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Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:25 am

It is official: Denmark's Crown Prince Frederik - heir to the throne of Europe's oldest ruling monarchy - will marry Australian commoner Mary Donaldson next May.

The royal wedding is set to take place at Copenhagen's Lutheran cathedral on May 14.

The formal declaration of the royal engagement has ended two years of speculation, prompting thousands of Danes, waving Danish and Australian flags, to throng a square at the royal palace to catch a glimpse of the couple.

Australian Broadcasting Corporation: http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s962854.htm

What a glorious day it must have been. I hope this brings The Kindom of Denmark and The Commonwealth of Australia closer together.



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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:03 am

Not out of spite, but honestly, who really cares about this sort of thing any more?

Didnt they get their fill after that dumbass Diana died? What is the incentive in perpetuating a rather futile tradition centered around even more worthless people?
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:27 am

Not out of spite, but honestly, who really cares about this sort of thing any more?

I see your point, but thousands of people seem to care. Those that stood outside the palace in Copenhagen do.

didn't they get their fill after that dumbass Diana died? What is the incentive in perpetuating a rather futile tradition centered around even more worthless people?

Well, I think you go a bit too far in labeling Diana a "Dumbass" - she did use her position well to help the needy.

And the incentive? It's a form of government which many people believe to be stable, and a symbol of national pride. I guess you can liken it to the inauguration of The President of the United States amid much fanfare on the steps of the Capital.

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P.S: I put the picture of the Australia flag up on my original post. It was there when I looked at the post a little while ago. Has it been removed? If so - why?
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:39 am

To clarify, I'm speaking more in terms of the figurehead/ceremonial monarchies which continue to exist


Your flag emblem is still there

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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:42 am

Well written Qantas forever
It has also done something for the State of Tasmania which is the State where she is from in Australia. The Danish Royal Family placed a wine order at one of the Tasmanian wineries for A$160,000.00. That is great support for the Boutique wine industry in Tasmania.
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:28 pm

The Danes very much care about their Royal Family. There is a lot of genuine affection for them by the people, and each time I've been in CPH, I must admit it's a nice thing. I especially enjoy the Christmas gathering of the people in the palace square (Copenhagen at Christmas is a beautiful sight), who gather to see the R Family as they appear on the balcony. Living for so long in North America, I must admit it is quite a unique experience, and an enjoyable one at that.
 
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:08 am

I think the Scandinavian royals are far more modern than the British royals. Just take the example of Prince Hakoon, he was allowed to marry a girl from the streets, who already had a son. And on his first day in school, Mette-Marrit, Hakoon and the father of the child walked together to the school. I think the British royals are way too oldfashioned, but I don't see anything bad in a modern royal family like in the Netherlands or in the scandinavian countries.
 
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:48 am

Copenhagen was one big party yesterday.

There are of course a lot of people around the world who thinks that Kings are oldfashioned. But then I think that it is because they compare a King to a president, ignoring that a King has a very different role in the society. Especially when looking at politically "strong" presidents like in France and the US.

You must also understand that this country, Denmark, is sort of ferrytale country. Is was natural that Hans Christian Andersen was Danish.

That said, there is no proof that republics have been more successful than kingdoms. On the other hand for instance Spain never experienced progress as since she got her King back. Japan rose from the ashes to one of the strongest economies since their Emperor changed status from "god" to Emperor. And things didn't start to go really bad in Russia until they killed their Zar.

Also when looking at Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Britain, they all have their faults, but they are all among the more successful countries on the world scale.

Denmark has been very fortunate that we have had one uninterrupted string of very bright Kings and Queens, at least since King Frederik VII, who started in office as sort of dictator, but gave us in 1848 the democratic constitution which with very minor amendments (such as voting power also to women) works perfectly well today.

I am pretty sure that our Crown Prince, who some day will take over as King Frederik X, will be no exception from the rule. And should that happen, then we can always blame it on the Americans because he studied international relations and law at the best US universities.

Yesterday we learned that our new Tasmanian Crown Princess is equally bright. And that she is so beautiful that she would fit right into a ferrytale by Hans Christian Andersen, which is really no disadvantage either.

BTW, a few years back a poll was arranged just for fun, if Denmark should become a republic, whom would you vote for as president? The result was that our present Queen Margrethe II would win hands down. There would be no need for a Florida style vote count.

You guessed it, yes, I am a royalist, just like roughly 90% of all Danes.
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:09 am

Prebennorholm,

I gotta say - I love your posts. They always bring a smile to my face.

Without wanting to get into a Monarchy vs Republic debate - it's important that we look at each country's administration individually. For some countries a Republic is the way to go due to the psyche and will of the people. For others it may be a Monarchy or ideed a dictatorship. Personally, I believe that Australia should be a Republic. But that's not to say that I think all nations should be as well.

With respect Prebennorholm, although I agree that the Monarchy has been invaluable in the restoration of Spain, I'm not so sure that the changing role of the Japanese Emperor has had any major impact on their economy. And I think the Czar's death in Russia was more a symptom of wider social problems.

I believe that a nation draws it's intellectual, artistic, and economic power from it's people. One must ask if the Danish Monarchy would be as sucessful as it is without the support of the commoners? That said - your royal family is incredibly unique in that it is modern, down-to-earth, and representative of the vibrancy of your nation. I hope that Mary will contribute to this also.

As I've said before on many occasions, I hope this union will bring Denmark and Australia closer together than ever before. In fact, I've heard that Denmark recently bought approx. A$1.5million worth of Tasmanian wine. And with the re-opening of the Australian embassy in Copenhagen, I think we have a lot to look forward to.

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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:37 am

Her Danish was far from perfect and she spoke slowly, but I think she´ll be
a good future Queen.
ConcordeBoy, many people in Europe still likes their royals, believe it or not.
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:14 pm

Her Danish was far from perfect and she spoke slowly, but I think she´ll be
a good future Queen.


Hey, it took a couple of generations before the British royals gave up speaking Norman French; and Britain imported countless German-speaking royals after that.

Oh, and the current Duke of Edinburgh has ancestors in the Danish and Russian royal families, doesn't he...?

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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:09 pm

Well, our Queen Silvia took a long time to learn to speak decent Swedish,
She´s German-Brazilian and the King got a German mother and French ancestors...
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Sat Oct 11, 2003 9:16 am

well...Maybe Australia and Denmark will be combined into one nation.
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:10 pm

FlyboyOz -

Hahaha - not a bad idea. Make Denmark know how Greenland has felt for a long long time.

Kidding, of course.

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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:23 am

Australia united with Denmark the same way as Greenland?

I wonder how much difference it would make in Australia if they recognize Queen Margrethe II instead of Elizabeth II.

But it would mean a lot to me if my tax money had to be spent on subsidizing all Australians the same way as we support Greenlanders. That would be just under 500 billion A$/year (since there are roughly 500 times more Australians).

That would ruin my budget since it exceeds the Danish GNP. Every individual Dane would pay roughly A$100,000 to Australia each year.

My suggestion would be that we just keep good relationships and the embassy in Canberra in good order. One important advantage is that I won't starve to death.
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RE: Danish Royal Couple Go Public

Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:33 am

About the embassy in Canberra, we even share it with our nordic neighbours. I think they had their busiest day when my high school class stopped by in 2000 to vote on the Euro referendum Big grin

I was very sad to hear the news when our Queen Mother, Ingrid, died same year. She was buried in Roskilde Cathedral, the burial place for all members of the Royal Family dating VERY far back. I would have loved to be out on the streets that day to pay my respects, especially since it was my hometown she was buried in. We did, though, managed to get the local University to lower the Danish flag to half for the day.

As for Mary's Danish speech, it is very good considering that she's only been learning it intensively for around a month. Just ask Colin Abbott about how hard it is  Laugh out loud

I think that Copenhagen is going to be mayhem on May 14 - and being a proud royalist, I'm naturally going to be inthere somewhere from early morning. I spend the entire day in front of the TV when the younger Prince was married to Princess Alexandra Christina Manley, who came from Hong Kong, and spent most of the day in front of the TV when each of their two sons were baptized.

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