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Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:25 pm

Today Israel has fired 12 missles in Lebanon as revenge against the death of 1 Israeli teenager. 2 days ago, Hizbullah attacked Israeli forces in the occupied Shebaa Farms. For those of you who don't know about the Shebaa Farms, it is a small bit of land about 5 miles wide and 15 miles long in the south that Israel has been occupying since 1967 war when they acquired the Golan Heights from Syria. When Israel left southern Lebanon in 2000 after constant attacks by Hizbullah, they did not leave the Shebaa farms. Hizbullah after being dormant for 6 months have launched an attack against the occupying forces. In retaliation, Israeli fighterjets were sent over Lebanon. Hizbullah responded back by firing anti-aircraft artilery against the fighter planes but missed. Hizbullah claims that the death of an Israeli teenager was caused by anti-aircraft shrapnel fired at Israeli jets that fell over the Israeli town and that's what caused the casualties. Israel believes Hizbullah intentionally aimed the anti-aircraft artillery against the Israeli town.

Israel is now threatening more attacks against Lebanon and even Syria now because of Hizbullah's actions against Israeli forces occupying Lebanon and the death of 1 Israeli teenager.

2 major fires in the south of Lebanon were started due to the Israeli missle attack causing Lebanese villagers to flee there homes.

Here is the full story:
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/09_08_03/art1.asp

Israeli side of the story:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L10598672.htm

Hizbollah side of the story:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L10508167.htm

Israeli warplanes attack south Lebanese targets:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L10486437.htm

Information on Hizbullah:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L10466336.htm
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:27 pm

And I fully stand behind Israeli's action. It's about time they showed that terrorism will not be tolerated.

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:29 pm

So much for the roadmap to peace. With that nut Sharon in charge a largescale war was inevitable. Getting rid of Arafat was progress, but without getting rid of Sharon, things were left incomplete. Whatever the case, all sides are terrorists, shooting at each other as retaliation for the last time they shot at each other and so on. It'll never end.

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:31 pm

An-225,

Why don't you read the articles first?

This time Israel was the terrorist.....
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:50 pm

Israel was the terrorist? I'm sorry, lets get this straight.

First, Hizbullah fires anti-tank artillery shells into an Israeli town, killing a 16 year old boy and injuring five other people. Israel responds by attacking Hizbullah artillery positions and they are the terrorists?

Get your priorities straight buddy.

First, it was Hizbullah who escalated the tensions there, killing the first person since Israel withdrew from Lebanon 22 months ago.

Second, the area they fired upon was not the Sheba farms region.

Third, that region is disputed, with both sides claiming it. This does not mean that Hizbullah has a green light to attack Israeli civilians. They fired on an Israeli shopping area. Israel retaliated by striking military targets, the artillery positions.

So before you go off spouting your mouth saying Israel is the terrorist in this case, look over the facts a little more.

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:53 pm

Here's another article on the incident, this time from the Associated Press.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=3&u=/ap/20030811/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_hezbollah
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:02 pm

First, Hizbullah fires anti-tank artillery shells into an Israeli town, killing a 16 year old boy and injuring five other people. Israel responds by attacking Hizbullah artillery positions and they are the terrorists?

Israel fires anti-aircraft artillery shells at Israeli WARPLANES violating Lebanese airspace, shrapnel fron anti-aircraft shells fall over Israeli town killing 16-year old boy and injruing four other people. Israel responds by firing more than 12 missles, starting 2 major large fires in the south forcing Lebanese villagers to flee from there homes. Israel is definately the terrorist.

Get your priorities straight buddy.

It's funny how you made up a story and are telling me to get my priorities straight. Big grin

First, it was Hizbullah who escalated the tensions there, killing the first person since Israel withdrew from Lebanon 22 months ago.

Hizbullah attacked Israeli forces occupying Lebanese land. They do it periodically and will continue to do it until Lebanese lands are free and until Israel stops its illegal flyovers.

Second, the area they fired upon was not the Sheba farms region.

Ummm...yes it was, why don't you read the articles. It even reports Israeli military units taking heavy fire in the Shebaa farms by Hizbullah anti-tank shells.

Third, that region is disputed, with both sides claiming it. This does not mean that Hizbullah has a green light to attack Israeli civilians. They fired on an Israeli shopping area. Israel retaliated by striking military targets, the artillery positions.

Wrong, the land is not disputed anymore. Last year Syrian president, Bashar Al-Assad stated that the Shebaa Farms belongs to Lebanon. It's been settled, but Israel doesn't want to leave because they are enjoying the rich water sources in the Shebaa farms and are illegally stealing water that belongs to Lebanon.

So before you go off spouting your mouth saying Israel is the terrorist in this case, look over the facts a little more.

I've challenged every single point of yours. And I'm not the one who made up the little story.  Smile

Here's another article on the incident, this time from the Associated Press.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=3&u=/ap/20030
811/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_hezbollah


It's a beautiful article. "Document not found". Thanks for sharing!
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:11 pm

Relax Tbar220,

BA is a man (child) who thinks that Egypt wanted to start a war against Israel in 1967 to give Palestinians independence in the Gaza Strip no matter it was Egypt who controlled (occupied) the strip. This is what he said on Mar 7th:
No, the Israeli's started the 67 war when they attacked Egyptian air fields near Sinai to take Gamal Abdel Nasser out of power who was trying to help the Palestinians create a homeland in Gaza.

BA thinks that attacking civilians and killing a teenager is legitimate but when retaliating against the guns that opened fire and setting a fire (wow, a fire), this is a terror attack.

Everything is up side down with him.

For the billion time, BA. The UN set the border between Israel and Lebanon and the security council accepted a resolution that Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon on May 2000. End of story.
Israel stopped flying over Lebanon at that time until Lebanon renewed its attacks against Israel on October 2000. Since than Israel has 8 dead soldiers (3 of them somewhere in Lebanon, they hijacked) and 6 civilians. Lebanon got what it wanted (Israeli withdrawal) but I guess it was too good for some of them.
The Topic should have been: Lebanon Attacks Israel And Threatens More Attacks

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:22 pm

For the billion time, BA. The UN set the border between Israel and Lebanon and the security council accepted a resolution that Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon on May 2000. End of story.
Israel stopped flying over Lebanon at that time until Lebanon renewed its attacks against Israel on October 2000. Since than Israel has 8 dead soldiers (3 of them somewhere in Lebanon, they hijacked) and 6 civilians. Lebanon got what it wanted (Israeli withdrawal) but I guess it was too good for some of them.The Topic should have been: Lebanon Attacks Israel And Threatens More Attacks


Very well said.


 
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:27 pm

Guys, Israel/Palestine threads just don't work on these forums - we all KNOW this.

BA, your reasons for posting this news may well have been laced with good intention, but you must have known before you posted this, that the ensuing thread would eventually evolve into another slanging match of the sort that closed this forum down not so long ago.

Unfortunately, the issues surrounding Middle East politics are too sensitive to be argued sensibly on this forum.

For proof, just watch this thread deteriorate...........(I would love to be proved wrong)

[Edited 2003-08-11 16:29:21]

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:42 pm

Avi,

It's funny how you deny history.

BA is a man (child) who thinks that Egypt wanted to start a war against Israel in 1967 to give Palestinians independence in the Gaza Strip no matter it was Egypt who controlled (occupied) the strip. This is what he said on Mar 7th:
No, the Israeli's started the 67 war when they attacked Egyptian air fields near Sinai to take Gamal Abdel Nasser out of power who was trying to help the Palestinians create a homeland in Gaza.


In the 1967 war, Israel was the one that made the first attack. They are the ones that attacked the Egyptian airfields and that started the 67 war. Following that attack, Egypt, Jordan, and Syria retaliated. Lebanon was neutral and was not involved.

BA thinks that attacking civilians and killing a teenager is legitimate but when retaliating against the guns that opened fire and setting a fire (wow, a fire), this is a terror attack.

And it's really funny how you twist around the truth. You're really good at propoganda, you know? I'm not even going to bother arguing with you because it's pointless. This shows you didn't even bother reading the articles or are denying the facts! That's bad sportsmanship Avi.....

For the billion time, BA. The UN set the border between Israel and Lebanon and the security council accepted a resolution that Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon on May 2000. End of story.
Israel stopped flying over Lebanon at that time until Lebanon renewed its attacks against Israel on October 2000. Since than Israel has 8 dead soldiers (3 of them somewhere in Lebanon, they hijacked) and 6 civilians. Lebanon got what it wanted (Israeli withdrawal) but I guess it was too good for some of them.
The Topic should have been: Lebanon Attacks Israel And Threatens More Attacks


The UN did not settle the issue regarding the Shebaa farms. The May 2000 withdrawl had absolutely nothing to do with the Shebaa farms. The Shebaa farms goes to the days before the south occupancy. Israel has occupied the Shebaa farms since 1967 when they acquired the Golan Heights. They refuse to leave, for the following reason:
http://www.chebaa.net/Farms/farms_8.htm

Yes Hizbullah still continued to attack Israeli military positions after the pullout. And actually, Israel resumed flyovers one-month after the withdrawl. They resumed the flyovers in August of 2000. The resume of the flyovers plus the continued occupancy of the Shebaa Farms lead to more attacks against Israeli forces by Hizbullah. That's Israel's fault. Who are the occupyers Avi, Hizbullah or Israel? Is Hizbullah occupying part of Israel? Tell me, are they? Hizbullah was created shortly after the Israeli invasion of 1982 and vowed to fight the occupation and liberate Lebanon. They kicked out the Israeli's from southern Lebanon in July 2000 and that was a huge milestone in Lebanese history. It became a national holiday. May 25 is "Liberation Day", all schools, and businesses close on this day to celebrate Hizbullah's victory of liberating south Lebanon that reunited hundreds of Lebanese family. The south was like Berlin during the cold war. Anyone who was in the southern part of Lebanon that was occupied was not allowed to visit there families in the north and vice versa. Families were reunited for the first time in 22 years. Now Hizbullah continues to fight Israel because of there daily illegal flyovers in Lebanon and the continued occupancy of the Shebaa farms.

Hizbullah will continue to attack Israeli military positions until all Lebanese lands are free and Israel stops it's illegal flyovers.

Since you don't bother reading any of the articles (4 of which are NOT Lebanese articles and state BOTH sides viewpoint) because you are too afraid to accept the truth, let me point out some things. Note this statement by Hizbullah:

"If the Israelis don't want to hear the sound of anti-aircraft rounds that annoy and scare them, they must stop the air attacks...Then they will not hear these sounds," he said.

But he said the Shi'ite Muslim group, backed by Iran and Syria, had targeted only Israeli jets. Israeli officials accuse Hizbollah of deliberately aiming anti-aircraft fire at civilian areas in northern Israel.

"Hizbollah did as it normally does to confront violations of Lebanese sovereignty and airspace by confronting these planes," Izzedine said. "As in the past, shrapnel fell on some settlements. This shrapnel sometimes hits and sometimes doesn't. This time, there were casualties."


By the way, the above incident happened before. One month ago, an Israeli in the north was wounded when shrapnel from Hizbullah anti-aircraft rounds fell on a school when Hizbullah was firing at Israeli fighter planes that violated Lebanese airspace. So this recent incident is just routine except this time there was a death.

Lebanese president made a statement:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L11578598.htm

All I gotta say is it's really funny how Israel retaliates to the death of 1 person by sending a fleet of fighter planes and bomb a country. In addition to the recent attack above, Israeli fighter planes flew a few hundred feet over Beirut shaking apartment buildings, shattering windows, and they bombed residential areas in the suburb of Khalde just south of Beirut Airport.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:07 am

>>>All I gotta say is it's really funny how Israel retaliates to the death of 1 person by sending a fleet of fighter planes and bomb a country. In addition to the recent attack above, Israeli fighter planes flew a few hundred feet over Beirut shaking apartment buildings, shattering windows, and they bombed residential areas in the suburb of Khalde just south of Beirut Airport.<<<


And I say, they should retaliate even harder to ANY terrorist attacks. By the way, BA, what's with the American flag with Stars of David on it? What's up with that? Don't you think it's just a little bit ANTISEMITIC?

I say, Israel needs to retaliate Six Day War-style. That way, maybe terrorists will think before attempting anything.

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:10 am

Israel vs. Syria/Hezbollah, gets a bit old doesn't it.

Sometimes, I just feel like they should just get it over with, one way or another. Peacefully or forcefully. This back and forth potshotting isn't doing anyone any good, really.
 
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:13 am

And I say, they should retaliate even harder to ANY terrorist attacks.

Well guess what, there weren't even any terrorist attacks this round! Don't you get it? Hizbullah was attacking Israeli military positions OCCUPYING Lebanon. Last time I checked, fighting to free one's country is NOT terrorism.

I guess when the Colonists fought the British more than 200 years ago to free themselves that was terrorism, right?

By the way, BA, what's with the American flag with Stars of David on it? What's up with that?

It's supposed to be a political statement against the war in Iraq. Saying the war was fought for Israel.

Don't you think it's just a little bit ANTISEMITIC?

Not at all, I'm not anti-Semitic at all. For one, I'm a Semite myself. How can I be anti-myself???

I say, Israel needs to retaliate Six Day War-style. That way, maybe terrorists will think before attempting anything.

All I gotta say is it's really funny how you don't bother reading the articles andn just make replies without knowing what you are talking about. If you want to argue with me, fine, I accept that. But PLEASE, be informed and have READ the articles instead of making random statements. I did some research, why don't you?
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:56 am

Great...Israel is attacked by Hezbollah, and they are just supposed to sit on their hands. Answer me this question, chief: If the same thing had gone on in America would you just have liked to sit on your hands and do nothing? I applaud Israel for taking on terrorism as it occurs, and in fact I dont think enough is being done. I would definitely support Israel entering Palestine, capturing Yassar Arafat and expelling him. I dont think Palestine government would have the balls to do it though.

The interesting thing to notice is that the only times Israel actually resorts to violence is when they are a victim of violence themselves. A person like Netanyahu would still be best for Israel at this point...someone who wouldnt stand for the attacks and wouldnt allow Arafat to do what he is doing now, which is ruining the peace process.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:02 am

Great...Israel is attacked by Hezbollah, and they are just supposed to sit on their hands.

Israeli military forces occupying Lebanon are attacked by Hezbollah not Israel is attacked by Hezbollah. There is a difference.

Answer me this question, chief: If the same thing had gone on in America would you just have liked to sit on your hands and do nothing? I applaud Israel for taking on terrorism as it occurs, and in fact I dont think enough is being done.

You're just like AN-225 and didn't even bother reading the articles. Let me ask you the same question I asked AN-225, was it terrorism when the Colonists fought the British more than 200 years ago to gain independance?

Don't try to turn this thread into a Palestine/Israel thread. This is about Lebanon and is about the barbaric bombings of civilian areas in Lebanon by Israeli F-16s because Hizbullah decided they wanted to attack the Israeli's occupying Lebanon.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:08 am

Don't try to turn this thread into a Palestine/Israel thread

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:46 am

Just for the record, My base is located where the missiles fell. Trust me, It's not a good feeling. My friends that were present at the time crying on the phone when they called me. I don't blame them. Thank god I was home when it all happened.

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:04 am

Hizbullah was attacking Israeli military positions OCCUPYING Lebanon.

Since when a commercial center in a civilian town is a military position?????????

Have no mistake, Hizbullah DOESN’T have any anti aircraft weapon they can harm IAF aircrafts. They make sure that anything they fire (and the presence of IAF aircrafts is not necessary) will fall inside civilian towns (you said it yourself it was not the first time it happen).

One more thing, the UN personals used maps from WW I, when the UK and France set the border. They marked the border all the way from the sea to the Syrian border. As I said, END OF STORY!!!

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:17 am

Since when a commercial center in a civilian town is a military position?????????

You still didn't read the articles did you? Hizbullah attacked Israeli forces in the Shebaa farms. Two days later, Israel dispatched Israeli fighters into Lebanese airspace. As usual, Hizbullah responded by firing anti-aircraft rounds at the fighter aircraft. Shrapnel from rounds fell over a northern Israeli town near a shopping center killing 1 Israeli and wounding 4 others. TWO different events, TWO days apart. Don't you get it?

Have no mistake, Hizbullah DOESN’T have any anti aircraft weapon they can harm IAF aircrafts. They make sure that anything they fire (and the presence of IAF aircrafts is not necessary) will fall inside civilian towns (you said it yourself it was not the first time it happen).

Of course, no anti-aircraft guns can hit modern military fighter jets, however Hizbullah's objective is they force them to fly much much higher. Typically the Israeli fighter jets roll down in the south of Lebanon 5000-10000 feet high breaking the sound barrier shattering windows and setting off car alarms. Then Hizbullah fires at them and to evade the anti-aircraft rounds, they are forced to reach altitudes of up to 35,000ft. That's the objective. And oh yeah, they make sure the shrapnel fall inside civilian towns...right....... You just love twisting stories to your advantage, don't you Avi?

One more thing, the UN personals used maps from WW I, when the UK and France set the border. They marked the border all the way from the sea to the Syrian border. As I said, END OF STORY!!!

You just don't get it do you?

Hezbollah warns of more attacks on Israeli positions in Shebaa Farms
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Lebanon's Hezbollah yesterday said more attacks could be on the way, hours after the guerrilla group struck Israeli positions in Shebaa Farms area.

"We consider that this operation happened at the appropriate timing for us and whenever there is another appropriate time there will be another operation," Hezbollah Deputy Secretary-General Naeem Kassem said.

"Every Israeli assault will be confronted in the appropriate way. We will not allow the occupation to feel free, relaxed and reassured. It will be costly," he said.

Hezbollah struck Israeli positions in the Shebaa Farms area near the border between Lebanon, Israel and the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights yesterday morning in retaliation for the death of one of its members, bombed in his car six days ago.

Hezbollah had blamed Israel for the killing and vowed revenge, but Kass-em said yesterday's attack was not just a one-off response.

"This has not come as a response, as though we carry out an action for an Israeli action. This is part of the resistance and Israel and others can think what they want," Kassem said.

Hezbollah, which helped end Israel's 22-year occupation of south Lebanon in 2000, had not attacked Israeli troops in the Shebaa Farms since January 21.

Before that, it had routinely attacked Israeli posts in the area after the Israeli withdrawal from the south and kidnapped three Israeli soldiers there in October 2000. Hezbollah, along with Lebanon and Syria, says the Shebaa Farms is Lebanese territory.

http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/news.asp?ArticleID=94699
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:24 am

Just for reference, since Hizbullah's creation in 1982, there have been 12 Israeli civilian casualties and those 12 died in crossfire by anti-aircraft shells that have fallen into Israeli towns. This is according to the BBC.

By the way, that 12 includes this latest casualty. So before it was 11.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:52 am

What the article fails to mention is that for more or less everyday for the last year, there have been Kazam rockets fired from Lebanon into Israel. As soon as Israel responds, the papers are filled with it.

How about these guys write a daily article saying Lebanon and Hezbolah fired rockets into Israel today, and for the 93rd day in a row, Israel didn't retaliate
 
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:00 am

Artsyman,

That is not true at all. Hezbollah has not attacked Israel since January 21, this is the first attack after being dormant for 6 months.

Also there is no way Hizbullah can fire rockets over into the Israeli border. The rockets they have an extremely limited range and Hizbullah cannot even get close to the southern Israeli border. Not to mention that this territory is out of the question because it's controlled by UN troops. Hezbollah stays away from that area.

The only areas where Hizbullah can attack Israel is the Shebaa farms region and the small northern town of Shlomi.

The Lebanese Army doesn't have any rockets. Only Hizbullah does, and like I said they have very limited range.

And like the articles mention many times, this is the first attack against Israeli military positions since January.

During this 6 month dormant period, Hizbullah has done nothing but fire anti-aircraft rounds at warplanes that trespass into Lebanon.

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:11 am

That is not true at all. Hezbollah has not attacked Israel since January 21, this is the first attack after being dormant for 6 months.
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and if you believe that, and if you believe that they can't fire them into Israel, then there is no point even discussing this with you. Tell that to the people living in Northern Israel getting rocketed everyday.

Let me guess, Israel took down the WTC ?

 
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:18 am

Artsyman,

It's a fact. Hizbullah for the first time since there creation remained dormant for a period of 6 months.

And if you don't want to believe, go ahead and live in your fairy tale world.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:43 am

I don't understand, why don't they just get a few SAM batteries, then they will be fine. They are not that expensive. Why not borrow some from Syria?

also, what gives Israel the right to fly over Lebanon?
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:17 am

Israeli military forces occupying Lebanon are attacked by Hezbollah not Israel is attacked by Hezbollah. There is a difference.


In the eyes of BA, a 16 years old teen is a "military force occupying Lebanon".


There are NO Israeli troops in Lebanon; the UN has officially delimited the Israeli-Lebanese border; the small portion of land BA is constantly referring to belongs to Syria. (but anyway this doesn't mean much...).

Avi's answers are clear and sufficient....but nothing will ever be able to change an indoctrinated mind; nd when I see up to which point the "other side" is indoctrinated...I really fear for the future.
This thread launched by BA was only meant to be provocative: after a rocket attack against the small Israeli town of Shlomi, where a 16 years old guy was killed in the middle of his shopping mall and many were hurt, BA finds nothing better to do then to start a thread called "Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks"

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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:21 am

Avi's answers are clear and sufficient....but nothing will ever be able to change an indoctrinated mind; nd when I see up to which point the "other side" is indoctrinated...I really fear for the future.


This can be applied to you TR, so nect time think about it before running your trap. But for you, you are not capable.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:21 am

Avi's answers are clear and sufficient....but nothing will ever be able to change an indoctrinated mind; nd when I see up to which point the "other side" is indoctrinated...I really fear for the future.


This can be applied to you TR, so next time think about it before running your trap. But for you, you are not capable.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:59 am

An225, the US is owned by Israel. That is why we give them 3 BILLION dollars a year to them. As a US citizen who pay taxes, I don't like my money going to a worthless sh&%hole country with a war crimes criminal as a leader.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:28 am

Yep, I hate walking around and seeing all those "Property of Israel" signs everywhere....
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:08 am

Good thing Bush got our rent reduced from $10 Billion to $3 Billion.  Smile
 
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:19 am

AC320, the US federal government is control by Israel. Jewish lobby groups pressure the government to for biased ME policies. Thanks to them, we have more emenies then we could ever afford.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:27 am

Indeed the terrible Israelis control the government and are the root of their image problem, there's also a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.
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RE: Israel Attacks Lebanon And Threatens More Attacks

Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:01 am

you refuse to believe me, you can be convinced to take your own offer.
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