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How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 4:11 am

How is the town you're living in?

When I ask "how old" I mean the first "namely mention" in history, i.e. from what date is the first historical document that mentions the city with a name similar to its current name.

My city, Frankfurt am Main, has become 1209 years old this year. It's first mentioned with the name "Franconovurd" in a deed of gift by Karl the Great in 794.
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 4:35 am

As far as I know....the town I was born in was first mentioned in 1880.

I was born in Chapleau, Ontario, Canada this is an old railway town C.P. Railway - it is located 100 miles NE (as the crow flies) of Sault Ste Marie. By road the distance from Sault Ste Marie is 190 miles. Currently there are less than 3,000 people and this beautiful place is surrounded by lakes & forests.....it is the ideal place for fisherman & hunters.

There is a fantastic web site that you can visit:

http://www.chapleau.com

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 4:50 am

First definite mention of Brussels as a city is in 977AD, when Otto II gave a chunk of land to Carl of France. Back then it was called "The Island Of St Gorik", after a preacher who founded a chapel there about 400 years previously.
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 5:38 am

My town was settled in the 1600s by Dutch settlers.
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Sun Jul 13, 2003 5:39 am

same age as the doomsday book  Smile
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 6:12 am

My hometown turned 1000 years old in '97, so it would be 1006 this year.
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 6:35 am

Rochester, New York is about 250 years old er so...... I think.

Any other Rochestarians out there can give a better figure?
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 6:58 am

My hometown was Est. in 1711
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 7:09 am

Don't know about Binz just so...
But Zurich was Turricum for the Romans and for the Kelts (?, "Kelten") already befor Christ. First mentioned as Zurich in 929 though.

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:01 am

First mention of where I now live was in the 7th century when a monk from Iona settled there and preached the good book to the pagan Picts
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:11 am

Antoine de la Mothe Cadillac, a French Explorer, landed in Detroit and established a fort in 1701. This makes Detroit 302 years old.
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:21 am

Newcastle Upon Tyne: 43AD, beyond the Romans and Anglo' lot. We had some bother with the Vikings too  Smile

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:29 am

Sydney was founded in 1843.

My town of Kirribilli (Abogininal meaning "Good Fishing Hole") was founded in 1854 when Adolphus Frederic Feez purchased for 200 pounds an area of approximately half a hectare at Kirribilli Point. Now practically half of Kirribilli is taken up by the Sydney residences of The Prime Minister and the Governor General.

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:41 am

London is the oldest permanently inhabited city in the world. In fact, to give some weight to the topic, I moved TODAY ladies and gents to central (Belsize Park) London from the suburbs (Epsom) where I've been most of my life, and to live near a tube and not be surrounded by dickheads is a huge result. London's the best city in the world, the size and density of the place is just mindblowing. It never ceases to amaze me, and even if it's the grubbiest and worst-run city in Europe, it's still the most vibrant and fantastic place. It's New York (London's only rival) but with more depth, history style and class.

Byblos Lebanon (where the Bible is named after) also makes the claim of "oldest permanently inhabited" but there's about 50,000 people there and London's got 18 million so we'd probably beat them in a fight. Although Byblos, which I've visited, is pretty awesome, you can see Biblical, Roman and Ottoman ruins without turning your head, while standing on a Crusader castle. Better than Disneyland!
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:52 am

Montreal, founded in 1642 by Paul de Chomedey de Maisonneuve, was already a gathering place for native peoples. It was then called Hochelaga. The first european name of Hochelaga was Ville-Marie (City of Mary) and later changed its name for Montreal.

For my part, I've been living all my life in Montreal, mainly in the eastern part of the city. At the moment, I live about a mile north of the Olympic Stadium.
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 9:26 am

My current hometown (Dortmund), nowadays a city of about 600.000 inhabitants, was founded by two monks coming from England in about 700. They opened a monastery to convert the heathen Saxons to Christianity. Both were killed a few years later by irate villagers from nearby settlements. Maybe they pursued their work a bit too fanatical. Big grin

The first official mentioning of the city name (at that time spelled "Trothmani") in a document cites the date of 899.

My hometown in the sense of "town where I was born and grew up" is a small village of about 20.000 people. It was mentioned in official documents for the first time about 1000 A.D. .




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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 9:29 am

My little town was first mentioned in 1158 and became a city in 1252. But the most important thing was first mentioned in 1351 - our beer!
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 1:56 pm

Guess I'm the only one here who'se older than the city he lives in?
Almere, est. 1976 Big grin

Indeed 1976. They started building a few years earlier but 1976 was the year the first citizens officially came to live here. 25th aniversary was reason for big celebrations in 2001, with the city giving everyone an unwanted present by introducing parking fees for the first time  Laugh out loud

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 2:21 pm

When the English and Indians settled our town in the 1700s, the Seneca Indians named it 'Rochester'....which the roughly translated means "crappy city"

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 2:27 pm

My town is kind of hard to describe. Its in Dallas city limits, all our mail is addressed to Dallas, but we have our own mayor, city council, cops, etc. It was founded in 1924, shortly after the formation of Southern Millionaires...errr...Methodist University.
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 3:11 pm

Cleveland was founded in 1796. My hometown of Maple Heights, was founded in 1928.
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 5:02 pm

QF Forever - check your history mate.

*how embarrassing*

Doesn't 1788 spring to your mind, not to mention a decade earlier at Botany Bay??

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Sun Jul 13, 2003 5:57 pm

My turn, I guess. The current San Germán, Puerto Rico was founded in 1573. The original village was founded in 1511, but was raided by the French in 1528. Eventually, the residents came together on the Santa Marta hills in the southwestern part of the island in 1570. After several attemps, the town was officially founded three years later. The town was named after Germain de Foix, King Ferdinand of Spain's second wife. So my town is 430 years old. Or 492. I guess it depends on how you look at it...

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 3:12 am

The place where I live, Setubal, Portugal, According to Greek records referring to Phoenicians, started to be known as the place where a colony the Bastulum-Phoenicians lived. Therefore we are talking about 800 BC, also because Carthaginian and later Romans referred to the place as an old village. Ruins from the Roman period and one ruin claimed to be Carthaginian still exist.

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:43 am


A fort built by the Romans in 79AD by the River Irwell was the start of Manchester.

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:41 am

Mountain View, California (my home town) just celebrated its 100th anniversary of incorporation, though the town itself predates that quite a bit because it was a well-known stop on the San Francisco-San Jose stagecoach route.
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:17 am

Churchville, Pennsylvania was established in the late 1700s so it's been about 225 years.

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:43 am

The City of Charlottesville, Virginia was founded in 1762. However the county it is in, Albemarle was originally founded by the General Assembly of Virginia in 1744. However there probably were settlers and explorers this far out in the piedmont earlier, it does seem about right that it took about 150 years from the founding of Jamestown before there was enough settlement to require setting up counties and towns in the piedmont.
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:43 am

New Orleans,Louisiana was founded in 1718, making it 275 years old.

New Orleans has more National Historical sights than any other U.S city.


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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 2:59 pm

Winchester can trace its roots back to at least roman times when it was called Venta Belgarum - so approx 2000 years
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 3:44 pm

Fort Vancouver was built by the British Hudsons Bay Compay in (I think) the 1840s and was handed over to the Americans in the mid 1850s. We are fairly young out here.....

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 5:34 pm

Vienna/Austria was founded as a roman fortress named Vindobona in the year 70.
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:05 pm

Berlin/Germany (yes, the capital, that is...):

The city is pretty "young" as compared to other cities in Germany:

It developed from two trader villages on either side of the river Spree: First mentionings: 1237 (Cölln) and 1244 (Berlin). Both cities formed a union in 1307. In 1709 Prussian King Friedrich I. (1688-1713) united both cities together with 3 new suburbs and called it Residenzstadt Berlin, boasting 57.000 inhabitants.
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:49 pm

The official foundation of Tel Aviv dates from the ceremony of the lottery of plots of land, which took place on the second day of Passover 1909.


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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:58 pm

My city (Valencia) was founded by the Romans around 75 BC naming it Valentia.
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:44 am

Houston, Texas founded by the allen brothers and really came about in 1836 and incorp. 1837. Was founded near San Jacinto where Texas won independence from Mexico, Was capital of the Republic of Texas for 2 1/2 years. The Allen Brothers sold it as a seaport on the Buffalo Bayou, even though it is 35 miles inland. After the Houston ship channel came along the port grew even bigger, and is now the Largest foreign port and second largest port in the US, andd 7th largest in the world (based on Tonnage handled). So I guess they were right over 100 years later  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Tue Jul 15, 2003 4:45 am

Zanesville, Ohio....206 years old this year.

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Tue Jul 15, 2003 4:58 am

Liverpool was a fishing village of which I don't know its exact origin. It was granted township status by King John in 1207 which makes it 796 years old!
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:38 am

My town is not as old as those in Europe, Middle East or China, but it is the first largest city founden in the Americas:

Mexico-Tenochtitlán was founded in 1325, in the middle of a, currently gone, lake.

Monterrey, my other home town was founded by Spaniards in 1597.

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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:26 am

I live in Orléans, France.

The city was founded by the Carnutes (a gallic tribe) in 70-60 BC and was quickly setteled by the romans. Its roman name was Cenabum.

On February 13th, 52 BC, the Carnutes revolted against Caesar's rule and massacred the romans. Caesar's retaliation was terrible: he destroyed the city.

Cenabum was re-built and later named "Aurelianis" (dedicated to emperor Aurelien).
When the western Roman Empire collapsed in 477, Orléans quickly became on of the most important cities of the "Kingdom of the Franks".
During the 9th century, Charlemagne, ordered the construction of the cathedral (Cathedral Sainte Croix), where his grandson, king Charles the bald (son of Louis the first) was crowned in 848.

During the Hundred years war, Orléans was occupied by the british in 1428 and then liberated by Joan of Arc on may 7th, 1429.
After the war, the city became an important economic and political center, and its population reached 30,000 under Louis XI's reign.

In 1870, important battles took place inside and around the city.
On October 10th, an army of 15,000 prussians backed by a powerful artillery and led by general Von der Tann, surrounded the city.
After heavy street fights and heavy casualties (most of the french defenders were killed), the city fell to the prussians on october 12th.

On november 5th, Von der Tann was forced to retreat and the city was liberated from the prussians by the "Army of the Loire" led by general d'Aurelle de Paladines.

In december, after a failed attempt to push the prussians further north, the french forces were forced to retreat and finally defeated on december 5th.

During WWII, Orléans was heavily bombed by the Luftwaffe in june 1940. The French army, in full retreat, was totally unable to defend the city and headed south, like most of the city’s inhabitants.


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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:58 am

Tijuana my home town just turned 114 years this past July 11th.
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Tue Jul 15, 2003 10:44 am

Yorktown, NY which was esablished in 1735
 
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:47 am

São Paulo/SP, Brazil is 449 years old
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RE: How Old Is Your Hometown?

Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:20 am

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