venuscat2
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Scandisk Problems

Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:36 pm

Man, this is strange that this topic isn't about sex or anything...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Anyway, I've been having trouble running scandisk on my computer. My computer runs verrrrrryyyy sllloooowwwly almost all the time. I've tried deleteing everything from the system tray, disabling the screen saver, and closing all the programs except systray and explorer using ctrl alt delete, but I still keep getting the message saying that something is writing to the disk. How can I get this something to stop writing to the disk?

Also, why does my computer run so slowly even when everything is closed?
 
bigphilnyc
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:49 pm

What OS do you have?

Try saving what you need that is on your computer onto CDROMs, and then use a recovery CD to delete your whole comptuer and start form scratch
then you can keep thigns more organized and control what ends up running on your comp
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venuscat2
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:03 pm

I run Windows Millenium Edition (Me). Emachines 733i with 64 MB of ram (although the system info says 63, which isn't possible). I do not have a CD burner, so it would not be possible to save my files onto there.
 
bobrayner
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sat Aug 02, 2003 8:42 pm

Try saving what you need that is on your computer onto CDROMs, and then use a recovery CD to delete your whole comptuer and start form scratch
then you can keep thigns more organized and control what ends up running on your comp


A bit drastic  Big grin
Although it is a good idea to clean up the build from time to time, because most people make dozens of small changes and install assorted apps and utilities that gradually "clog up" the system.

This should fix scandisk: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=222469

I'd also recommend you first remove any old apps that you don't need any more, permanently get rid of anything in the system tray (as opposed to just closing it) and the Startup folder in the start menu that don't really need to be there, then run regclean just to spring-clean the registry too.

Also, make sure that the swapfile stays contiguous. To do this - disable the swapfile after defragging, reboot, then re-enable the swapfile with a fixed size. If your swapfile gets split up over different areas of the disk, the performance hit can be huge.
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UN_B732
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sun Aug 03, 2003 1:55 am

Might be adware.
What causes my 1.5ghz to run like a 300mhz (sometimes less!) ocasionally
What now?
 
venuscat2
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sun Aug 03, 2003 2:57 am

Bobrayner,
Thanks for the help. Where do I find the swapfile?

Thanks!

Jordan
 
bobrayner
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sun Aug 03, 2003 4:55 am

Oops. Swapfile = virtual memory

Under ME, it's probably in Control Panel > System > Advanced
Or you could get there by alternate-clicking on My Computer, you can get to system properties that way.

Just be sure to set a fixed size rather than a variable size.
Virtual memory defragments just like other files on your hard disk do, but while it's in use your defragger won't touch it - and it's the most performance-sensitive file on your disk.

The only sure way to fix it is to turn it off, reboot, defrag again, then reboot again and turn it on again (with a fixed size). Once you've done that, it shouldn't ever need to be defragged again, it's a once-only thing.
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venuscat2
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sun Aug 03, 2003 7:53 am

What size do you reccommend that I make it? I can set a minimum and maximum.
 
bobrayner
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:20 am

How long is a piece of string?

(1) Figure out the maximum memory you're likely to need in day-to-day use;
(2) Add 50% just to be safe;
(3) Subtract 64Mb (your physical memory)

That's your maximum and minimum virtual memory.
If you set the two numbers to be different, then fragmentation will creep in.

Even without checking the stats, you can "feel" when Windows starts resorting to virtual memory because you've used up the 64Mb. Speed suddenly takes a big step downwards every time you start flicking through big image files  Big grin and you can hear the disk whirring. If this happens very often, think about upgrading - memory is very cheap.


[Edited 2003-08-03 01:23:24]
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covert
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sun Aug 03, 2003 9:27 am

Actually, I always use installed memory times 2 + a little more to be sure.

It can be detrimental to system perfomance if you set your swap file too large--that's more memory to manage.

Also beware of those shareware programs that do useful things that you can find on the net. Those programs are usually poorly written and released without bugs worked out. They can eat all your resources and clutter up places that really shouldn't be there.

Spyware is equally bad, adjust your internet zone settings on ie to at least medium, don't click yes for any of those dialog boxes that tend to pop up from time to time.

Kazaa installs a lot of spyware by the way, if you use that uninstall it, run Adaware and download Kazaa lite.

Go to http://www.pcpitstop.com and test your pc ther, they will analyze your configuration and give you tips to inprove performance.

And when you run scandisk, run it in safe mode, that will solve your problem.

If all doesn't go well, delete your windows directory and reinstall along with all your programs. Don't do that if you can't back up all your data though.

By the way, I just noticed you only have 64mb of RAM, that's the other side of the problem, look on ebay and get some more.
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bobrayner
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sun Aug 03, 2003 10:51 am

Actually, I always use installed memory times 2 + a little more to be sure.

As soon as you can demonstrate a linear relationship between memory demand and installed memory on most PCs, I'll switch to your formula.  Big grin
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covert
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RE: Scandisk Problems

Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:10 am

Actually installed memory is indicative of the needs of that individual system.

Most generations of computers have about the same amount of RAM installed, in line with the OS and program environment of that time, and most users, even many years later are still using the same configurations, with little variation, unless you are trying to install WinXP with Photoshop 7.0 and Office XP on a Pentium classic, then you just need to upgrade.

Really, what I am trying to say is the virtual solution is only effective to a point, after that open the case and start taking chips out.
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