite, in fact.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Tue May 13, 2003 10:45 pm

The idea that OBL is connected to this attack or others is ridiculous.




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This attack could have been carried out by absolutely anyone.







This last sentence is highly ridiculous
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 12:27 am

The attacks had all the hallmarks of Al-Qaeda. No one ever said Al-Qaeda was defeated. Their operations have been disrupted but not destroyed. Even though we've taken out a lot of their infrastructure, it probably doesn't take much to carry out an attack in the Middle East.
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 12:40 am

Al Qaeda is not a small organization it is beyond that!
It's like saying that the Star Alliance is an airline!
AL Qaeda is not ONE organization, the heads of it is, but they are only pulling strings.
The Bali bombing was Al Qaeda, but the men in direct resposibility for the bombing was Indonesian, that had ties to Al Qaeda, their like the UN in function, but with just the opposite objectives!

And please please PLEASE don't compare Israel with ANY of the other "dodgy-regimes"!
Israel is the only democracy in the MIddle East!

This IS Al Qaeda's fingerprints on this one!
Suicide car bombings, simultaneous attacks and the targets!
And Saudi Arabia being Osama Bin Laden's home country, and the American presence being the fuel on his fire of hatred towards the west, this IS their fingerprint!

Also you must remember that the fanatics hate the US more than Israel! Actually!
Go and talk to people in The Middle East, I found much much more hatred towards the US than to Israel, Israel is not loved, far from it, but the pure and dangerous hatred is towards the US...

These are not funny times people! I see the future as unclear, either a peaceful solution to this, where all sides lay down their arms and hatred, or everything escalates into a final show down...

This is sad, but also very true...

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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 12:59 am

To call this a small scale operation is nuts, did you READ what happened? They shot their way into a secured compound, simultaniously breaching the main gate and crashing though the main wall, then detonated their car bombs inside the secured compound.

Yeah, my crazy neighbor down the street could have pulled that one off. Give me a break, this took preperation, training and big $$ to finance. Hell, even the Palistinians don't got to this extreem, the just strap some dynamite to some gullible sap and send him on his way.

If it wasn't Al Quida, then it was some new terrorist organisation with big funding and strong backing in the Arab world.

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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 1:58 am

Ten AMERICANS?! Woah! I mean 19 other people died, and 200 were injured, but ten Americans?!

That's just going too far!
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 2:10 am

Actually I heard that the Saudis are now saying 29 are dead...but another source informs me that the true number is closer to 100 (which may give me cause to withdraw my earlier doubts about a sizeable organisation being involved). Anyone else know anything more?
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 2:20 am

Well, Cedar, 10 + 19 IS 29  Laugh out loud

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/WBT264951.htm

You really have to love the guys response to it. I'd like to see how he'll punish the dead bodies of the terroists.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 2:29 am

..."Ten AMERICANS?! Woah! I mean 19 other people died, and 200 were injured, but ten Americans?!"

"That's just going too far!"...


Yeah, 777236ER, I was thinking the exact same thing. I don't think it was eg777er to discount the non-americans killed as less important, but it needed to be clarified that not only americans died, but just as importantly other nationalities died.
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 2:57 am

The point isnt that the American dead are any "more important" than the other tragic losses, but that Americans were most likely the target of the attack...

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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 3:03 am


It has been a very long night/morning we have been getting victims at the emergency room at many hospitals in Riyadh, the blasts were so massive that some were heared over a 10Km radius.

The last figures are 29 confirmed dead at least what we are hearing here as said on msnbc and cnn (and not 91 as mistaken earlier),the number is feared to increase.

My deepest sympathies to those who lost their lives of many nationalities. Terrorism is just that where ever it happens, and those commeting such act belong to no religion or form of civilization. The think they are martyrs, they are not even close.
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 7:31 am

Just to clear any confusion over the title of my post.

I posted the information just after midday (British time) this afternoon as the first reports were coming in, when obviously the number of casualties was not known for certain.

In hindsight, it was probably insensitive of me to write "10 Americans Dead" as of course deaths of any nationality, race, creed etc. are tragedies. However, this was the headline across CNN.com which was the website being used for my information (and which I subsequently made a link to).

I must therefore apologise for any offence that the title of my post may have caused.

On a personal note, I have family in Bahrain and many friends in Riyadh. I sincerely hope they are all right, and that this terrorist activity does not spread to other parts of the Middle East. My condolences are with everyone's families, and my thoughts with the professionals such as Rwy31R who are having to deal with the aftermath of this needless violence.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 12:19 pm

Lets not forget where all this started from and who started it.

George Bush sent in mercenaries to rape a sovereign Arab nation and continues to illegally occupy Arab territory. As long as American mercenaries continue to occupy Arab territory and molest Muslim sensibilities, the Muslim people have the right to attack American interests wherever they can be found. This is not terrorism, but a freedom struggle.

As long as American troops occupy Iraq all American targets are fair game. I think Jay Garner's illegal "interim authority" should be targetted next.

-Roy
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 12:27 pm

Forget Jay Leno, Indianguy is all the entertainment I need for tonight...
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 12:29 pm

" and molest Muslim sensibilities...This is not terrorism, but a freedom struggle."

Wow, what a coincidence...isn't that what you are cheering on when the Pakistani 'freedom fighters' act in Kashmir? Those guys crossing your border are simply freedom fighters protecting a majority Muslim land from the heathen Indians, right?





 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 12:36 pm

Took the words from my mouth Indianguy.

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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 1:06 pm

I actually agree with you on this one David B.  Smile

I just turned Leno off, a search of the original Airliners.net terrorist-wanna-be's posts is better!

 Laugh out loud


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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 4:39 pm

Lets not forget where all this started from and who started it.

George Bush sent in mercenaries to rape a sovereign Arab nation and continues to illegally occupy Arab territory. As long as American mercenaries continue to occupy Arab territory and molest Muslim sensibilities, the Muslim people have the right to attack American interests wherever they can be found. This is not terrorism, but a freedom struggle.

As long as American troops occupy Iraq all American targets are fair game. I think Jay Garner's illegal "interim authority" should be targetted next.


LMAO! The posts from the most Left Wing Nut and the most Right Wing lunatic in Airliners.Net are very amusing  Big grin
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 7:42 pm


@Eric505, DavidB, NWA742, 9V-SVE: Facts and rational statements to back up your beliefs dont really help in a debate. They only spoil the fun, and when you dont really have any Facts (or rational thoughts) to back you up, they can even work against you! So Why bother with Facts when abuse will work just fine! Shout down your opponent with abuses and profanity! Didnt the Nazi's do that with so much success?

Is that what is taught in American schools these days?

None of these characters dealt with any of the issues I actually spoke about. Ofcourse, none of that ever happened! American mercenaries were never sent into Iraq.Iraq has not been occupied illegally. Jay Garner? He's picnicking in Texas! None of this Iraq business actually happened. All that is "Left wing propaganda" right?

I said it before and I say it again: There can be no peace in this world until America accepts that other cultures have their own definitions of democracy, which can be different from theirs. America has never learned to get along with other cultures, and inherently seeks to control them. This is what pushed the World into a Cold War that brought so much suffering to so many people and only benefitted the big industrial houses that primed the American war machine.

Forcing other cultures to accept your own definitions, with force if necessary, is only going to lead to more violence. Violence has never done anyone, any good. Any good that it appears to do is only temporary, but the damage it causes is permanent and often irreparable. Ofcourse, all this should be beyond the understanding of semi-literate, public school type teenagers who come on forums like these to spew abuse at anyone who disagrees with them! NWA742 and others are living examples of the damage funding cuts can do to the system!

George W Bush and his criminal Christian plutocracy that rules Washington has used violence to subjugate a free people, and now these people are going to fight back. And they have every right to do so. I wouldnt say that car bombs are the best method to win back their freedom and self-respect, but it is one way. Ofcourse it makes the "war on terror" (and I mean the REAL war on terror, that Russia and India are dealing with) even more difficult, since Americans have come in to muddy the water!


Wow, what a coincidence...isn't that what you are cheering on when the Pakistani 'freedom fighters' act in Kashmir? Those guys crossing your border are simply freedom fighters protecting a majority Muslim land from the heathen Indians, right?

@N79969: Looks like the heat has got to you so bad that you are getting really desperate! Comparing Kashmir to the situation in Iraq is like comparing Apples and oranges! India is not on foreign soil, we are pretty much on Indian territory, fighting terrorists sent from across the borders!

But how some of these terrorists coming in from Pakistan to fight India managed to get hold of US made Stinger SAM's is something the US Administration has to answer!

The US has to answer why it is supporting terrorism in some parts of the world, like Kashmir and Chechnya while condemning it when it hurts you! This kind of double standards wont eradicate terror, only serve to increase it.

To sum up, America is now going to learn what we Indians learnt a long time ago: That violence only leads to more violence. Those criminals leading your country sent in mercenaries to subjugate a free people, and they are now fighting back. America will have to pay for the foolish actions of its leaders. That is not in doubt. The only thing to be known now is what the price will be.

-Roy

 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 8:45 pm

The US has to answer why it is supporting terrorism in some parts of the world, like Kashmir and Chechnya while condemning it when it hurts you! This kind of double standards wont eradicate terror, only serve to increase it.



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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 9:06 pm

The point isnt that the American dead are any "more important" than the other tragic losses

Again, another attempt to be "politically correct" rather than admitting the obvious facts.

Of course American dead are "more important" than any other citizenry who may be killed. There are numerous reasons for this, but let me go through a few.

a) The US government reacts the strongest to the death of any of its citizens. If a single American is killed abroad, there are substantial changes to the world demanded in order to compensate. This does not hold true for most other nationalities who tend to pursue foreign policy that interferes less in other states' affairs.

b) US influenced or controlled media are the dominant sources of information on a global scale. Hence reports of US casualties are naturally given pre-eminence.

c) US consumer confidence is more likely to be affected by isolated incidents such as a single US casualty than any other country. This is partly a result of (b) above and partly the result of the countries previous insulation from global realities of terrorism. As the US is the single largest player in a world economy, this has repurcussions again on a global scale.

I could list a few more points, but these are three very key ones that prove my case.

So yes, I'll be blunt and state the obvious thing that no one else wants to admit. The 10 AMERICAN DEATHS ARE MORE IMPORTANT that the Saudis or Indians or Filipinos killed, no matter how many they number. It may not be fair, but as long as the US remains an economic and military superpower such is the reality.
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 9:08 pm

I think that the fact that Roy was allowed to have a post stand where he actively calls for the targeting, attacking and killing of Americans is atrocious on the part of the moderators, first of all. To me, that steps way over the boundaries of what is acceptable on this forum. And yes, I did suggest deletion. I would have suggested deletion had it come from anyone. I again ask-as I have already-that that post be struck. It's clear flamebait and should be removed.

What also is a fact is that Roy is so removed from reality-he has absolutely no concept of what is going on here, that it really blows the mind. The sad part is he actually believes this far-out stuff he writes on here concerning the U.S.

It's one thing to genuinely oppose what happened in Afghanistan, or in Iraq-as I do the latter-it's another to openly support and want to see the killings of Americans-and he said all Americans were legit targets, don't forget.

Just ignore him, people. He's not worth the time. But again, since two seperate requests to have that post deleted have gone unheeded, I'm asking again. It is a clear violation of forum rules.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 9:46 pm

Looks like the "war on terror" has been successful!  Insane
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 9:51 pm

Goodbye, dipping your toes somewhere you haven't been in a while, eh?  Smile
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 9:56 pm

As long as American troops occupy Iraq all American targets are fair game.



Great...And the 9-11 attacks were also "fair game", I guess...you just need to explain us exactly why...




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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Wed May 14, 2003 10:07 pm

Roy,

No desperation here. I am just challenging your utterly delusional view of the world and your creative moral accounting when innocent Americans are murdered in their sleep.

Remember that in some minds, Kashmir is clearly not Indian territory but occupied Muslim land. Including in the minds of your beloved 'freedom fighters' who 'martyred' themselves in Riyadh.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 2:25 am

Sic 'em, Alpha 1!

lol I couldn't resist.

I do agree with you (not Roy) but it is kind of funny, to me at least.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 2:55 am

As long as American mercenaries continue to occupy Arab territory and molest Muslim sensibilities, the Muslim people have the right to attack American interests wherever they can be found.

Using your black and white, moral-free anaysis, then, the Americans have a right to attack back....and, using your justification of this pussy method of attack (carbombing civillians), we should use any means possible...so.......

Glass over Mecca. Nuke Medina. Let no grain of Saudi sand remain free of radiation. Stoke regional hatreds the world over, with only Muslims as targets. Unleash NATO on Chechnya. Leave no village standing there. Let Israel handle Egypt and Syria. Team up the Serbs and the Greeks on the Turks. Ship Patriot Missiles to India, making Pakistan's flimsy nuclear delivery systems useless. Let India turn it's neighbor into ashes.

Do it all now, while the West maintains massive technological and creative superiority....& most of the Muslim world remains firmly entrenched in the 11th Century.

There are a billion Muslims roaming the Earth. Perhaps when that number has been reduced to something closer the population of Iraq, we'll feel compelled to stop.

Once you start justifying committing violent murder, Roy, you've abandoned any will to stop it. And once it's started, no shred of human decency applies.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 5:26 am

"Is that what is taught in American schools these days? "


As opposed to what your schools fill your mind with?


"George Bush sent in mercenaries to rape a sovereign Arab nation and continues to illegally occupy Arab territory. As long as American mercenaries continue to occupy Arab territory and molest Muslim sensibilities, the Muslim people have the right to attack American interests wherever they can be found. This is not terrorism, but a freedom struggle."

a horrifying, twisted sense of moral equivelence. disgusting.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 8:51 am


What also is a fact is that Roy is so removed from reality-he has absolutely no concept of what is going on here, that it really blows the mind. The sad part is he actually believes this far-out stuff he writes on here concerning the U.S.


Once again, Alpha1 and company have demonstrated their ability to turn on particular members without addressing the issue being discussed. The moderators would like to note that Alpha1 and the other resident Fascists havent discussed the topic at all, but merely continued with their "Roy this" and "Roy that" brand of nonsense.


a horrifying, twisted sense of moral equivelence. disgusting.

So what is the "real" truth? What you see on FOX? Tell me, are American mercenaries in Iraq or not? Why is Jay Garner in Baghdad?

Was this about "removing Saddam"? Well, he is gone now isnt he? WHya re US mercenaries still there? If this really was "IRaqi Freedom", then why doesnt America give the Iraqi people their freedom?

-Roy

 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 8:57 am

Iraqi's are still the bigger victims here.

The Iraqi casualties caused by the crusade launched by GWB was almost 3599! thats right, almost 3600 Iraqi casualties!

If OBL is helping to even the score, whats wrong with that? The message should go out loud and clear: That no attack on any soveriegn nation will go unchallenged.

What Alpha1 and company are saying is: Its ok for America to go about butchering innocent Iraqi civilians, but they have no right to respond? Is that what you are saying Alpha1?


Just ignore him, people. He's not worth the time. But again, since two seperate requests to have that post deleted have gone unheeded, I'm asking again. It is a clear violation of forum rules.

It is incredibly childish of you to go around saying that you are "ignoring" people, when it is clear as hell that you are obsessed with Roy-bashing. Just come out and say so will you?

Read me the forum rules, Alpha1. Let me know which ones I have violated!

-Roy
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 9:39 am

Again, another attempt to be "politically correct" rather than admitting the obvious facts.

Of course American dead are "more important" than any other citizenry who may be killed. There are numerous reasons for this, but let me go through a few.

a) The US government reacts the strongest to the death of any of its citizens. If a single American is killed abroad, there are substantial changes to the world demanded in order to compensate. This does not hold true for most other nationalities who tend to pursue foreign policy that interferes less in other states' affairs.

b) US influenced or controlled media are the dominant sources of information on a global scale. Hence reports of US casualties are naturally given pre-eminence.

c) US consumer confidence is more likely to be affected by isolated incidents such as a single US casualty than any other country. This is partly a result of (b) above and partly the result of the countries previous insulation from global realities of terrorism. As the US is the single largest player in a world economy, this has repurcussions again on a global scale.

I could list a few more points, but these are three very key ones that prove my case.

So yes, I'll be blunt and state the obvious thing that no one else wants to admit. The 10 AMERICAN DEATHS ARE MORE IMPORTANT that the Saudis or Indians or Filipinos killed, no matter how many they number. It may not be fair, but as long as the US remains an economic and military superpower such is the reality.


What bone fide bullshit.
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 9:46 am

Roy,

Why aren't you weeping for the innocent civilians of Kashmir that have been brutalized and killed by the Indian Army over the past 50 years?
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 9:46 am

If OBL is helping to even the score, whats wrong with that? The message should go out loud and clear: That no attack on any soveriegn nation will go unchallenged.

What Alpha1 and company are saying is: Its ok for America to go about butchering innocent Iraqi civilians, but they have no right to respond? Is that what you are saying Alpha1?


Here's the difference ROY:

Iraqi civilian casualties are accidents, while OBL and his thugs commit meditated murder. Understand that?
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 10:05 am

I missed you too Alpha 1!!

 Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 10:34 am

If you've read any of my postings in the past three months, Mister Roy (and I have to assume you did), you will notice a stubborn theme, much to the consternation of some of my fellow Americans here, that pronounces the righteousness of my country's cause noticably hollow when the role of aggressor and the death of children have been accepted as legitimate.

I will not apply a double standard to you.

Your opinions and justice are empty when you justify the murder of 'legitimate' targets like sleeping children and mothers.

Don't chide Bush, Rummy or Sharon. Don't disparage them. Because with that opinion you are them.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 11:29 am

I missed you too Alpha 1!!

ROTFL. Hope you've been doing well, Goodbye. Thanks for making me laugh there.  Smile

As for you Roy, I get such a kick when you call me a "fascist". It just makes me laugh so hard. I compare that, once again, to a real conservative, B757300 calling me a "liberal", and I know once again I'm not either. But it shows what you are, and that's all the counts.

To be blunt, Roy: if any nation, or group EVER says that it's perfectly legit to target Americans, they'll get what Al Qaeda has been getting for around 18 months-no mercy, no quarter, no rest. You want to piss off 280 million people so that they respond with a terrible resolve, as Yamamoto so succinctly put it in 1941, then just keep saying it's OK to attack and kill Americans.

And, oh, David B, I think B747-437B was being very sarcastic in what he said.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 12:23 pm

Heavymetal,

Totally uncalled for! How raciest can you get? By the way you were trying to reply to Indianguy! Nothing connected to ARABS! He has an opinion, you go attack him their. I can’t believe what you wrote! People like you are reasons why we have UBL and other thugs that run around trying to change the world!!!!!

I don’t think either of you have an ounce of Humanity!
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 12:25 pm

People like you are reasons why we have UBL and other thugs that run around trying to change the world!!!!!

CHANGE the world? Don't kid yourself. Destroy the world is more like it.
 
SV747-468
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Thu May 15, 2003 12:30 pm

Alpha 1,
Your right I agree with you 100%! Destroy is a better word, and thanks alot for correcting me!
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Fri May 16, 2003 7:59 am

I now have God, Guts N Guns Americans and Saudi Arabs made at me.

I must be doing something right.

SV, if you will look at my first post, you will I detailed a horrific vision of Muslim holocaust, a war of attrition agaist all things Arab and Islamic. I do not wish it to come about. Let me say it again...I do not wish it to happen.

But Indianguy seems to justify a war of attrition against all things American and Western. I'm thankful you included him on the "no shred of humanity" list along with me. Fortunately I don't mean it. He does.
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Fri May 16, 2003 11:35 am

Heavymetal,
Buddy I don't mean to offend you, but people who think UBL is serving anybody or it's right to go around and kill people for an Unkown cause is got to be a person without a mind! Now I'm a Saudi-American and I love both lands and if Indianguy thinks it's right he should go over to Riyadh and check out the babies that got burned to death in their sleep and let's see if that was a human thing to do! I don't care if those babies were American, Arab, Muslim, Jewish, or any race, it's just NOT RIGHT! Those babies didn't do anything to deserve to die in that matter, and to think of the parents, OMG, I'm speechless.

UBL is a thug and he is the murderer and he is the DEVIL! Not America, and if America responded, it was the right of America to go after this shithead! And Saudi Arabia now is got a Terrorism problem like America. Now we got another country looking for him and believe me the gov't in Saudi is really pissed off and they well not tolerate it anymore! Any sympathizers with him deserve the same fate. As the Saudi gov't said "these guys will WISH to be tried in America and to avoid Saudi Law"

I don't know why the people who run this web site leave mr.indianguy writing things like that! complete BS......

Alpha 1, Heavymetal, and N79969 You guys are cool !!!!
 
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RE: Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead

Fri May 16, 2003 6:49 pm

Alpha 1, I suppose with ADG gone, you still have Goodbye to argue with  Big grin

Anyway, I heard some British folk died also. Condolences to those who knew people that were murdered in this horrific act of terrorism.
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