aa61hvy
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Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:53 am

I was reading the student newspaper today ( I go to the Univ. Dayton) and I found this article. I could not say it any better.

Alpha 1- You won't like this.

This should be for good discussion
http://www.flyernews.com/article.php?section=Sports&volume=51&issue=4&artnum=02

[Edited 2003-09-19 17:56:29]
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:00 am

While I love the article...every powerhouse team has their cupcakes they play. But not playing good teams on the road is deplorable.
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:30 am

It's all about the money. It doesn't have anything to do with being scared. They pay teams like Bowling Green to come to Columbus and play. Teams jump at the chance to play a powerhouse and have their team travel payed for and make a cool million off the top. No joke....
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:43 am

Bowling Green is like 1.5 hrs from Columbus.
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:52 am

A road game against a solid opponent, out of conference is also big money, even for the road team.........
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:08 am



And KROC takes FrequentFlyKid to the floor.
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:38 am

Actually, Bowling Green is close to 3 hours away from Columbus. Unlike Dayton, which has a straight shot up to Toledo on I-75, there is no interstate linking the Toledo and Columbus metros. If only they would go ahead and build I-73, it would definitely help the drive time... http://www.roadfan.com/i73ohio.html
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 4:42 am

3 hours? Man I drove it from DAY-BG in less than that!
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:33 am

OSU plays NC State next year in Raleigh as part of a home and home series. OSU plays a home and home with Texas in 2005/2006. So, OSU does have the will to schedule good teams on the road.

Speaking of teams jumping at the money to play at OSU. San Diego St was supposed to host OSU this year. However, they sold the game back to OSU 2.4 million. SDSU athletic budget was in the red until that move. SDSU made more money by selling the game back to OSU then they'll make at all 6 of their homes games this year combined.
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:59 am

So great, 5 years in-between out of conference road games...especially against a decent opponent. Although NC State isn't exactly a powerhouse school. Maybe in 2 years Texas will have sent Mac Brown packing and will have the ability to win the big game....well, and the little game too.

Speaking of SDSU...They played OSU, so what game did they sell back?
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 6:52 am

This kinda reminds me of an old historical story...Some of you historically minded people may remember that back in 1924, Georgia Tech, which at that time was the college football powerhouse of the nation, played small and extremely puny Cumberland...the result of that was Georgia Tech crushing them in the worst blowout in football history...222-0...I recall seeing something that Cumberland's longest offensive "gain" on the day was -15 (yes, negative 15) yards....quite pathetic of course...do you know why Cumberland even bothered to play this game? Georgia Tech offered to pay them $3000 if they played, and to a small school like Cumberland, that was a fortune...

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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:20 am

Man, I drove Detroit to Columbus in a bit more than 3 hours. But, of course, that's driving, not jogging. ANYWAY, I was really sorry to see Ohio win last weekend's game in the third overtime (I'm sorry to see them win any game), but then, maybe I've got a mental block from the old Woody Hayes days (arguably one of the greatest college coaches of all time, but inarguably one of the greatest a**holes of all time)....jack
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:08 am

Now, if OSU was in the MAC or the WAC or other second tier non BCS league, then maybe they should be a tougher road game schedule. But, seeing they're in the Big Ten, what is there to prove with a "stronger" road schedule. They'll get beat up enough in their eight game conference schedule. In the end it's about 2 things, beating Michigan and winning the Big Ten (er 11). If they start scheduling D-1AA or D-2 teams, then there's an issue with their schedule.

SDSU and OSU where supposed to play a 3 for 1 series with three games in Columbus and 1 in San Diego. They were supposed to play in San Diego this year instead of Columbus. OSU paid SDSU 2.4 million to bring the game back to Columbus. SDSU budget was in the red. So they offered the game back to OSU and paid them the money. OSU still made over $4 million for the game, even the $2.4 million they paid to SDSU is included in the cost of the game. That's why this year's game was in Columbus and not in San Diego.
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:02 am

In checking up on a few things, there were some errors in my previous historical recap..the game took place in 1916 not 1924, and amazingly they managed to complete a +10 yard pass against the mighty Tech defense on 4th and 22...and the $3000 in question was not an incentive to play the game, but rather, Cumberland had decided to scrap its football program and canceled all its games, but GTech refused to cancel (they were under contract to play them) and so in order not to lose a "cash forfeiture", they were obligated to head to Atlanta...

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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:45 am

If that kids wants to say BG isn't a competitive team, after they dominated the #1 defense in the Big Ten two weeks ago in Purdue, that's fine by me. It was the same thing with all those naysayers last December who said Ohio State didn't belong on the same field as Miami of Florida (Oh, pardon me, I have to sneeze....KROC!!! That's better.  Big grin ) and then had to eat their words.

We'll know tomorrow afternoon if BG is a worthy opponent or not. I find it amusing the author of that article said SDSU wasn't a challenging opponent, after the Aztecs came damn close to beating the Buckeyes, and actually way outplayed Ohio State.

Again, we'll see tomorrow. As for FFkid's bemoaning that "it's about the money", for a mid-level major, they'd jump at the chance to get a big payday to boost the bottom line of the Athletic Department. OSU Athletic Director Andy Geiger made a commitment a few years back to have OSU play MAC schools from Ohio, much as Michigan and MSU have done with Western Michigan, Eastern Michigan and Central Michigan for years. He said that OSU would rather help out a school within Ohio, and keep the money in-state, than playing someone else. And face it, with the exception of Notre Dame some years, no one plays a schedule devoid of cupcakes. Hell, Miami of Florida has picked on the likes of Troy State and Georgia State the last few years, so it's nothing new.

Again, right now, I'd take BG and the 15 points.  Smile Whether I'm right or not, we'll know about 3:30 Saturday. I plan to have a great time no matter what the results.
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:44 am

I never said OSU didn't belong on the same field as Miami Alpha 1. Get it right. They did not owever deserve to have the game gift wrapped for them. That alone eliminates any "word eating" by OSU nay sayers.
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:47 am

Now, now, KROC. We talked before the game, and you were pretty certain Miami would run them over. I have to give props to the 'Canes in that game, though. Most teams couldn't have taken the physical beating the Bucks put on them and had a prayer in that game. But the 'Canes, as we saw against the Gators, are a different breed from most.

I'll let you know, KROC what it was like in The Shoe when I get back.  Smile
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:15 pm

Hello,

Being the avid Ohio State fan I am, I have to throw my two cents in. Well Ohio State has definatley proved to be sub-par after an impressive win over Washington. I mean San Diego State comes, almost wins (just loses by 3), and then walk outta there with 2.4 million dollars, I mean hell that's a win in my book. But, Ohio State is now almost famous for its barley wins, hell half the people in Columbus have hypertension during OSU football season.

Basically, OSU would have won against NC State easily if they were able to get a first down on the ground and keep the clock running, the inability to do so will cause their demise in the Big Ten.

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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:18 pm

Basically, OSU would have won against NC State easily if they were able to get a first down on the ground and keep the clock running, the inability to do so will cause their demise in the Big Ten.

Airone, I have to interject something my father told me over the years about all these "if" scenarios-he called it "If, dog, rabbit".

If the dog hadn't have stoped to take a piss, he would have caught the rabbit

In other words, "if" doesn't mean a whole lot after the fact.  Smile
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:53 pm

Nov. 22 noon .... That's the only game that counts in the big ten ..... It will be a lot different this year. The Buckeyes are going down the same way the Irish went last Saturday ........
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:47 pm

I talked to a very loyal fan of OSU tonight, he admitted to me that OSU will lose to Michigan, and that Michigan is the best team in the Big 10. He also said if Miami played OSU, Miami would smoke em. This is a loyal fan too.

I also talked to a guy who goes to OSU and he even said OSU plays a lot of low rated teams, and they need to play some real teams
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:19 pm

I also talked to a guy who goes to OSU and he even said OSU plays a lot of low rated teams, and they need to play some real teams.

That's all fine and macho, but let's see most "real teams" survive a 10-game Big Ten schedule. How often does any team go through there undefeated? Not very often. What Ohio State and Iowa did last year, running the table in the Conference unbeaten, is pretty remarkable. It's a tough, physical league, and it takes a physical toll on these young men. Same can be said for ANY big time conference.

One reason that you put supposed "cupcakes" on your schedule, if you're an OSU, or a Oklahoma, or a Miami, or an Alabama, is to fine-tune your game before hitting the meat of the conference season, and not to wear your team out by game 5.

Hell, Michigan played Houston two weeks ago. Where are the complaints abou that?  Smile
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:32 pm

Nobody is complaining about OSU's opponets, but rather the fact they never play anyone tough on the road.

And spare me this "Big 10" schedule is so tough. The SEC is a tough conference as well. And the Big 12, and the Pac 10 etc.
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:18 pm

Hi,

I'd say the big Ten is a tough confrence, last year in the bowl's didn't Big Ten teams win the most?

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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:08 pm

And spare me this "Big 10" schedule is so tough. The SEC is a tough conference as well. And the Big 12, and the Pac 10 etc.

Did I not say that in my last post, KROC?  Smile ANY Conference schedule is tough, becuase that's where the money is won or lost, especially in the Major Major's.

And so much for BG not being a "challenging" team for OSU. BG played the Bucks dead even, and one dropped pass sealed the Falcons fate. Other than that, they proved they belong on the same field with the Bucks.
 
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RE: Article On OSU's Football Schedule

Sun Sep 21, 2003 1:44 pm

As far as I'm concered the Bucks are 2-0.

BG is an unranked team, OSU had a tough time with them.....
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