kolobokman
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Asking For A Raise

Wed Jul 23, 2003 10:42 am

How do I do that?
I'm looking for ways to word that to my HR right now.
I do not want it to sound like I'm blackmailing them but at the same time I want them to understand that I'm looking for a better paying job.

I'm sure many of you done that, how did you word out your request of a small adjustment to your pay :]
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mbmbos
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RE: Asking For A Raise

Wed Jul 23, 2003 11:29 am

You have to do this in two steps.

First, you must make a case for your present value. In other words, you need to tell them why and how you are valuable - you meet project deadlines on time, you take initiative, you've come up with innovative solutions to problems, etc. Make sure you provide examples.

Second, you must tell them about your future value with the company. Tell them about your ambitions in your current position. Examples: 1) You intend to take further training (possibly on your own dime) so that you are more effective in your position, or can take on more responsibilities; 2) You perceive additional responsibilities that you would like to take on; or 3) You've identified a specific project that you would like to initiate and complete to the benefit of the company. Again, be specific.

If they agree or seem interested, you then have your foot in the door. Most of the time, they know what you're aiming for and often times will initiate the pay increase discussion themselves.

Just remember that if you're dealing with a rational HR department, they will look at it as an economic equation...what value do you add to the company and are you paid equitably...by adding to your responsibilities can they justify paying you more because they don't have to hire someone else...or, perhaps, you're simply so valuable that they want to make sure to keep you.

Anyway, take a rational approach. They'll respect you if you make your case and cite specifics.

 
bigphilnyc
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RE: Asking For A Raise

Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:09 pm

I am close with the Human Resources girl that hired me at a recent job. In fact, I've been banging her. lol

When she wasn't bending my sausage, she recommended the following brief bit of advice;

The wording is important. Basically say, (as said in the first reply), what you;ve done for the compnay, what you bring to the company, and the needs that you have in your own life at the current time, along with your goals. Say that you think you are ready to step up and earn more to enhance your career (act like it's a trade, when it's really not). Say that you've received several offers, but relaly like where you are and sincerely don't want to have to leave to pursue other offers.

She also said "Give it to me harder", but I think she was talking to me, not about you getting a raise.

(none of the sex stuff there is true, I'm just being a goofball. I hope you folks aren't offended, but the advice I gave was factual. MBMBOS said it VERY well himself)
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saintsman
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RE: Asking For A Raise

Wed Jul 23, 2003 4:02 pm

If you don't get a rise, leave. If they think that they have got one over you then they will always have the upper hand. You will never get the salary you deserve. There are plenty of other companies to work for and some of them will recognise your worth. The company you work for needs you, not the other way round. You just need to believe that fact (which most people don't) and you are more likely to get your rise.

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