lehpron
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Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:46 pm

Looking at the Dell.com website I think the cheapest system with a 3Ghz chip and a 1 Gig ram is US$1860 w/ 17" flatpanel, is this gamer compatible?

Or more broadly, would a slow chip and high RAM work just as well as a fast chip with limited RAM?

Based on trends, in 2 years I should be able to get an 8Ghz desktop cheap, the question is what kind of RAM becomes appropriate to run anything from extreme 3D games to a drafting program to a sim?
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:57 pm

answer c) none of the above.
The main factor for a gaming PC is the GRAPHICS CARD.
Look for stand-alone AGP cards that have built-in RAM and not integrated graphics.
64MB is a minimum, 128 not so bad and with 256 you're cooking.
RAM wise, look for the faster DDR-SDRAM rather than "normal" SDRAM, again, 256MB is a minimum, 512MB average and gets cookin' with 1GB.
Processor speed in secondary, nowadays eben the slowest Celeron is above 2GHz.
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:32 pm

You can play great games with an average cpu, a moderate RAM, and a cheap graphic card. (for example Athlon XP 2000+, 512 Mo, Radeon 9000 if it still exists). This config. is still much more powerful than the best config you could have had 2 or 3 years ago.

Of course if you're a FPS-fanatic that's another story, but many Frame per second doesn't mean more fun, just more money out of your wallet.
 
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:04 pm

ram is very important. but do not be fooled, cpu processing power is more important. Look at it that way: choosing which one will get a similar percentage increase, the cpu is far more important.

I tried both. Finally, more important than all of this is the graphics card.
 
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or

Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:09 pm

The correct answer is: both.

You need a system that fits, a super-duper CPU can do nothing without enough RAM and a proper graphics card.
 
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:49 am

It depends on what type of operations you're doing. For FPS and similar games, graphics card is the biggest bottleneck. For games such as SimCity4, RAM is the bottleneck. With today's CPUs being 3Ghz and above, you don't really need to worry about the CPU for games.

Where you need CPU power is for computationally intense chores, which games usually do not have. CAD tools often use a lot of CPU, especially for auto-routing and similar tasks.
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:01 am

If you're going to be playing a FPS like Delta Force: Blackhawk Down or Medal of Honor Allied Assault and its expansions, then a flat panel monitor isn't the best choice. Having played FPS games on both flat screen and flat panel I've found that flat panel just doesn't seem to refresh fast enough for some games. When I had to get a new monitor after mine went up in smoke, I purchased a 19 inch flat screen monitor for a lot less than even a 15 inch flat panel.

But as everyone else has said, for a FPS game, the video card is the most important issue with RAM right behind it. For SimCity4, even 1gb of DDR RAM is barely enough. The game is really memory demanding or it has a memory leak somewhere.
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or

Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:41 am

You can get the Radeon 9700 video card for around $400. A FANTASTIC card for the money! I loooooove setting all the sliders for maximum detail.
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:43 am

What is an FPS, frame per second? Would an RPG game work like a FPS game?
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:54 am

FPS = Frames Per Second and First Person Shooter
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:46 am

Go with UTA and B757...flat panels suck for gaming as they have a tendancy to "smear" the image during movement....

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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Fri Nov 14, 2003 11:04 am

You can get the Radeon 9700 video card for around $400

9700 Pro is about $250. Check out pricewatch.com
 
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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:03 pm

RAM is important-- up to a point, considering you have an adequate cpu, after which the graphics card kicks in. How much memory the graphics adapter has is also a factor in how hard you can game.

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RE: Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU

Fri Nov 14, 2003 8:37 pm

...so true, forgot to mention that.
Check that the computer you're looking to buy has a faster "8X" AGP slot rather than a "4X" like the sh!t we have in this god-forsaken company.
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