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Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 2:54 am

Going along with the music threads-Who is the best bassist?

I have to go with Les Claypool of Primus. He is freaking awesome. He tried out for Metallica after Cliff died, but they rejected him because he was "too good." That says something
Who else?
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:05 am

These threads always bring up a strange question for me. What is best ?, sure there are plenty of flash players, but it doesnt really make them best, just that they are flash. For example Mark King from level 42, Flea from the RHCP, Les Claypool, Steve Harris from Iron Maiden, and then probably the king of this group should be, will be, is... Geddy Lee from Rush. However, there are plenty of non flash bass players out there that could musically kick the pants off some of these guys, but their music doesn't require slap pop every beat to the bar (not that I equate that to the above). Some of the non flash greats include Pino Paledino, Sting, Leland Sklar and the absolutely incredible Jimmie Johnson who plays with James Taylor. Geddy Lee while in the original group because of his style is the total consumate musician and really should be in the latter group.

Most of this latter group are seasoned musicians who have toured the world while the rest were in diapers and just have a better understanding and feel of music than many in the original group.
 
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:07 am

I don't know much about bassists, so i'm slightly biased...

Obviously for me its Steve Harris, not just because of his great basslines for Maiden, but also his songwriting ability. Honourable mention for John Myung...etc
 
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:16 am

Yes, gotta be Steve Harris. A bass player so good he seems he seems more like a 2nd rythm guitar as it is a major musical voice and not just some background deep thudding that keeps proper time. His prolific songwriting just adds exponentially to his value to Maiden.

I hear that "galloping" rythm and know instantly just who it is.
 
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:19 am

1. Les Claypool - Primus
2. Steve Harris - Iron Maiden
3. Billy Sheehan - ex. Mr. Big
4. Flea - Red Hot Chili Peppers
5. Geddy Lee - Rush
 
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:24 am

Mike Rutherford - Genesis
 
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 4:23 am

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned John Entwistle. After all, he did win the poll of greatest bass player of all time in Bass Guitar magazine recently.

His style was pretty unique, he carried the tune, and the electric guitar the rhythm.
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 5:06 am

I'm surprised no-one's mentioned Mick Karn, of the band Japan and his many solo albums (seven I think). He's also played for Kate Bush, Gary Numan, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan et al. He's got another album called More Better Different coming out next year. If you're into bass players, you've got to get into this guy.

Mick Karn would be my number two; but the best all-time bass player on the planet was Bernard Edwards of Chic. No one will ever come close to Bernie. Superfly?

(I would also agree with Geddy Lee; but not Flea - there's fast players and great players, but the two aren't necessarily the same thing.)
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 5:12 am

Tim Reynolds, He tours all the time with Dave Matthews Band.

He is awesome.
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 5:18 am

Flea would be in my top five. Dave Weckel is alright too.

1. Claypool
2. Flea
3. Weckel
4. Geddy Lee
5. Ryan from Mudvayne
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 5:27 am

I'll throw Michael Anthony in the ring for my guess.
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 5:51 am

Victor Wooten from Bella and the Flecktones as well as his solo stuff.

John Paul Jones, from the legendary Led Zeppelin. He also did all their string arrangements which also kick ass.

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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 5:57 am

Michael Anthony (Van Halen)
Geddy Lee (Rush)
Billy Sheehan (David Lee Roth backup band, Mr. Big)
John Paul Jones (Led Zeppelin)
 
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:22 am

Far as I'm concerned, the best bassist that walks the face of the earth is Victor Wooten of Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, as well as by himself. I was fortunate enough to see him play a clinic at my college and a concert afterwards, I've never seen anyone play an instrument like that. Possibly the best man on the instrument ever was the great Jaco Pastorius. There are others of course: I have great respect for Flea, Tim Reynolds, Geddy Lee, Les Claypool, etc. But for sheer technical skill, it has to be Jaco.
As for Metallica, Cliff Burton was a great bassist, but after rejecting Les Claypool (who has a very, very distinctive style that you can either love or hate) they settled on Jason Newsted, who really isnt that great from a technical standpoint. And replaced him with Rob Trujillo.
 
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:28 am

John Entwistle of The Who.
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:42 am

David Ellefson, Megadeth gets my vote...
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:27 am

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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:39 am

I am surprised that no one has said Jason Newsted. He is my pick.
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:01 pm

John Entwistle - The Bass of Doom. His bass solos just left you with your mouth hanging open, and the funny thing was how he looked almost bored while his bass was putting out all these incredible runs at high speed. The Buzzard bass he designed is awesome as well.




Then comes Stu Hamm. Without question the most techically proficient of all bass players (although he doesn't have the raw GUTS of Entwistle.) Listen to Stu's bass solo on Joe Satriani's Live in San Fransisco Album.


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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:17 pm

Geezer Butler - BLACK SABBATH

Geezer has some of the hardest riffs in all of rock n' roll and heavy metal!

Some other greats:

Ray Manzarek - THE DOORS (keyboard bass)
Cliff Williams - AC/DC


Another good one is Michael Anthony - VAN HALEN
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Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:21 pm

Tony Kanal - No Doubt
 
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:49 pm

Most of the above are really great, but we can't have a thread like this without someone mentioning Nathan East.

The most influencial on my playing however were John Entwistle and Steve Harris.
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Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:51 am

I've seen Marcus Miller recently, I was breathless. He's incredible ! And he plays soprano sax too.


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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:38 pm

1. Geddy Lee
2. Les Claypool
3. Michael Anthony
4. Jason Newsted (no, not a joke..he was brilliant even way back when in Flotsam and Jetsam)
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Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:52 pm

Marcus Miller plays sax, trumpet, keyboards, and I don't know how many more instruments. I went to a concert of Marcus Miller band some time ago, and It has to be the best concert I've been...

for me, Jaco Pastorius-Marcus Miller-Stanley Clarck
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Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:37 pm

Mighluss: Amen to that, except for one change...for me it's:

Jaco Pastorius, Marcus Miller and Renaud Garcia-Fons.
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Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:25 pm

He's not rock, but Im going to have to put Charlie Mingus into the mix here.

Man was trained as a classical cellist, then switches to double bass and jazz, and becomes a legend. NO ONE can touch that man
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:05 pm

btw:

Can someone enlighten me about Dave Weckel...where does he play???

I do know super drummer Dave Weckel, really good, but definitely not a bass player!

Right I second that...Tony Levin and of course, the brilliant, sexy, highly delectable Rhonda Smith *APPLAUSE*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


...that's the bass player of Prince, and it takes a lot of brilliance to play with this guy, that much is certain!!

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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:23 pm

Dave Weckel? Dave Weckl (without the second 'e') is a wellknown drummer, not a bassist ..?

What about adding Tony Levin and maybe Gail Ann Dorsey to the list?
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Tue Oct 28, 2003 12:47 am

Andreas,

Dave Weckl plays in:

Chick Korea & Electrik Band (Beneath the Mask)
Chick Korea & Acoustic Band

This is what I know from him, but he has plenty of Albums of his own, and surely plays in a lot bands... I had the luck to be in a concert of Electrik Band this summer, and it was incredible...

P.D. I've never heard about Renaud Garcia-Fons... where does he play?

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Tue Oct 28, 2003 1:24 am

Miquel!

Thanks for clarifying, so it was the well-known drummer Dave Weckl, that was mentioned...someone further up said there's a bass player called Dave Weckl, and I didn't really believe it.

Now to Garcia-Fons: He's basically a solo and project artist, playing acoustic bass, probably the best bass player of France.

He did several brilliant albums that could be described as ethnic-jazz, if that tells you something, using only acoustic instruments, mixing jazz, mediterranean and Arabian ethno sounds, French chanson-like melodies and Argentinan tango a la Piazzolla or Galliano...very exciting music, probably not for most guys here, but good nonetheless, especially if you can listen on a high-class hifi system, plus a good glass of Rioja...that's about it Big grin ..and it sounds like there are 3 bass players at work sometimes, absolutely incredible.
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:06 am

Come on kids, it's GEDDY LEE.




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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:52 am

Somehow, I think Geddy Lee's sound took a big turn for the worse when he turned away from Rickenbacker basses.

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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:00 am

Cfalk:
Maybe.
I think Geddy Lee really made the Steinberger and Wal sound really good. I am not too crazy about those basses. He has been using his Feder Jazz that he picked up at a pawn shop for $150 in 1980. He used it occasionally on Moving Pictures but permanetly started using it on Conterparts and onward.
I still like the Rickenbacker the best.
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:13 am

Back to John Entwistle - he had the ultimate bass sounds Alembic in the 70's and early 80's (which sounded great but apparently were a maintainance nightmare),



and the Status Buzzard which he designed in the late 80's and used until he passed away.



Talk about a powerful sound - due also to his amp and effects stack, known as "the Tower of Doom" I can't seem the find the picture I saw of it...

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Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:15 am

...and to think I could have saw him 3 weeks before he died.  Sad
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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:04 am

My vote goes to John Paul Jones. But there are a lot of other bassists that I enjoy.

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RE: Best Bassist Of All Time

Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:50 pm

Superfly, near enough - his name is Pino Palladino.  Big grin A very good bassist in his own right, and, despite the name, he's Welsh. For an indication of Entwistle style of play,a song to listen to is The Real Me, from Quadrophenia. The electric guitar plays solely chords throughout, and the bass does all the work. The story goes that Entwistle was messing about, showing off really, and was a bit surprised to find that it had been taped. It isn't his most technically demanding piece (though hard enough, certainly WASP couldn't fully replicate it on their cover version), but it does show his style perfectly. Townshend has commented on the early days when people would come up to him to ask how he got the sound he did with so little effort, they didn't realise it was the bass.

Another song, one of his own compositions to listen to is Trick of the Light, when his twelve string bass completely eliminated the need for any other guitar, with the electric confined to a couple of notes here and there.
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Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:04 am

Another great bassist is Verdine White of Earth Wind & Fire.
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