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Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:05 pm

Sorry... but I don't like it.  Sad





 
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:09 pm

I like it. Very nice. Now, if they would improve the reliability of the model, I'll go out and buy one.
 
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:12 pm

Oh darn, the next German car manufacturer screwing up the new generation of the good models!
Why do they do that?

It's not that bad, but look at the headlights!

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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:13 pm

it's not a bad car, I must say, It's small though, atleast for a big fellow like me...
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:21 pm

It doesn't look too different from the mkIV Golf, the design is pretty evolutionary... drawing on some design cues (namely the headlamps) from the Touareg.

However most rumors are saying the the 5dr Golf will not be coming to North America... we will probably only see GTI and R32 versions of the car. What we need to wait for is the official release of the Jetta V photos.

Overall I think it looks pretty good. Though there isn't much stlye wise to distinguish it from the Peugeot 306 and the newly released Opel Astra... which all have that tallish hatch look.
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:25 pm

Is the Jetta still around? I always thought it had been replaced by the Bora!
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:27 pm

The Bora is known as the Jetta in the United States. The Jetta/Bora 5 will be based on this new Golf platform.
 
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:31 pm

I just checked VWVortex and they will post official pics and press releases at 4pm CDT today, 22 July. Obviously we will need to wait a bit until VWNA releases official info regarding what we get in terms of engines and trim packages and numbers of doors.



Oddly enough, or not so odd depending on how you see it, the Jetta/Vento/Bora never did well in Europe, but sells REALLY well in NA. Americans liking for hatchbacks must have been destroyed by millions of Ford Escorts, Dodge Omnis, and Chevy Citations. Plus many still preceive the hatchback as an economy car... yet we buy SUVs which in more ways than one are nothing but swollen hatches, or just really tall station wagons with too much plastic body cladding.
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:48 pm

Doesn't look too bad, however I just see too many Golfs to really love them.


The engine range is extensive; all units, whether petrol or diesel, are now direct injection, though not all variants will make it to the UK. Four engines will be available at launch, with more to come later, as indicated:

Petrol
1.4 FSI 75bhp - launch
1.6 FSI 115bhp - launch
1.6 FSI 85bhp - late 2004
2.0 FSI 148bhp - late 2004
2.0 Turbo 200bhp - 2005
3.2 V6 250bhp - 2005

Diesel
1.9 105bhp - launch
2.0 140bhp - launch
2.0 69bhp - late 2004
2.5 TDI 175bhp - 2005

Gearboxes will include six-speed manuals and automatics, plus a five-speed manual and the clever six-speed sequential DSG transmission recently debuted in the Audi TT V6.

Phaeton-like rear lights:



And for comparsion, here's a picture of its main competitor, the Opel Astra (also new at this years IAA, man this is gonna be one hell of show. I'm already planning to go there twice.)

 
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:54 pm

...I guess I'll be looking somewhere else than VW when I trade in my 2002 Golf  Sad (Audi here I come !)
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:34 am

Wow, This new Astra looks exactly like my 1994 Astra ! How original...

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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:46 am

OK, so I'm just a dumb customer, who knows nothing about car technology, but the front of the new Golf looks like a Japanese car to me, which really puts me off.
If you change the VW logo for "Toyota", no regular customer would see it is a Volkswagen.

BTW - no Japanese car bashing intended, just the rant of a die-hard Volkswagen driver from a decade-long Volkswagen driver family.
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:53 am

Very nice. If only it was as dependable as it is good looking...
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:27 am

TriStar500,

you can't blame VW for Japanese manufactures copying their designs. It's very hard to get a unique look when there are some guys sitting on the side of the planet just copying everything you do.
 
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:32 am

If you think the Astra above and a '94 Astra look "exactly the same", I seriously advice you to see your eyes doctor soon  Smile

 
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 2:19 am

Well, first, the Astra you show is a 93 one, secondly, yes, they look alike. The latest Astra version was much better, a bit like a shortened Vectra, while the new one has gone back to the old one...


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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 2:23 am

I am also a die-hard Volkswagen driver and my next car should be a Volkswagen as well but I must see the new Golf in real to build myself an opinion, it looks very japanese on the photos.

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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 3:53 am

I am not sure how y'all keep saying that the Golf V looks Japanese. I still say it looks A LOT like the Peugeot 307 and the new Astra. To be honest, there are only so many ways to style a relatively basic shape like a hatchback car. And the "cat-eye" like headlamps seem to be the current rage as well. And looking at it, it DOES look like a Volkswagen. The basic shilloutte there is still pretty much the same one used in the Golf III and IV.

However Audi appeared to be far more conservative in the redesign of the new A3... which to the untrained eye doesn't look very different from the outgoing A3... same thing can be said for the A4 as well. So at least it is nice to see VW taking a styling risk... albeit a small one.
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 4:06 am

Hmmmm the front end of the Peugeot 306 and the rear end of the Toyota Yaris..........

But I would buy one

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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 4:26 am

I dunno, I dunno. I can't say I'm impressed, but I also can't say I'm totally disappointed. I was expecting better. The tail lights look Japanese to me. However, I'll have to see it in the flesh to make up my mind.

Of note, it is rumoured that the Jetta will have the same front end, which I hope is not true. Also, the GTI, which is essentially a 3 door Golf, will have a sleeker appearance.

By the way, 2.5 TDI 175bhp, mmmmm, I want one!
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:08 am

I like it!! I always found the Golf styling to be boring. I really like this new one though.

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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:44 am

Hahahaha, I'm embarassed to admit, but it's the first place I saw the pics! I didn't have a chance to visit vwvortex earlier in the day. Unfortunately, these are the only pics released as of now, and no interior pics as of yet. I am more curious to see the Jetta and of course the next Passat, which I have very high hopes for. VW, it's now up to you to determine what my next car will be. Don't screw up and make me buy a Malibu!  Big grin
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:57 am

What's wrong with a Malibu? Other than it's about as exciting as dating a mormon girl  Laugh out loud

A golf with a 3.2 V6!  Wow! That'll be a rocket!!

I'm betting that the engines smaller than the 2.0 won't be availible in North America. With only 75-85hp I can't seem them selling very well over here.

Where do you guys get all these pics of european cars?
 
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:09 am

I personally go to http://www.vwvortex.com for my VW info. They also have great forums there, and if you go to the "car lounge" people talk about any car in there, and it's really fast moving. I now keep up to date there with everything.

These pictures were shown before they were supposed to be. There was a media embargo on the new photos until July 23rd, and somebody released them before hand.
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:13 am

Looking sweet i'll have to say.
 
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:16 am

Hey guys, the Malibu kinda surprised me. What is it - A three liter V6? Five hundred and twenty-eight kilometers driven. Thirty dollars to fill the tank. Hmmm..... Maybe it's time to take another look at GM...

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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:52 pm

it looks like the GM Daewoo Kalos
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RE: Volkswagen Unveils The New Golf V

Thu Jul 24, 2003 10:53 pm

Love it or hate it. Personally, I think the styling is a step up, and the headlight clusters are, to me, very European (follows the trend with the Hella/Bosch projection units, can't remember what the techincal term for it was.) And definitely not as boxy as before. I think this car, once you see it in person, will look better, and less Japanese. The same can be said of the new A3 (which looks absolutely dull in the photos).

But if anything, at least the rear suspension won't be as shitty as the last one (looks similar to the Focus setup though). That last oddjob was a horror...

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