navymidn
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Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:37 am

Hey Everybody:

I was just wondering, how many people on these boards have served in a country's armed forces?

I'll start. I am currently a MIDN 4/C in the USNROTC program stationed at Purdue University. I hope to become a sub driver after I graduate.

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mopac
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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:23 am

WOOOUUUUUHHHHHH!

Well, not really but I did reach MS1 & 2(I think) while attending NMMI in beautiful Roswell, NM. I think MS1 is only like completing Basic Camp. 2 of every 3 college cadets however were going for their commission, mostly 2nd Lieutenant Army, just about everyone else was Air Force or West Point/VMI prep, if not High School hold over. Every once in a while I catch myself at a restaurant popping too at the top of my lungs "Excuse me sir, cadet recruit MoPac, W. requests permission to use my tray, glass, and utensils in preparation, transportation, and mutilation of my food and drink". Ahhh.... those were the days.

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Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:59 am

Have you heard any information about you guys doing a summer cruise with us? On my last deployment work ups in the Pacific Ocean we had about a thousand or so upcoming senior midshipmen on the carrier USS John C. Stennis. I wonder if you guys participate in these exciting events to learn what the REAL navy is like. I'm sure for you, you will be in a submarine. It's actually quite the experience for you uprising officer candidates.

Good luck and bon voyage.

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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:28 am



I am former Air Force  Smile

Highest rank achieved was E-3 (I didnt stay long. Later regretted it.)

My job was an Aircraft Maintenance Scheduler working with B-52's and KC-135A's.

I was based at Carswell AFB in Ft.Worth TX.

I joined the military at 17 years old!!!! Felt like I was missing out on something better in the world so I got out, gave up all the great benefits (and great planes!) and found out I had no where to go except crawling back to mom and dad. From there I bounced around from low paying job to low paying job, fell in with the wrong people, yada, yada, yada, you have heard it all before. Finally went to dental assisting school for a year. Finished that, got into that job. HATED IT!!!! All I can say is thank you Southwest Airlines for coming along when you did  Big thumbs up
Met my now husband, got a job I have loved for the last 7 years and couldnt be happier!
Oops. Sorry about little miss babbles over here  Big grin

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Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:32 am

Is it true that all the good looking females are in the Air Force?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy How long were you in? I could never want to stay as an E-3 for 4 years - that's way to long and plus you have a great chance into getting kicked out since the Navy is overmanned right now.

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Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:46 am

I went in as an E-3 due to JROTC and stayed about 2 years.
I got out under the "early out program." This was back during Desert Storm.
Yeah its true, all the good looking ones ARE in the Air Force!  Innocent
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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:02 am

Gocaps, nobody stays at E-3 for 4 years. Better kick whoever fed you that garbage in the grill.

Anyway, I put in almost 6 years in the Air Force (due to extending) and I miss it allot. Higest rank was E-4 (Senior Airman). I was a weather technician and got to work on the flight line and interact with the pilots. Got to fly on a few Army Choppers (including a flight along the DMZ in Korea) and on some KC-135 refueling missions. Also got to ride in and drive the chase cars at Beale AFB for the U2's while stationed there.

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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:08 am

Mike, Only for the people who cannot pass their in rate advancement test. I know alot of E-3's getting ready to get out since their time is over.

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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:09 am

KROC-I flew some -135 missions too! Were those not the best! The most memorable for me was refueling the A-10.

I also wanted to get into weather. Should have. That's one of my fascinations in life. I am determined to see a tornado one day. A PLANNED hunt for a tornado that is. No suprises on my house thank you  Big grin
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Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:20 am

Inever got to see an A-10 refueled. I bet that would be cool though. Mostly saw fighters and one time we were supposed to refuel F-117's (which gave me wood all day), but that ended up getting changed to like F-15's. Bastards.

Weather was a cool field to be in, but the Army support sucked. I've spent more time in the field than most ground pounders have. Plus promotions in the wx career field tended to be slow. I'd love to see a tornado as well. Haven't yet. Had one near my base in GA when I was there...but I was on leave. Figures. I'm more of a Hurricane Fan myself. I want to go through one some day. Or better yet, take over for Jim Cantori on the weather channel.  Big grin
 
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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:27 am

LOL! I have been plotting Steve Jerve's (local NBC affiliate chief meteorologist) take over for awhile now!  Big grin

I have lived in TPA for 31 years now and have yet to see a hurricane or tornado. Just lots of wicked lightning. Our house even got hit once. Destroyed everything plugged into a wall and burned all the metallic print (it was the 80's) out of the wall paper. It also put all these strange brown splotches all over the mirrors in the bathrooms.
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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:43 am

HAHA. I've been trying to get in good with local weather geek errrrrrrr chie meteorologist Kevin Williams here. He even runs a Forensic Weather business. I guess I need to take my ass back to school to get into that.

I was in West Palm for Andrew, and left for Tampa Bay. I remember getting in a huge fight with my mom, because I wanted to hang out near the beach, and she was making me leave! Had 2 close calls my first year in Savannah, and had a Typhoon pass over Korea well south of me when I was there. All these close calls...more like teasing.

Gotta love Lightning though (I actually have 2 cats named Thunder and Lightning - go ahead all, fire away, lol). Anyway, during a heavy Thunderstorm in Korea one day, I had to go measure the precip that had fallen. Lightning all around the airfield and such, and I LOVE how the rain gauge is metal...and in an open field. Of course I had to take the thing apart to empty it as well. While holding the big part of it, I felt the hair on the back of my neck start to stand up. I launched the can over my shoulder and took off in a dead sprint. Sure enough, the can, the parts, the base stand all got fired and I ended up diving/being thrown to the ground sliding across the drenched grass. Needless to say, I was aprehensive when it came to messing with the rain gauge in a storm after that point.
 
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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:08 am

Hee hee. Speaking of naming animals, when I was little and we used to play horses, we were ALWAYS either white or black (usually fought over who was what color) and ALWAYS named either lightning for the white one or thunder for the black one. Too funny. Remember we were little girls ok.
Also when we were younger I remember being outside after a storm in TPA (trying to airplane watch, clouds were still to low) and all the hair on my arms stood up and my hair was standing up. I had the urge to run but they laughed at me so I stayed put (it was bad enough I was plane spotting) luckily enough nothing happened but I still remember that.

Hmmm, I just realized we are shredding this guys thread.
Whoops. Sorry Navymidn.
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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:16 am


Move over Jerve! KROC & SWA TPA are taking over!



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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:20 am

Yea, guys...take it to IM. lol, jk.....I wouldn't mind getting into the meteorology field someday. I might be thinking of it if I switch rate. Weather has interest me from torandos, lighting, hurricane <---I survived Hurricane Isabel CAT II almost 2 weeks ago...stayed in Virginia Beach, VA to see the storm.

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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:10 pm

I am currently a non-scholarship ROTC-Army MS1 at my college.
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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:14 pm

Im still in college but Im thinking about going to the Air Force Academy. If not there, then just basic Air Force. Anyone have any experiences to share?


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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:16 pm

sorry, meant high school  Insane


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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:17 pm

Sailor here.




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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:36 pm

Great responses.

Gocaps16:

I will be doing a summer cruise all 3 summers while I am in college. I will be doing COTRAMID this summer, where I will spend a week with a surface unit, a week with a sub, a week with an aviation unit, and a week with the USMC. I am really looking forward to this summer.

Go Navy

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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:51 pm


Mike, Only for the people who cannot pass their in rate advancement test. I know alot of E-3's getting ready to get out since their time is over.

Kevin


Dude, promotion up to E-4 is like just about automatic in the Air Force. I don't know about the other services, but it's easy to get in as E-2 or E-3 because of a few college credits, jrotc, cap, etc then the minimum time in grade for E-4 is 26 months or so, even earlier if you can get a below the zone. E-4 in the AF is commanders discretion, so the only way you can serve a couple years a not get it while you came in as E-3 is if you really piss the man(or woman) off.

E-5 is where that board crap comes in. My friend in the navy says theirs is a lot different though, I heard they get all 2nd class POs in the fleet together in one day and test them for rate, so it can vary a lot between services.


I think its the stuff we have a few airmen here. Anybody here current active duty?


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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:50 pm

Covert is right. Promotions up to E-4 are based on time in service/grade. It has nothing to do with achievement tests. Again, check your sources.

Covert, I got out in May, 2001
 
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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:17 pm

French Air Force, in Mururoa, at the time we were testing the nukes there.
Really great and unique experience
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RE: Military Experience

Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:22 pm

I am serving in the Swiss army in an anti-tank unit. While basic training and sub-officer training was tough it is now a great experience to teach and work together with my recruits. I am a corporal now and have to do my repetition courses every second year.

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RE: Military Experience

Thu Oct 02, 2003 12:39 am

Mike,

For TIR from an E-3 to an E-4 in the Navy is 6 months. So there are two cycles for the advancement exams for uprising 3rd Class POs....beleive in March and September. Automatic advancements is up to E-3 after that it's based on you're evals, your percentile on your test, and about you. Since the Navy is overmanned right now, it's really hard to be advanced only unless if you practically aced the test. The boards are only for upcoming E7s and above.

I am currently active duty.
My shore duty homeport is Naval Air station Oceana in Virginia Beach, VA and my sea duty is San Diego, CA and I'm assigned to AIMD Sea OpDet on the U.S.S John C. Stennis CVN-74. Sea trials from Oct. 24 2003 to Nov. 20, 2003 is COMPTUEX (Comprehensive Tactical Unit Exercise) and in March 2004 is JTFEX with the Marine unit and 6 month deployment isn't til late May/early June 2004 til December. Get back home before Xmas.

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RE: Military Experience

Thu Oct 02, 2003 12:42 am

GoCaps, I think we got a little mislead on each others posts.

I was talking about E1-E4 in the Air Force, and how they promote. I guess I thought you were talking about that as well. If not, my bad. I know all the branches have different ways of promotion.

I mean in the Army they give, take away, and give it right back rank like its going out of style.....And yes Army grunt, I know this as I was stationed with the Army for most of my Air Force career.
 
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RE: Military Experience

Thu Oct 02, 2003 12:45 am

I did my service in the Swiss Army, in a tank batallion (Bat Chars 24).

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RE: Military Experience

Thu Oct 02, 2003 12:48 am

It's okay, Mike...Well, at least you guys will understand how our advancement procedures works. My father was in the Army for 20 years...retired about 5 years ago, so I pretty know how the Army works from him.

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Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:59 am

Sorry to talk to you like that, Gocaps16, I didn't know you were active duty, like KROC said, since we were on the topic of the AF I assumed you were talking about that.

I'm in the process of enlisting in the AF right now, I plan to use my college credits and enlist for six years to get E-3 out of tech school, it has been pretty hard to get my recruiter to pay attention to me.
I guess because 2003 was the best retention/recruiting year since the all-volunteer force started in 1973. Apparently he was meeting his goals, he is the only recruiter around here anyways. I hope today things will be better because it is the start of fiscal 04.
Since I'm in the process of becoming an EMT I've been looking at Pararescue, which is critically manned and has a high washout rate. If I do wash out, I would like something mechanical but not too technical, on the flight line near the aircraft such as fuels. I hope that I will be able to attend night classes for a Bsc and CLEP alot. I don't plan on reenlisting, but I will join our ANG unit here in Pittsburgh and seek a KC-135 pilot slot. I know I sound optimistic because there is a lot of variables involved, but I will get there one way or the other.

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RE: Military Experience

Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:07 am

Covert,

No apologies. It's not a problem. Sounds like you got a plan on your life. Once you serve in the military, you will probably continue to like it and maybe perhaps change your mind and re-enlist. When I was in high school 2 years ago, I thought about the same. Serve my 4 years and get out. Now I love my job since I get to repair aircrafts that I love so much and perhaps eventually will get to fly them. I cannot get too much college time here becuase my sea rotation is unscheduled which means I can go on ANY aircraft carrier at any time. Luckily the Navy hasn't screwed me over doing that and just let me assigned to one boat which is pretty cool being based in San Diego. I can fly to and from San Diego quite frequently now for free.

Do you know your exact date when you ship out to basic training or are you still determining your job? Well, I'm impressed and happy for you, and good luck with the Air Force.

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Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:37 am

Actually, Gocaps16, I have not enlisted yet, it's been pretty hard to get in touch with the AF recruiter here, his tour is like a big vacation to him so he doesn't stay in the office and doesn't answer his cell phone. I am currently packing on credits in the Community College here and waiting until next semester to get my EMT certification then it will be ready to roll. Hopefully I can get in the DEP the beginning of next semester to ship out somewhere in the middle of the year.

The only thing I'm worried about now is if I'll be able to finish my degree in six years of military service because I will be 24-25 when I get out and I have to be accepted for pilot training by 28.

How do you fly from San D? Space A? Or does thes navy pay for commercial?

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RE: Military Experience

Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:35 am

Usually I will fly commercial to San Diego from Norfolk, VA and yes, the Navy does pay for everything.

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Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:47 am

Do you live in the barracks when not floating? How is it like for a lower enlisted man? What does one do while in the barracks/dorm for fun? Can you get hassled a lot by NCO's [Navy: PO's]

Sorry for the questions, just interested.

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RE: Military Experience

Thu Oct 02, 2003 12:06 pm

The closest I've ever come to the military is when my cousin's ex-husband gave us a tour of Mirmar back in '90. He's a Top Gun winner, and was a Top Gun instructor back then-don't know if he still is.

I remember telling him I'd give my right arm to go up with him in his Tomcat just once.  Sad
 
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RE: Military Experience

Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:23 am

Alpha, did you actually get the ride from him? I was offered a C-130 ride from the Blue Angels at the airshow here but I couldn't go up since I was working the airshow as sercurity. But I will get more and more offers in times esp. in the Tomcats and perhaps the (Super) Hornets becuase of maintainance.

Salim,

Yes, I do live in the barracks. One advantage of this is that you don't have to commute to/from work. Traffic here going on base at 0500 is a mess. There are plenty things to do on base for single military personnel. MWR host alot of events too such as baseball, hockey games, fishing, rifling, horseback activities, free movie days with free food, bowling alleys, baseball fields, football fields, state of the art gyms, you name it. I live in a co-ed barracks but all the females are mostly in the 3rd floor and a few are in the 2nd floor, but for males, we have a curfew at 2200 and we're not allowed to pass the line to "Female Country." It's alot same as college but these rooms I'm in are like hotel rooms...TV, phones, internet connection, bathtub, bathroom, microwave, two beds, furniture, closets..very nice compare to many college dormitories and it's free.

Alot of NCO esp E-5s likes to hassle new members. I've had that alot because im the youngest guy in my workcenter at 19. But alot of E-5s in my shop are mainly dumb and they hate me because of my smart comments I like to give them. They can't do anything like write me up becuase I actually work and I have never gotten in trouble. But my floor supervisors, leading PO are really cool and never had a problem with them. I'm in currently talking with my chain of command and my career couselour about the officer programme called Seamen to Admiral STA-21 programme. And guess what....I'm the ONLY one in my workcenter interested about the programme and my LPO is helping me out.

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RE: Military Experience

Fri Oct 03, 2003 5:35 am

Interesting Kevin, they said that the Air Force has the best rooms out of all the services, and the Navy doesn't sound bad at all....

As for that Seaman to Admiral program, I have heard of it, but I have also heard it is more difficult to get a commission as an enlisted man. They say your military record has to be squeaky clean whereas if you just come off the street or take ROTC it is easier to get in, hmmm.


My friend was at Pearl Harbour as a radar operator and he said when they came to dock he only had to clean his area every morning which took like 10 minutes and then he got lost. Maybe sometimes they made him stand watch.

Good luck with that commission, i appreciate you answering my few questions.

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RE: Military Experience

Fri Oct 03, 2003 1:52 pm

I am still pissed that the Airforce Weather detachment got extra money for staying in our barracks because they where "Below Standard"

Us Army guys got squat.

Actually what is funny is that on the wall of the barracks that I used to be in, in German, when I was in there was a picture of it when it was newly built. Looked about the same as it does today, except the trees where smaller, there was a Kubelwagon parked in front and two guards packing Mauser rifles and swatizkas on their armbands guarding it.
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