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Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:13 pm

"Students for War is working to build support across America for military action..."

Now here's an interesting student group  Smile
http://www.studentsforwar.org/




















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flyf15
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Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:22 pm

If you're all so much for war, join the military and stop being all talk.
 
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Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:43 pm

Judging by the lack of contact information and the WHOIS info, it doesn't look very legitamate. Although, someone has way too much free time.
 
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Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:49 pm

Hmmm.....the education system sucks-I'm not being let into school because I live a bit farther, even though I went there last year from the same location. Why would I do this, I'd rather start a war AGAINST the war (protest)...
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manni
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Sat Jul 19, 2003 6:24 pm

OMG! Some peole seriously need some help and get their life back! How can anyone be FOR war?
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DoorsToManual
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Sat Jul 19, 2003 7:27 pm

what goes round, comes round....
 
Qb001
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Sat Jul 19, 2003 9:09 pm

Another den of disillusioned, post-modern intellectuals, bathing in a zest of Nietzschean philosophy.

Either that, or these guys are just damned nuts  Nuts
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Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:59 pm

Another den of disillusioned, post-modern intellectuals, bathing in a zest of Nietzschean philosophy.

Ya, whatever.  Insane

Anyway, given that there are so many anti-establishment, left wing student organizations, it's a little refreshing to see one on the side of law & order.
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:16 am

Yyz717, if you think it's REFRESHING to see a group who WANTS WAR, then I think you've gone way aroud the bend. ROTFL.  Laugh out loud

It seems this group is made up mostly of young Republicans. Maybe that tells you how frightening this now neocon way of thinking is for the U.S. and the world. Left to these zealots, you'll get the Armageddon. But then again, maybe that's what they want.
 
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:16 am

"Anyway, given that there are so many anti-establishment, left wing student organizations, it's a little refreshing to see one on the side of law & order."

 Laugh out loud Good one!!  Laugh out loud

... oops, you weren't joking, were you? Embarrassment
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:21 am

Yyz717,

You're crying fool in a post going over the fact that France will use the word courriel rather than e-mail in the future. Here, where in the first post a drawing is posted wich clearly reads 'I want you to boycot France' you write 'it's a little refreshing to see one on the side of law & order'. If you didn't show your true colors before you certainly have showed them today.
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:37 am

What did France do wrong? Disagreed with the war on Iraq, and this group are urging people to boycott that Country? Sheesh, have they just been released from an insane asylum or something?
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:38 am

haha, that's awesome.

reminds me of bumper sticker

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Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:41 am

I look at that site, and one word leaps to my mind: Nazism.
 
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:51 am

Good god. You must be KIDDING ME.

Those types of people give America a bad name. FOR WAR?! LOL!!! I don't know what to say, I'm so miffed.  Wow!  Wow!
 
Sabena 690
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:15 am

And exactly those "people" are the cause of a lot of anti-american feelings in the world.

But I guess we have to learn to live with all kind of people, even with extreme right nazists as the one above...

Sickening...

BTW: delete this topic for my part. Supporting heavily agressive behaviour is maybe permitted on any pro bush forum between all the blind ignorant supporters, but not on this forum were also mature people participate.
 
bobrayner
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:19 am

Sabena 690, there's no need to be facetious.

Nobody's deleting your posts because they're anti-bush per se.
If I had to guess, I'd say that they're deleted because of their inflammatory tone  Big grin
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:36 am

Bob: a few months ago, I saw a topic being deleted because it was pro fighting, pro agressive behaviour.

Here, the guy who started this thread, asks litteraly to be pro war, pro fighting.

Do you call this an acceptable, non agressive behaviour?
 
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:02 am

Come to think of it, that's why this world is such a bad place to live in: we don't have enough wars. It's time we have more law and order around here. I wish we had more wars.

There is absolutely nothing like a good, refreshing and energizing war. The smell of blood, the vision of decapitated bodies, babies losing their parents, women being raped, torture, massacre, genocide, ruins, diseases, famine. Don't you all realize what we are missing???

Really, I'm with Yyz717 on that one.

We want war, we want war, we want war...
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:42 am

Do you people realize that the Statue of Liberty is FRENCH?!?! It's true.

Flyf15, you got it right! Join the military or shut the F*#K UP! All this crap is getting annoying.  Pissed

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Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:57 am

I can see YYZ717's point but the site does go more than a tad too far.


A desperate leader with nuclear weapons is a great danger to the entire world. Please take action to prevent a dark future created by a desperate madman.

Sincerely,
Are they being sarci?

Probably not,having flicked down to the bottom of the page.Is every single Republican group linked?
 
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:59 am

what goes round, comes round....




You got that right.
 
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:29 pm

Hmmm... The left expects the country to just take their bull with stride, yet look at all the lefties around here having near-aneurysms in response to a pro-right wing group. Very interesting, or should I just say typical? Enough said on that, eh?

The left have shown themselves for who they are, and America has said "no thanks".

My favorite bumper sticker was a "War is not the Answer" with the "not" cut out. If we're expected to swallow their nonsense, they'd better wise up and start being "tolerant" of ours. See how good I'm doing? I'm even integrating liberal buzzwords into my everyday conversation.


Now let me sign off to go pay my car registration before it triples in a few months, courtesy of everyone's favorite Democratic Governor, Gray Davis. Nothing like sticking it to the citizens to cover your self-created state deficit.
Perhaps I'll send him a thank you note also...to say thanks for cutting the summer school offerings at public universities to compensate for his budget crisis. Education? Who needs that? Certainly not you if you live in Democratic America. Heck, we have federally funded aid programs for everyone and his mother thanks to the Dems. So who needs a job when other people's hard earned tax dollars can filter through something cleverly guised as an "aid program" and into your checking account? It's easy to see why millions of Americans love the Dems... voting for a Republican would be like cutting your own purse strings. Sickening philosophy, really.
What I really want to know, and maybe one of you can enlighten me, is why I'm not entitled to any federal aid program. The great grandson of Irish immigrants who fled the Emerald Isle during the potato famine, I think I am just as much of a discriminated minority as the next Black, Asian or Mexican guy. Oh yeah, that's right. Those great grandparents of mine who left their homeland with hungry stomachs came to this country and started working day in day out to earn their own keep. My grandfather went to the Waldorf hotel in NYC to apply for the concierge position. That was until he was informed that Irish need not apply. Now instead of crying to the Jesse Jackson of the day, he took it with a grain of salt and got himself some other job. He started a coach company and he and my great-grandmother became multimillionaires. Discrimination? Yes. Now that's what I call discrimination, but you won't find my trying to milk the system for something that happened to my family 100+ years ago. That is a lesson liberals need to take, even if it's a hard one to swallow.



While picking up a USMC buddy from Camp Pendleton last week (he just returned home from Iraq), I was talking to the commanding officer of the entire company. He was recounting first-hand the stories from Iraq. Now if any of you bleeding heart liberals had the opportunity to speak with this gentleman, I don't think you'd have anything coherent to argue with him on regarding our military action in Iraq. This man recounted to me and other family/friends the horrors of Saddam's regime. From torture chambers equipped with car batteries and acid to the Mujahadeen (Saddam's loyalists) "eye-thumping" unloyal Iraqi men, women, CHILDREN and elderly, this guy painted a grim picture. Saddam was the epitome of evil people, and I have the utmost disgust for anybody who dares call a war to remove such a criminal "unjust" How can you call something unjust when you know only as much as the media spoon feeds you? You, not the war, are what's wrong. YOU need a dose of reality, as seen by our brave men and women in Iraq.
But don't expect to hear any real first hand accounts like this on television. That would upset the liberal media's bandwagon campaign against all things conservative.
Better they keep you all ignorant and paint this war to be the unjust war you want to believe it is. It's okay if you decide to remain ignorant, but please DO NOT attack this war as if you know anything about it. Until you meet someone who's come back from the conflict and can hear about it first hand as I did, you have no business condemning our action to give an oppressed people hope, life and liberty. And if you still insist on condemning it, I have a new word for you: communist. Get acquainted with it, for that???s what you espouse if you were for leaving such an oppressive dictator in office.

That is all.

tsully



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Sabena 690
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:52 pm

My favorite bumper sticker was a "War is not the Answer" with the "not" cut out. If we're expected to swallow their nonsense, they'd better wise up and start being "tolerant" of ours

I hope america has good psychiatrists...
 
Qb001
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:55 pm

Tsully, you're da man!

As I said on reply #18, we do need more wars.

You're young and, as such, I suggest you enroll and be the first on the line of fire. Believe me, your country will be proud of you. So will be your soul when you see your casket with an American flag over it. That will be so moving.

Even I may drop a tear...
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Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:20 pm

While picking up a USMC buddy from Camp Pendleton last week (he just returned home from Iraq), I was talking to the commanding officer of the entire company. He was recounting first-hand the stories from Iraq. Now if any of you bleeding heart liberals had the opportunity to speak with this gentleman, I don't think you'd have anything coherent to argue with him on regarding our military action in Iraq.

Your USMC buddy is lucky that he's back from Iraq in less than 4 months. I know several of my USMC buddies who were in Vietnam for YEARS before being allowed to come home. My bet is that if your buddy had to spend a year or two over there before being able to come back to the states, he'd most likely think that, yes, Saddam was a bad guy, but the Iraqi's are still shooting at us good guys and was it really worth all this crap to get him out of power. Don't mean to disparage our soldiers, but there was a time not all that long ago where going to war was more of an "extended stay" as opposed to "temporary duty". The phrase "war is hell" wasn't coined by some "lefty"...it was coined by the men who spent a little more than 3 months in the war zone.
 
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:35 am

So is there a time limit on how long you have to be there before you can comment on the war zone? Or are the only people that have any credibility to make comments are the ones who just sit here all day and make anti-war statements the only ones allowed too?
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:37 am

GAlaxy - with all due respect, you have it a lot easier than your forefathers who fought in Vietnam. They could only have hoped for 3 month stints to keep their morale up. I'd venture a guess that if you were over in Iraq last Easter and NEXT Easter and the Christmas after that, you might begin to wonder if freeing the Iraqi people was really worth it all. Coming back after 3 months lets you tell folks how horrible Saddam was. IF you had to stay there for a much longer period of time, I believe that your "Saddam deserved it" feelings might change a bit to "What the f*** am I doing here anyways"...morale would tank. I realize you guys are doing your job - but I think the battles you were sent into were wrong.
 
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:44 am

Your USMC buddy is lucky that he's back from Iraq in less than 4 months. I know several of my USMC buddies who were in Vietnam for YEARS before being allowed to come home. My bet is that if your buddy had to spend a year or two over there before being able to come back to the states, he'd most likely think that, yes, Saddam was a bad guy, but the Iraqi's are still shooting at us good guys and was it really worth all this crap to get him out of power.



Goingboeing, you're right...if he was over there for one day longer, he'd probably turn into a liberal like you and wish the war had never started. Which is exactly why he bloody VOLUNTEERED to go back next month! Out of all the guys in his company, 2 out of 3 have VOLUNTEERED to go back. Is that what you liberals call "wondering if it was really worth all this crap to get him [Saddam] out of power". No, actually they just have an evidently unexplainable love of country and burning desire to keep it safe for their loved one's and even their fellow citizens who condemn their action.
Please don't do anymore betting, as you can count on being wrong.


And FYI, I will be joining the USAF as soon as I finish my 4 yrs at university. Every male in my family from the time my great grandfather came to this country from Ireland has flown in the USAF. If there was a need for more servicemen NOW, I'd be the first one to enlist, believe me. The fact you people fail to realize when criticizing me for not enlisting now is that this is a purely volunteer-based military we have at the moment. That means everyone currently in the armed services has voluntarily enlisted...to the point that we have the first all volunteer military in something like 50 years. So rest assured, I'm not all words and no action. I WILL be in the Air Force in 2 years, fighting for my country and even serving to protect people like you, whom I vehemently disagree with. Like it or not, you are still my fellow citizens and as such, I will serve to protect you and your families.



-tsully

I love America. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle, but I'd rather be a dog in New York City than a prince in Riyadh.
 
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:09 am

Good for you. You might want to read this article provided by LSM in another thread http://www.counterpunch.com/goff07032003.html . The whole point is that in 3 months you still got some people with that "gung ho" spirit out there. Make that 12 months and sometimes that spirit can break.

Sorry, I'm not a liberal...a conservative actually, but anyone who disagrees with this war is automatically a "bleeding heart lefty", so I've gotten used to being mislabeled.

Don't worry about the all volunteer military...I believe that within 2 years you'll see selective service start up again. Then everybody will get their chance, whether they want to or not.

And I really don't see how my country is any safer now that we have freed the Iraqi people...if anything, we've LOST more freedoms because of this war. And they thank us by shooting at our servicemen. Make sure you pack your Kevlar suit before you go.
 
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:43 am

Maybe that tells you how frightening this now neocon way of thinking is for the U.S. and the world. Left to these zealots, you'll get the Armageddon. But then again, maybe that's what they want.

OMG! What unnecessary hyperbole! Anyone who dares to pronounce differing political views from Alpha can only be a zealot!  Insane

... oops, you weren't joking, were you?

I was being mildly sarcastic. I looked at the website and laughed. These students are no more dangerous than your typical left-wing pot-smoking campus groupies (which are far more numerous). Let's put this in its true (small) perspective (yes Alpha....even you should do this).




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Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:20 am

yes Alpha....even you should do this

Why do you add little barbs to your comments like this?
Maybe you think it helps the debate?

Play nicely.
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Alpha 1
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:10 pm

OMG! What unnecessary hyperbole! Anyone who dares to pronounce differing political views from Alpha can only be a zealot.

I don't consider, on this board, KROC, or JetService, or L-188, and a few others, as zealot, even though they are staunchly conservative. I do not consider conservatives like George Voinovich, John McCain, Bob Dole, George H.W. Bush (#41), Ronald Reagan, Jeb Bush, Orrin Hatch, Colin Powell, and a few others as zealots, even though they are basically conservative.

What I consider as "zealot", are people like John Ashcroft; Don Rumsfeld, George W. Bush, Paul Wolfwitz, Richard Perl, Carl Rove, Pat Robertson, Pat Buchanan, Jerry Falwell, Rick Santorum-those kind that are ideologically driven to extremes. Get the difference. And that group includes a few on here as well.
 
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:29 pm

Actually Alpha 1, I agree with your delineation of conservatives into zealous and non-zealous camps.

Regarding KROC....I consider him quite liberal actually (no offense KROC).

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Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:33 pm

Where am I Alpha1?...just curious.

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Qb001
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:23 pm

Qb001, I don't find your comments amusing at all. But they do portray your low level of intelligence quite sufficiently

Well... I read your replies and, really, you do not want to know what I think about your level of intelligence.

I have nothing against people who enlist (enroll, sign-up, whatever) in the Armed Forces, quite the contrary. My own brother is in the Armed Forces. In fact, just so you know, I came that close to enlist myself. I was accepted, and everything, but life changed my plan a bit. So good luck with your career.

That being said, enlisting does not mean you have to entirely give up on your judgment. War is bad. War causes pain and suffering. War creates orphans. War is evil. How can someone, in his/her right mind, advocate for war, as if it was just a Nintendo game?

I'm not a pacifist, that is I recognize that, unfortunately, war is sometime a necessary evil. But before going into war, we must do everything we can to avoid it.

By no mean am I a religious person, but I have to admit that the best reflection on war has been written by Saint Thomas Aquinas, in Summa Theologicae. You should read it; it might knock some sense into your brain. And you might even realize why the US led war in Iraq is totally illegitimate.
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:40 pm

How can you call something unjust when you know only as much as the media spoon feeds you? You, not the war, are what's wrong. YOU need a dose of reality, as seen by our brave men and women in Iraq.

So,the US will not be eliminating such regimes in:
Liberia,Zimbabwe,Burundi etc?
If the US started the war for altruistic reasons,then I'm a chinaman.I agreed with the war but it had nothing to do with the US attempting to free the Iraqi people from a dictator that the US had supported many moons ago.
 
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Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:18 pm

Donder10,

Read the book; just read the book, ok?

Summa Theologicae, by Saint Thomas Aquinas.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.

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