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IDS Goes: 90 To 75.

Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:03 am

That's about it so far. He's lost, statement shortly.
 
bigphilnyc
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RE: IDS Goes: 90 To 75.

Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:25 am

Phil Derner Jr.
 
GDB
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RE: IDS Goes: 90 To 75.

Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:35 am

Politics in the 4th largest economy in the World bigphil.
Nothing of any importance.
So it's true, IDS apart from being Ian Duncan-Smith's initials, also meant, as Tory MPs said right from the start, In Deep Shit.
 
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RE: IDS Goes: 90 To 75.

Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:36 am

It's a shame to see him go, honest decent bloke (in stark contrast to Tony Blair) and I felt he was a good leader.

But the majoy thing now is for us Tory's to get behind the new leader and let him/her stay longer than a couple of days!

Now, I would like to see Liam Fox as Leader, if not Liam then Michael Howard. David Davies, Tim Yeo etc no thanks...but Il get behind who ever is elected although being a member of the party I know who I will vote for

Ben Pritchard
 
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RE: IDS Goes: 90 To 75.

Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:42 am

Politics in the 4th largest economy in the World

According to the CIA World factbook, UK is the 7th largest economy in the world in terms of GDP, behind the USA, China, Japan, India, Germany and France.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory.
 
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RE: IDS Goes: 90 To 75.

Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:07 am

OK, be pedantic, anyway, it depends how you measure it, I'm sure most of the rural poor of China and India really think they are in a prosperous 1st world nation!

As for IDS being decent, he had a reputation as ill-tempered, arrogant, hopeless at running even Tory Central Office, let alone the country.
It sounds very cruel, but the stark reality for the Tories is really that most of their membership needs to somehow advance a few years and drop down dead.
Only then, or if MPs again get to decide who's leader, they'll stop picking someone who conforms to their own narrow minded view of the world, and sod what the electorate think.

Many Labour people had to bite their lips and elect Blair after all.

For all it's flaws, this current government is way less arrogant and unchecked than Thatcher was at her peak, some people have very short memories, but I don't think the average voter has, after all, for all the government's troubles this year, no one seriously thinks they'll lose next time.
What a comment on the Tories that is.

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