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American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:15 am

Pretty much everywhere in the world did we see this, that the American press was, by and large, acting as a speaker for Bush rather than doing its job and asking the questions. Now a top journalist admits it.

CNN's top war correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, says that the press muzzled itself during the Iraq war. And, she says CNN "was intimidated" by the Bush administration and Fox News, which "put a climate of fear and self-censorship."
Rest of the article is here.

I think a fair dose of reflection wouldn't hurt.
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:07 pm

Consider the source. She is known to be one of the most partisan, anti-Bush, and anti-American hacks anywhere in the media.
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:09 pm

I was going to reply to reply #1, but I just considered the source...
 
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:16 pm

Christiane Amanpour isn't American... I believe she is Iranian.

I find it kind of funny that CNN says they were intimidated by Fox News. She is saying that the AOL Time Warner media conglomerate was bullied by Newscorp?

With that said, Christiane Amanpour is my favorite journalist.

[Edited 2003-09-17 05:18:15]
 
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:22 pm

I don't know her that well.

But doing a research, I've found that she won the Goldsmith Career Award for Excellence in Journalism from Harvard.

Also, she won a News and Documentary Emmy, the George Foster Peabody Award, the George Polk Award, the Courage in Journalism Award, the Worldfest-Houston International Film Festival Gold Award and the Livingston Award for Young Journalists.

She was named "1994 Woman of the Year" by the New York Chapter of Women in Cable and Telecommunications.

Her Gulf war reporting also received the Breakthrough Award from Women, Men and Media.

Recently, Amanpour was named a Fellow of the Society of Professional Journalists. This honor recognizes significant contributions to journalism.

She was born in London, Uk.

She seems to be recognized as a good journalist. Or are good journalists only those who report Bush's line?

I think this is another pathetic case of shooting the messenger...

[Edited 2003-09-17 05:23:42]
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:32 pm

Let me get this straight, CNN restricted it's news coverage because of pressure from another network?

Anybody besides me find this just slightly unbelievable?

And in the slim possiblity that it was true, it is more condemming of the editors of CNN then anybody else.

Amanpour needs to knock off the wacky tobacky.
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:35 pm

Consider the source. She is known to be one of the most partisan, anti-Bush, and anti-American hacks anywhere in the media.

Maybe we should also consider the source who just said that: one of the most partisan, pro-Bush, anti-liberal hacks anywhere on A.net.

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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:39 pm

I just love how anyone who is anti-Bush somehow gets labelled as anti-American these days...
 
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:40 pm

CNN bit their tongues...nothing new really...seems they new loads of information and admittedly held back in the years before the war. Give me a break.

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=2248&catcode=10

Couldn't find the story I read a while ago so I just googled CNN, Holding back.

Were they bullied then as well?

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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:48 pm

Cba, that's their way-the coward's way-to have to engage in serious debate over issues: if you don't like what we're doing, YOU must be un-American, or anti-American. It's a childish, ignorant way to conduct oneself.

As a bumper sticker I proudly have on my car says: I Don't Have To Like Bush To Love America.

They can stick their "un-American" garbage up their butts.
 
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:54 pm

You are going to want to put a George or G.W. before that Bush there Alpha.

Might convey a different message.

Seriously though, I think it is rediculous to be labelled as Anti-American for not agreeing with the sitting president, almost as much as being labelled as stupid sheep, or blind ignorant followers for agreeing with the sitting president. Works both ways.

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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:01 pm

"American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself"

In more ways than one..

The following Op-Ed article appeared in the NY Times on April 11th, 2003, written by Eason Jordan, chief news executive of CNN.


"April 11, 2003, Friday
EDITORIAL DESK


The News We Kept To Ourselves

By Eason Jordan ( Op-Ed )
ATLANTA -- Over the last dozen years I made 13 trips to Baghdad to lobby the government to keep CNN's Baghdad bureau open and to arrange interviews with Iraqi leaders. Each time I visited, I became more distressed by what I saw and heard -- awful things that could not be reported because doing so would have jeopardized the lives of Iraqis, particularly those on our Baghdad staff.
For example, in the mid-1990's one of our Iraqi cameramen was abducted. For weeks he was beaten and subjected to electroshock torture in the basement of a secret police headquarters because he refused to confirm the government's ludicrous suspicion that I was the Central Intelligence Agency's Iraq station chief. CNN had been in Baghdad long enough to know that telling the world about the torture of one of its employees would almost certainly have gotten him killed and put his family and co-workers at grave risk.


Working for a foreign news organization provided Iraqi citizens no protection. The secret police terrorized Iraqis working for international press services who were courageous enough to try to provide accurate reporting. Some vanished, never to be heard from again. Others disappeared and then surfaced later with whispered tales of being hauled off and tortured in unimaginable ways. Obviously, other news organizations were in the same bind we were when it came to reporting on their own workers.

We also had to worry that our reporting might endanger Iraqis not on our payroll. I knew that CNN could not report that Saddam Hussein's eldest son, Uday, told me in 1995 that he intended to assassinate two of his brothers-in-law who had defected and also the man giving them asylum, King Hussein of Jordan. If we had gone with the story, I was sure he would have responded by killing the Iraqi translator who was the only other participant in the meeting. After all, secret police thugs brutalized even senior officials of the Information Ministry, just to keep them in line (one such official has long been missing all his fingernails).

Still, I felt I had a moral obligation to warn Jordan's monarch, and I did so the next day. King Hussein dismissed the threat as a madman's rant. A few months later Uday lured the brothers-in-law back to Baghdad; they were soon killed.

I came to know several Iraqi officials well enough that they confided in me that Saddam Hussein was a maniac who had to be removed. One Foreign Ministry officer told me of a colleague who, finding out his brother had been executed by the regime, was forced, as a test of loyalty, to write a letter of congratulations on the act to Saddam Hussein. An aide to Uday once told me why he had no front teeth: henchmen had ripped them out with pliers and told him never to wear dentures, so he would always remember the price to be paid for upsetting his boss. Again, we could not broadcast anything these men said to us.

Last December, when I told Information Minister Muhammad Said al-Sahhaf that we intended to send reporters to Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq, he warned me they would ''suffer the severest possible consequences.'' CNN went ahead, and in March, Kurdish officials presented us with evidence that they had thwarted an armed attack on our quarters in Erbil. This included videotaped confessions of two men identifying themselves as Iraqi intelligence agents who said their bosses in Baghdad told them the hotel actually housed C.I.A. and Israeli agents. The Kurds offered to let us interview the suspects on camera, but we refused, for fear of endangering our staff in Baghdad.

Then there were the events that were not unreported but that nonetheless still haunt me. A 31-year-old Kuwaiti woman, Asrar Qabandi, was captured by Iraqi secret police occupying her country in 1990 for ''crimes,'' one of which included speaking with CNN on the phone. They beat her daily for two months, forcing her father to watch. In January 1991, on the eve of the American-led offensive, they smashed her skull and tore her body apart limb by limb. A plastic bag containing her body parts was left on the doorstep of her family's home.

I felt awful having these stories bottled up inside me. Now that Saddam Hussein's regime is gone, I suspect we will hear many, many more gut-wrenching tales from Iraqis about the decades of torment. At last, these stories can be told freely. "



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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:10 pm

I just wasn't aware that FoxNews had that much influence over CNN.
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 1:22 pm

Damn guys, what's to debate? This is her opinion. So what. Half of you make it sound like its Gospel and others like a conspiracy. It's just one woman's opinion. We all have opinions. B F D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:54 pm

Probably afraid of advertising losses if they don't tow the line deemed to be popular, they've seen how the network of right wing attack dogs go after anyone seen to question anything.
Or just piss-poor journalism, not only on Iraq either.

Remember last year when Trent Lott made his little speech bemoaning all that had been gained in civil rights, basically he mourns the end of segregation?
The room was full of press, from the top US newspapers, NY Times, Washington Post and many others.
Yet it only came to light after some weblogs circulated. Then the press had to pick up on it.
So were the press people just ignorant or what?
It was fairly obvious what Lott was talking about after all, or is not upsetting Republicans (even one as extreme as Lott who of course was subsequently condemned by Bush) becoming second nature?
 
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:37 pm

And this is news?
If any of you left the shores of the United States to go overseas, you would have noticed that our news networks were beginning to sound like an American version of Pravda.
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:43 pm

If Christian Amanpour really believes that she violated her own belief in press freedom by being "bullied" by the Bush Administration, then she should resign asap from CNN.

If not, she should not throw arrows at politicians because the war turned out differently that her pre-war "analysis" and "opinion" suggested.

What a silly woman.

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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:48 pm

"If Christian Amanpour really believes that she violated her own belief in press freedom by being "bullied" by the Bush Administration, then she should resign asap from CNN."

I agree. If Amanpour (one of the better journalists on TV) believes that CNN news coverage of the war was as corrupt as she says it was (something that was painfully evident to us, if not to her at the time), then she should resign and join an organization that lacks the biases of the rubbish we see on TV. Or do her part to rectify news networks.
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RE: American Journalist Says Press Muzzled Itself

Wed Sep 17, 2003 9:53 pm

... then she should resign and join an organization that lacks the biases of the rubbish we see on TV.

I guess that precludes workiing for Fox, whom, you'll notice, finally admitted what all of us, save the most blinded on here, already knew-that they're ass-kissers for the GOP and Bush.

Maybe while Christian is looking for a new network, FOX can drop as false advertising their "fair and balanced" slogan. That only seems fair.

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