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Kill Bill

Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:06 pm

...opened in the UK last night, and like many other devoted Tarantino fans, I went to see it. The movie...was very very cool.

It's bound to be compared to Pulp Fiction, and I don't think there's a contest. Pulp Fiction is the better movie. Pulp Fiction was the movie that defined the 90s, and is arguably the best movie of all time. Kill Bill is just Quentin Tarantino indulging himself - making a movie he wants to make and basing it on the old speghetti westerns and the 70s B movies that he so obviously loves.

We just need to wait a while for Volume 2 now...
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RE: Kill Bill

Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:15 pm

I am glad to hear that it is a good movie, I think I will watch it tomorrow night because I am a very big Tarantino fan who must see it.

Pulp Fiction was the best movie ever, I am sure that Tarantino can't beat that.

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RE: Kill Bill

Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:16 pm

Pulp Fiction was the best movie ever, I am sure that Tarantino can't beat that.

He can't. Kill Bill doesn't have the Roger Avery-enhanced gorgeous dialogue that made it a great film. Kill Bill is still pretty awesome though.
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RE: Kill Bill

Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:19 pm

I also heard that the soundtrack of Kill Bill is pretty good (like the soundtrack of all Tarantino movies).

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RE: Kill Bill

Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:22 pm

Yup it is. The music really makes this movie. Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs had good music - this movie has great music. The Matrix-style fight scenes are set apart from the Matrix mainly by the music.
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RE: Kill Bill

Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:26 pm


When you´re talking about the best movie ever:
Four days ago, I saw what turned out to be the worst movie ever: "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" - bad effects, worse actors and no plot at all. Connery was acting like he didn´t give a damn about anything...

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RE: Kill Bill

Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:28 pm

Great, I am looking forward to it! From dusk till dawn had also a very good soundtrack in my opinion, but as you already wrote, Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs had also a pretty good one.

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RE: Kill Bill

Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:47 pm

Bang bang, that awful sond.
Bang bang, I hit the ground.
Bang, bang, my baby show me down...

Woo hoo, woo hoo hoo!
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:39 am

I love the OTTness of whenever someone got a body part chopped off. Reminded me of the Black Night scene in "Monty Phyton and The Holy Grail". Fountains of blood spraying everywhere. I have to say I like "Kill Bill" more than "Pulp Fiction". "Pulp Fiction" is a great movie, don't get me wrong, but "Kill Bill" makes it look like an Afterschool Special.
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:14 am

loved the movie, was just what tarantino promised, a movie with constant action and breathtaking fighting scenes. i think its not compareable to other movies outside the action genre, since generally action and martial arts movies have just the action in mind, and usually fail trying to be "more" then that. hero comes to my mind, a nice plot etc but the overdone colors etc that got old after the first time really just try to force something that isnt there.
and since kill bill doesnt try to be anything else then an action movie its one of the best movies of the genre that has been made so far.
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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:56 am

Pulp Fiction... and is arguably the best movie of all time

I doubt many film critics (paid to be such or otherwise) would have Pulp Fiction even in their top 25.
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:08 am

Well then give me your top 25 movies of all time...
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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:09 am

...........too much blood...I give it a B-


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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:16 am

The violence in Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs was moderated and generally off screen. In Kill Bill it wasn't. If critics didn't like Pulp Fiction because of the gore, they'll hate this. Then again, I don't think the gore is a down side. The over the top blood was funny, and added to the 70s B movie feel.
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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:18 am

Flyboy36y - You are so damn right. That song at the beginning had me absolutely sold.

I thought that this story was brilliant in that it told a very simple story about human motivations and revenge. It was a really post-modern piece (No name for the lead character) - and the stylistic use of Genre, colour, black and white, a mix of asian and western (and country lol) influences I believe added to the overall universal applicability of the piece.

Brilliant films - cannot wait for Volume 2. * * * * *

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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:57 am

a pretty good list of good movies are on imdb. even though i disagree with some things on there they represent the popular opinion pretty good i think.
just to add that to the discussion of good movies  Smile

heres a part of their top250 list:
Rank Title
1 Godfather, The (1972) 9.0/10 (79614 votes)
2 Shawshank Redemption, The (1994) 8.9/10 (100294 votes)
3 Godfather: Part II, The (1974) 8.8/10 (45873 votes)
4 Schindler's List (1993) 8.7/10 (69537 votes)
5 Casablanca (1942) 8.7/10 (46976 votes)
6 Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The (2001) 8.7/10 (104121 votes)
7 Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The (2002) 8.7/10 (56943 votes)
8 Citizen Kane (1941) 8.7/10 (44019 votes)
9 Shichinin no samurai (1954) 8.7/10 (19195 votes)
10 Star Wars (1977) 8.7/10 (100275 votes)
http://www.imdb.com/top_250_films
10=2
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:59 am

Hey - they didn't include my favourite: "Sexy Beast"

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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:18 am

I refuse to see Kill Bill due to Luci Liu and Japanese Anime.

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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:45 pm

I think Lucy Liu is a pretty GOOD reason to see it, imho.
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RE: Kill Bill

Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:44 am

NO PLOT..UNREAL FIGHT SCENES, GRATUITIOUS GORE....THE WORST MOVIE I HAVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME.
KEPT FALLING ASLEEP AS WELL.
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RE: Kill Bill

Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:14 am

I doubt if I'll bother, QT is a great filmmaker but I've never been a martial arts movie fan.
Reservoir Dogs was a (derivative) blast.
Pulp Fiction was superb.
Jackie Brown I think is his best all round one, mature with decent characterisation, good to see big stars playing down at heel types like DeNiro did, I think it's his underrated best effort.
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:42 am

The movie was ok. I liked the music though. Oh and all of that blood. That I thought was over done. The anime was cool.
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:21 am

Kill Bill is disgusting (not that I've seen it, only read about it). I refuse to watch such crap from Hollywood.

Kids In Mind's description of the violence:

A woman bites a man's lip (or tongue, it's not clear) and pulls, he screams and falls onto the floor motionless, his face and chest are covered with blood, and she is covered with blood. We hear panting and moaning, pan onto a woman with a very bloody and bruised face and see her shot in the head. A woman cuts a woman's arm off: blood sprays and pours and the woman flails and screams. A woman throws a knife and it hits a man in the Achilles tendon, he falls to the floor, the woman slams his head in a door repeatedly (we hear crunching of bone and see his legs twitching). A man's head is lopped off by a sword, blood sprays and pours from his neck, the assailant holds the severed head in the air and then drops it on a table. A woman is surrounded by people with swords and a fight begins: she slashes and slices, one man's eye is pulled out, an arm is cut off, a man is hit in the chest with a hatchet, another hit in the head with a hatchet, we hear slashing and squishing, a man's head is cut off, a man is sliced across the mouth (blood sprays and pours and gushes), another man's arm is sliced off, and a man's leg is sliced off. A woman fights off many people with swords leaving many without limbs (there is a lot of blood pouring, spurting, spraying and gushing). Two women fight with swords; one is slashed on the back, she moans and bleeds, a woman is slashed on the leg, they both slash back and forth, blood sprays and we see a scalp with hair fly through the air and then one woman falls to the ground dead and we see her exposed brain. A man and a woman fight on a balcony railing: the man's legs are cut off and he falls into a pool of water below (the water turns red from blood). A young woman swings a bladed ball on a chain and hits a wall, it hits a woman in the chest twice (we see blood in her mouth), and it hits a woman on the shoulder (she is cut); the ball also hits a woman in the back of the head, the chain wraps around her neck and she begins choking. A woman is stabbed in the foot by a board with nails and then in the head (her eyes bleed). Blood pours from a woman's mouth and she screams. A woman fights many in a darkened room (we see the proceedings in silhouette and hear gurgling and cries). A woman is shot at. A woman kills another woman by throwing a knife to her chest; she falls to the floor dead, and the first woman pulls the knife out of her chest and wipes the blood off (a young girl was watching). We hear about a woman's family being killed by a Yakuza boss and we see the scenario played out in an animated sequence: People fight, we hear squishing sounds from knives slashing, blood sprays and pours from a man's back and chest, he falls to the floor in front of a small girl who is watching under a bed, we see a sword slammed into the back of his head and watch his eyes close as he dies; the little girl whimpers, a woman is thrown onto a bed, a man brings a sword down, we see it poke through the mattress near a girl's head, the mattress becomes soaked with blood and a drop falls on the girl's face. The room is then set on fire. Another animated sequence shows a girl (she's 11 years old) straddling a man and stabbing him in the stomach (he spits blood and she pulls out the sword): the room is then showered with blood, two men shoot at the girl, she shoots one man's leg off, then his head, then the other man's leg is shot off and then his head, and a man is shot from a distance and blood sprays and leaves a hole in his head. A woman stabs a man in the crotch, we hear a squishing sound and see blood spray when she pulls her sword out. We see a woman being beaten by several people. Several people lie dead on the floor surrounded by puddles of blood and covered with blood after having been shot. A woman is punched in the face and sails back through the air (we see many bruises on her face and blood). Two women fight with punches kicks and knives: one hits the other on the leg with a stick, they throw each other around a room breaking glass and furniture, one is held in a chokehold, one is hit with a fireplace poker, and they fight with a knife and a frying pan (we see them both with blood and bruises on their faces). A wounded woman is rolled down a hill. A woman throws a dagger that passes near another woman's face and goes into a wall. Two men argue, and one squeezes the other's hand. A woman who was pregnant wakes up from a coma and screams in grief when she realizes she has lost her baby. A man leans over a presumably dead body that spits blood on his face. A young man is spanked on the buttocks with a sword. A pregnant woman lying motionless on the floor is surrounded by blood after having been shot. We see an extreme close-up of a mosquito landing on a person's skin, we see it poke its proboscis into the skin and hear it sucking and slurping. A woman threatens to kill a woman's husband, her daughter and her. A woman threatens to cut pieces off another woman's body. A man punches an ashtray, it breaks and it cuts his hand. A man throws a baseball at a woman and she cuts it in half with a sword. A woman falls to the floor unable to walk after waking up from a coma.
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:14 pm

Saw it today, pretty good movie I thought. Cant wait for part 2 in Feb of 04!
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:44 pm

Kill Bill is not the kind of movie you're going to walk in to, not knowing what it's about. It says it in the title -- KILL. So don't give me any "it's so bloody and disgusting" stuff. You either want to see that, or you don't.

I don't, but I'm not going to judge the movie by someone else's review, either.
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RE: Kill Bill

Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:43 pm

MD-90: Kill Bill is disgusting (not that I've seen it, only read about it

Then I suggest you actually see the movie and view the violence you refer to in it's context before you go slagging off about a brilliant film you are yet to see!!

Go and see it then come back and talk about the film - don't jump to conclusions.

Once you do that then perhaps any further criticism you make of the piece will warrant the attention of others.

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RE: Kill Bill

Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:04 am

Kids In Mind's description of the violence

Are you serious????
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Tue Oct 21, 2003 2:39 am

Kill Bill is disgusting (not that I've seen it, only read about it)

One of the stupidest things ever written here?
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RE: Kill Bill

Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:33 am

That's not exactly a review, Redngold, more like simply pointing out all of the violence and gore.

So, 777, you want to insinuate that my post was stupid and meaningless and yet not say anything of substance? Some post.

Another animated sequence shows a girl (she's 11 years old) straddling a man and stabbing him in the stomach (he spits blood and she pulls out the sword): the room is then showered with blood, two men shoot at the girl, she shoots one man's leg off, then his head, then the other man's leg is shot off and then his head, and a man is shot from a distance and blood sprays and leaves a hole in his head. Even if it's anime and not real humans why would anyone want to see that?

A woman stabs a man in the crotch, we hear a squishing sound and see blood spray when she pulls her sword out

A woman fights off many people with swords leaving many without limbs (there is a lot of blood pouring, spurting, spraying and gushing).

A woman bites a man's lip (or tongue, it's not clear) and pulls, he screams and falls onto the floor motionless, his face and chest are covered with blood, and she is covered with blood.





Yeah, lots of real quality entertainment there.
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:09 am

To each their own MD-90. Let us know when you move up from watching PG-13 movies.

 
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RE: Kill Bill

Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:40 am

No offense, but if I choose not to wallow in Hollywood's filth, frankly I'm happier.
 
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RE: Kill Bill

Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:42 am

Yeah, lots of real quality entertainment there.

Well...yeah actually. To each his own. It was a good movie. I'm going to hell for enjoying it, right?

I just don't see how you make these comments based on the fact that YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT!
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RE: Kill Bill

Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:52 am

MD-90, you'll find much greater happiness when you cease trying to shove your morality down the throats of everyone sharing the world with you. If you don't like violence, you don't have to watch it. Those of us who enjoy filmmaking of Tarantino's variety, on the other hand, will continue to do so. If you derive abject horror from the crop of film Hollywood produces, you're more than welcome to make your own happy-world, lovey-dovey movies devoid of any immoral drivel.
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RE: Kill Bill

Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:11 am

MD-90,

I'm starting to think that because you can't accept violence in a satirical context, perhaps you shouldn't see this movie.

It would be completely lost on you. Heck, you haven't even seen it yet and it's lost on you.

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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:35 am

I just saw it last night, and I was very, very dissapointed. For one, nothing is explained in the movie. All you know is there's some woman out to get revenge, and that she kills a lot of people in the way. The fight scenes were WAAAAYYY too drawn out for my taste, and I felt like the end was a ripoff just to get me to spend another eight dollars to go see a sequel. The over the top blood was kind of funny, but the fight scenes just got old fast.

The saving grace this movie had was its music, and its humor. Some things were just hilarious, and I got a real kick out of them. "Do you understand?"  Laugh out loud
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RE: Kill Bill

Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:39 am

The blood and guts didn't really disturb me, though I thought the decapitation during the crime boss meeting was suprising but cool, not that I'd ever have a reason to practice it though. Overall, a pretty good movie, except how'd that lawyer who got her arm cut off survive so long?
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